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I am considering getting a power meter, so I am evaluating my options. I have made a list with what the pros and cons are for me for the different ones I am aware of. They are all expensive, so I don't list that as a con for each one. PowerTap pros: a few models in different price ranges. cons: I'd like to use for trainig and racing, so 2 hubs would be expensive. SRM pros: allows any wheel cons: I like my 195mm cranks, the longest SRM is 180mm. Polar pros: bike spec independant, altitude measurement. cons: lots of wires, fiddly install, can't calibrate by standing on pedal, silly watch type head unit (why isn't it shaped like a bike computer?) So what should I get? I am leaning toward the Polar despite it's issues for the transportability. Suggestions? Joseph |
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Joseph wrote - I am considering getting a power meter, so I am evaluating my options. You could also consider the ergomo bottom bracket measuring device - see http://www.bicyclepowermeters.com/ My lbs guy told me - 1. The ergomo only measures power on one crank and interpolates what the power is on the other - the SRM 4 way system is more accurate in that regard. 2. After evaluating all the available power measurement systems the body responsible for training cyclists in New Zealand chose SRM - your budget may vary. 3. For a stationary ergo, you can get a much simpler and cheaper measurement of relative levels of power by recording cadence and resistance levels and watching if you can improve on either or both over time. If you were mathematically inclined you could probably calcualte the watts being produced in varying gears at varying cadences if you are into absolutes as opposed to relativities. 4. Likely that power sensors will evenutally be built into crankets over time ("The Next Big Must Have Thing") if they can get round the SRM patent or licence it cost effectively. 5. You may want to check how difficult the accompanying software is to use or interpret - the native powertap software is not so great - suggest look at something like http://www.cyclingpeakssoftware.com/index.html 6 You see a LOT of secondhand polar power measuring kits for sale in ebay etc - suspect they may not be universally loved. best, Andrew |
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Andrew Price wrote: Joseph wrote - I am considering getting a power meter, so I am evaluating my options. You could also consider the ergomo bottom bracket measuring device - see http://www.bicyclepowermeters.com/ That looks pretty nice. Suits my desire for equipment independence. My lbs guy told me - 1. The ergomo only measures power on one crank and interpolates what the power is on the other - the SRM 4 way system is more accurate in that regard. Do you know how it interpolates? Does it just guess? 2. After evaluating all the available power measurement systems the body responsible for training cyclists in New Zealand chose SRM - your budget may vary. If I were happy with cranks =180mm I'd go for the SRM too, I think. 3. For a stationary ergo, you can get a much simpler and cheaper measurement of relative levels of power by recording cadence and resistance levels and watching if you can improve on either or both over time. If you were mathematically inclined you could probably calcualte the watts being produced in varying gears at varying cadences if you are into absolutes as opposed to relativities. I am most interested in maintaining a given output while riding. Testing on a resistance trainer can be fun, but it's not really what I am looking for. 4. Likely that power sensors will evenutally be built into crankets over time ("The Next Big Must Have Thing") if they can get round the SRM patent or licence it cost effectively. 5. You may want to check how difficult the accompanying software is to use or interpret - the native powertap software is not so great - suggest look at something like http://www.cyclingpeakssoftware.com/index.html 6 You see a LOT of secondhand polar power measuring kits for sale in ebay etc - suspect they may not be universally loved. This is true. I think the finicky-ness of the Polar is too much for me. The whole issue of variation from gear to gear sounds like a problem I don't want to deal with. Thanks for the tip about the Ergomo. Now I just need to find an extra $600... Joseph |
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Chalo wrote: wrote: PowerTap pros: a few models in different price ranges. cons: I'd like to use for trainig and racing, so 2 hubs would be expensive. Why not one PowerTap wheel for both, and a normal wheel as a backup? Chalo That's an idea. I am starting to lean that way. The power measurment is mostly for racing and TT's. I'm not really sure how I would incorporate power training into my program anyway, other than occasional spot checks and position/equipment testing which could be done on race wheels. I wish the PowerTap had an altimeter! Joseph |
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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote: wrote: Hi, I am considering getting a power meter, so I am evaluating my options. I have made a list with what the pros and cons are for me for the different ones I am aware of. They are all expensive, so I don't list that as a con for each one. PowerTap pros: a few models in different price ranges. cons: I'd like to use for trainig and racing, so 2 hubs would be expensive. Have a wheelbuilder make the wheel a good one to do both. The hubs are so heavy, making a 'race' wheel doesn't make sense. Altho all power meters have the good and others, Powertap seems the best for the $. Polar is very unreliable. Ergamo is another option. A BB based system. They say they have improved the BB but the one I installed had the BB bearings go south in about 2 weeks. My "race" wheel is going to be a Zipp 404 that I don't want to get chewed up riding in the rain, sand, etc of lots of everyday rides. I'm leaning toward just having the Zipp with a PowerTap and normal training/every-day wheels. Joseph |
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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote: wrote: Hi, I am considering getting a power meter, so I am evaluating my options. I have made a list with what the pros and cons are for me for the different ones I am aware of. They are all expensive, so I don't list that as a con for each one. PowerTap pros: a few models in different price ranges. cons: I'd like to use for trainig and racing, so 2 hubs would be expensive. Have a wheelbuilder make the wheel a good one to do both. The hubs are so heavy, making a 'race' wheel doesn't make sense. Altho all power meters have the good and others, Powertap seems the best for the $. Polar is very unreliable. Ergamo is another option. A BB based system. They say they have improved the BB but the one I installed had the BB bearings go south in about 2 weeks. My "race" wheel is going to be a Zipp 404 that I don't want to get chewed up riding in the rain, sand, etc of lots of everyday rides. I'm leaning toward just having the Zipp with a PowerTap and normal training/every-day wheels. Joseph You surely know what works for you, but: if you get a race-only wheel with a power meter, as soon as you realize that training with power is great, you would also realize that you cannot/don't want to use your nice wheel on training, except maybe when the weather and the road is perfect. The big question is: do you get a bigger benefit from a nice race-only wheel or from a power meter available all the time? (If you have the $$$ for two power taps or an srm+a zipp, then no problem). I know what I would answer, but it's just me. Francesco |
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