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Hi all: Since I've been into bent riding, I've experienced some knee
pain. I've purchased pedal extensions which seem to help the problem, I have set my pedaling length setting so that my leg is fully extended when my heel touches the pedal. When the middle of my foot is in contact, I have a slight bend at the knee. I ride with clip-in shoes/pedals. Has anyone experienced knee knee problems? Does this new ROTOR SYSTEM offer any answers to knee issues for bent riders? A very pricey system, but may be worth it if it will allow me to continue in the sport.... assuming it works. Thanks |
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"RW" wrote in message ... Hi all: Since I've been into bent riding, I've experienced some knee pain. I've purchased pedal extensions which seem to help the problem, I have set my pedaling length setting so that my leg is fully extended when my heel touches the pedal. When the middle of my foot is in contact, I have a slight bend at the knee. I ride with clip-in shoes/pedals. Has anyone experienced knee knee problems? Does this new ROTOR SYSTEM offer any answers to knee issues for bent riders? A very pricey system, but may be worth it if it will allow me to continue in the sport.... assuming it works. Thanks Saw two guys with Rotors at BROL last weekend, they loved em |
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What are PowerGrips?
I gave up on pedal systems and just stick with good old toe clips but I'd enjoy learning about anything that improves my riding. Jeff "Mike Rice" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:36:23 -0400, RW wrote: Hi all: Since I've been into bent riding, I've experienced some knee pain. I've purchased pedal extensions which seem to help the problem, I have set my pedaling length setting so that my leg is fully extended when my heel touches the pedal. When the middle of my foot is in contact, I have a slight bend at the knee. I ride with clip-in shoes/pedals. Has anyone experienced knee knee problems? Does this new ROTOR SYSTEM offer any answers to knee issues for bent riders? A very pricey system, but may be worth it if it will allow me to continue in the sport.... assuming it works. Thanks I'm not familiar with the ROTOR SYSTEM, but I thought that my SPD style clips were causing a little knee discomfort. It troubled me enought that I went to PowerGrips for the 230 mile local tour I did last week. For me the problem seems to be not enough float witht the particular system I was using. ALso I'm not keen on needing special shoes for my riding. Wearing a size 14 shoe I found toe clips to be too short for me to get far enough into. The PowerGrips seems a workable compromise for me, no more knee pain at least. Indiana Mike |
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Mike Rice wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:03:28 -0400, "Jeff Grippe" wrote: What are PowerGrips? I gave up on pedal systems and just stick with good old toe clips but I'd enjoy learning about anything that improves my riding. Jeff Excuse me, that should have read Power Grips. I always get confused as to whether it is one word or two, but a quick search corrects me every time. They are a strap system, attaching to the pedal on a diagonal. The fot enters from the outside and the straps tighten up as the foot assumes normal riding position. They can be ordered, I believe, from Bike Nashbar as well as other suppliers, maybe the good ol' LBS would have some in stock. For more info and a good picture go to: http://powergrips.com/ I would be happy with toe clips, but as I stated below my somewhat larger than average peds don't fit comfortably inside any I have found. The open strap of the Power Grips lets me ride comfortably. Mind you I have only one week's experience with the P G system, but I remember that nagging feeling that knees were about to ache. The one week with the PG's I rode two or three times ny normal (on the good days) distances with no nagging knees. Indiana Mike PS- I can't really say the Grips are an improvement over toe clips unless your feet are as long as mine. "Mike Rice" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:36:23 -0400, RW wrote: Hi all: Since I've been into bent riding, I've experienced some knee pain. I've purchased pedal extensions which seem to help the problem, I have set my pedaling length setting so that my leg is fully extended when my heel touches the pedal. When the middle of my foot is in contact, I have a slight bend at the knee. I ride with clip-in shoes/pedals. Has anyone experienced knee knee problems? Does this new ROTOR SYSTEM offer any answers to knee issues for bent riders? A very pricey system, but may be worth it if it will allow me to continue in the sport.... assuming it works. Thanks I'm not familiar with the ROTOR SYSTEM, but I thought that my SPD style clips were causing a little knee discomfort. It troubled me enought that I went to PowerGrips for the 230 mile local tour I did last week. For me the problem seems to be not enough float witht the particular system I was using. ALso I'm not keen on needing special shoes for my riding. Wearing a size 14 shoe I found toe clips to be too short for me to get far enough into. The PowerGrips seems a workable compromise for me, no more knee pain at least. Indiana Mike Dear Mike, If you have knee problems you might try Speedplay Frog pedals. They have a decent size platform and a large amount of float. They are also easy to get in an out of. Expensive if you buy new but sometimes available used. John from Tucson |
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On 9 Sep 2005 10:11:13 -0700, "bent cybrarian"
wrote: Mike Rice wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:03:28 -0400, "Jeff Grippe" wrote: What are PowerGrips? I gave up on pedal systems and just stick with good old toe clips but I'd enjoy learning about anything that improves my riding. Jeff Excuse me, that should have read Power Grips. I always get confused as to whether it is one word or two, but a quick search corrects me every time. They are a strap system, attaching to the pedal on a diagonal. The fot enters from the outside and the straps tighten up as the foot assumes normal riding position. They can be ordered, I believe, from Bike Nashbar as well as other suppliers, maybe the good ol' LBS would have some in stock. For more info and a good picture go to: http://powergrips.com/ I would be happy with toe clips, but as I stated below my somewhat larger than average peds don't fit comfortably inside any I have found. The open strap of the Power Grips lets me ride comfortably. Mind you I have only one week's experience with the P G system, but I remember that nagging feeling that knees were about to ache. The one week with the PG's I rode two or three times ny normal (on the good days) distances with no nagging knees. Indiana Mike PS- I can't really say the Grips are an improvement over toe clips unless your feet are as long as mine. "Mike Rice" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:36:23 -0400, RW wrote: Hi all: Since I've been into bent riding, I've experienced some knee pain. I've purchased pedal extensions which seem to help the problem, I have set my pedaling length setting so that my leg is fully extended when my heel touches the pedal. When the middle of my foot is in contact, I have a slight bend at the knee. I ride with clip-in shoes/pedals. Has anyone experienced knee knee problems? Does this new ROTOR SYSTEM offer any answers to knee issues for bent riders? A very pricey system, but may be worth it if it will allow me to continue in the sport.... assuming it works. Thanks I'm not familiar with the ROTOR SYSTEM, but I thought that my SPD style clips were causing a little knee discomfort. It troubled me enought that I went to PowerGrips for the 230 mile local tour I did last week. For me the problem seems to be not enough float witht the particular system I was using. ALso I'm not keen on needing special shoes for my riding. Wearing a size 14 shoe I found toe clips to be too short for me to get far enough into. The PowerGrips seems a workable compromise for me, no more knee pain at least. Indiana Mike Dear Mike, If you have knee problems you might try Speedplay Frog pedals. They have a decent size platform and a large amount of float. They are also easy to get in an out of. Expensive if you buy new but sometimes available used. John from Tucson John: Thanks for the tips. Can you explain the idea of lateral 'float' ? How does this help knee pain? How does knee pain in bent riding come about, and what are the different ways to try to eliminate knee pain? Only my left knee gives me problems, and it's on the medial aspect of the knee. I currently ride with Shimano SPD shoes/pedals. I found that my left foot was slightly toe in/ heel out. I changed the cleat setting to straighten this out, so we'll see if that might have been the culprit. I also purchased 30mm pedal extensions, and I think that has helped. Would I be better off with these Speedplay Frog pedals?? Can the pedals be used with SPD shoes? If so, can you walk on them without problems? My current setup walks nicely, but I find them a bear to lock in at times. I have shimano pedals with a cleat on one side and a 'normal' pedal on the other face. I'll bet you can tell I'm a beginner at bike vernacular I've been riding quite a lot this season, and I'd hate to be unwittingly injuring my knee needlessly, for lack of good information. RON W |
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On 9 Sep 2005 10:11:13 -0700, "bent cybrarian"
wrote: Mike Rice wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:03:28 -0400, "Jeff Grippe" wrote: What are PowerGrips? I gave up on pedal systems and just stick with good old toe clips but I'd enjoy learning about anything that improves my riding. Jeff Excuse me, that should have read Power Grips. I always get confused as to whether it is one word or two, but a quick search corrects me every time. They are a strap system, attaching to the pedal on a diagonal. The fot enters from the outside and the straps tighten up as the foot assumes normal riding position. They can be ordered, I believe, from Bike Nashbar as well as other suppliers, maybe the good ol' LBS would have some in stock. For more info and a good picture go to: http://powergrips.com/ I would be happy with toe clips, but as I stated below my somewhat larger than average peds don't fit comfortably inside any I have found. The open strap of the Power Grips lets me ride comfortably. Mind you I have only one week's experience with the P G system, but I remember that nagging feeling that knees were about to ache. The one week with the PG's I rode two or three times ny normal (on the good days) distances with no nagging knees. Indiana Mike PS- I can't really say the Grips are an improvement over toe clips unless your feet are as long as mine. "Mike Rice" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:36:23 -0400, RW wrote: Hi all: Since I've been into bent riding, I've experienced some knee pain. I've purchased pedal extensions which seem to help the problem, I have set my pedaling length setting so that my leg is fully extended when my heel touches the pedal. When the middle of my foot is in contact, I have a slight bend at the knee. I ride with clip-in shoes/pedals. Has anyone experienced knee knee problems? Does this new ROTOR SYSTEM offer any answers to knee issues for bent riders? A very pricey system, but may be worth it if it will allow me to continue in the sport.... assuming it works. Thanks I'm not familiar with the ROTOR SYSTEM, but I thought that my SPD style clips were causing a little knee discomfort. It troubled me enought that I went to PowerGrips for the 230 mile local tour I did last week. For me the problem seems to be not enough float witht the particular system I was using. ALso I'm not keen on needing special shoes for my riding. Wearing a size 14 shoe I found toe clips to be too short for me to get far enough into. The PowerGrips seems a workable compromise for me, no more knee pain at least. Indiana Mike Dear Mike, If you have knee problems you might try Speedplay Frog pedals. They have a decent size platform and a large amount of float. They are also easy to get in an out of. Expensive if you buy new but sometimes available used. John from Tucson John: Thanks for the tips. Can you explain the idea of lateral 'float' ? How does this help knee pain? How does knee pain in bent riding come about, and what are the different ways to try to eliminate knee pain? Only my left knee gives me problems, and it's on the medial aspect of the knee. I currently ride with Shimano SPD shoes/pedals. I found that my left foot was slightly toe in/ heel out. I changed the cleat setting to straighten this out, so we'll see if that might have been the culprit. I also purchased 30mm pedal extensions, and I think that has helped. Would I be better off with these Speedplay Frog pedals?? Can the pedals be used with SPD shoes? If so, can you walk on them without problems? My current setup walks nicely, but I find them a bear to lock in at times. I have shimano pedals with a cleat on one side and a 'normal' pedal on the other face. I'll bet you can tell I'm a beginner at bike vernacular I've been riding quite a lot this season, and I'd hate to be unwittingly injuring my knee needlessly, for lack of good information. RON W |
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RW wrote: On 9 Sep 2005 10:11:13 -0700, "bent cybrarian" wrote: Mike Rice wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:03:28 -0400, "Jeff Grippe" wrote: What are PowerGrips? I gave up on pedal systems and just stick with good old toe clips but I'd enjoy learning about anything that improves my riding. Jeff Excuse me, that should have read Power Grips. I always get confused as to whether it is one word or two, but a quick search corrects me every time. They are a strap system, attaching to the pedal on a diagonal. The fot enters from the outside and the straps tighten up as the foot assumes normal riding position. They can be ordered, I believe, from Bike Nashbar as well as other suppliers, maybe the good ol' LBS would have some in stock. For more info and a good picture go to: http://powergrips.com/ I would be happy with toe clips, but as I stated below my somewhat larger than average peds don't fit comfortably inside any I have found. The open strap of the Power Grips lets me ride comfortably. Mind you I have only one week's experience with the P G system, but I remember that nagging feeling that knees were about to ache. The one week with the PG's I rode two or three times ny normal (on the good days) distances with no nagging knees. Indiana Mike PS- I can't really say the Grips are an improvement over toe clips unless your feet are as long as mine. "Mike Rice" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:36:23 -0400, RW wrote: Hi all: Since I've been into bent riding, I've experienced some knee pain. I've purchased pedal extensions which seem to help the problem, I have set my pedaling length setting so that my leg is fully extended when my heel touches the pedal. When the middle of my foot is in contact, I have a slight bend at the knee. I ride with clip-in shoes/pedals. Has anyone experienced knee knee problems? Does this new ROTOR SYSTEM offer any answers to knee issues for bent riders? A very pricey system, but may be worth it if it will allow me to continue in the sport.... assuming it works. Thanks I'm not familiar with the ROTOR SYSTEM, but I thought that my SPD style clips were causing a little knee discomfort. It troubled me enought that I went to PowerGrips for the 230 mile local tour I did last week. For me the problem seems to be not enough float witht the particular system I was using. ALso I'm not keen on needing special shoes for my riding. Wearing a size 14 shoe I found toe clips to be too short for me to get far enough into. The PowerGrips seems a workable compromise for me, no more knee pain at least. Indiana Mike Dear Mike, If you have knee problems you might try Speedplay Frog pedals. They have a decent size platform and a large amount of float. They are also easy to get in an out of. Expensive if you buy new but sometimes available used. John from Tucson John: Thanks for the tips. Can you explain the idea of lateral 'float' ? How does this help knee pain? How does knee pain in bent riding come about, and what are the different ways to try to eliminate knee pain? Only my left knee gives me problems, and it's on the medial aspect of the knee. I currently ride with Shimano SPD shoes/pedals. I found that my left foot was slightly toe in/ heel out. I changed the cleat setting to straighten this out, so we'll see if that might have been the culprit. I also purchased 30mm pedal extensions, and I think that has helped. Would I be better off with these Speedplay Frog pedals?? Can the pedals be used with SPD shoes? If so, can you walk on them without problems? My current setup walks nicely, but I find them a bear to lock in at times. I have shimano pedals with a cleat on one side and a 'normal' pedal on the other face. I'll bet you can tell I'm a beginner at bike vernacular I've been riding quite a lot this season, and I'd hate to be unwittingly injuring my knee needlessly, for lack of good information. RON W Ron, The Frogs let you keep your knees in the position they fall into naturally. Unless your feet point directly in front of you and stay parallel when you walk putting on toe clips or using cleats set to keep your feet parallel to the bike can cause knee pain. In my experience this side loading as I call it causes irritation and pain in knee. Using the Frogs coupled with spinning at 80+ cadence I haven't had problems for years. And yes many spd shoes can use frogs with an adapter. I use cheap Carnac touring shoes and can walk much better than using my old Look road pedals/shoes. 'John |
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I looked at the Frogs. One of the things that I didn't like (which is
something I don't like about all of the pedal systems) is the small surface area where foot meets pedal. Has anyone ever come up with a locking system that has a larger surface are for foot and pedal? I imagine that such a thing would be difficult to get out of. Jeff "bent cybrarian" wrote in message oups.com... RW wrote: On 9 Sep 2005 10:11:13 -0700, "bent cybrarian" wrote: Mike Rice wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:03:28 -0400, "Jeff Grippe" wrote: What are PowerGrips? I gave up on pedal systems and just stick with good old toe clips but I'd enjoy learning about anything that improves my riding. Jeff Excuse me, that should have read Power Grips. I always get confused as to whether it is one word or two, but a quick search corrects me every time. They are a strap system, attaching to the pedal on a diagonal. The fot enters from the outside and the straps tighten up as the foot assumes normal riding position. They can be ordered, I believe, from Bike Nashbar as well as other suppliers, maybe the good ol' LBS would have some in stock. For more info and a good picture go to: http://powergrips.com/ I would be happy with toe clips, but as I stated below my somewhat larger than average peds don't fit comfortably inside any I have found. The open strap of the Power Grips lets me ride comfortably. Mind you I have only one week's experience with the P G system, but I remember that nagging feeling that knees were about to ache. The one week with the PG's I rode two or three times ny normal (on the good days) distances with no nagging knees. Indiana Mike PS- I can't really say the Grips are an improvement over toe clips unless your feet are as long as mine. "Mike Rice" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:36:23 -0400, RW wrote: Hi all: Since I've been into bent riding, I've experienced some knee pain. I've purchased pedal extensions which seem to help the problem, I have set my pedaling length setting so that my leg is fully extended when my heel touches the pedal. When the middle of my foot is in contact, I have a slight bend at the knee. I ride with clip-in shoes/pedals. Has anyone experienced knee knee problems? Does this new ROTOR SYSTEM offer any answers to knee issues for bent riders? A very pricey system, but may be worth it if it will allow me to continue in the sport.... assuming it works. Thanks I'm not familiar with the ROTOR SYSTEM, but I thought that my SPD style clips were causing a little knee discomfort. It troubled me enought that I went to PowerGrips for the 230 mile local tour I did last week. For me the problem seems to be not enough float witht the particular system I was using. ALso I'm not keen on needing special shoes for my riding. Wearing a size 14 shoe I found toe clips to be too short for me to get far enough into. The PowerGrips seems a workable compromise for me, no more knee pain at least. Indiana Mike Dear Mike, If you have knee problems you might try Speedplay Frog pedals. They have a decent size platform and a large amount of float. They are also easy to get in an out of. Expensive if you buy new but sometimes available used. John from Tucson John: Thanks for the tips. Can you explain the idea of lateral 'float' ? How does this help knee pain? How does knee pain in bent riding come about, and what are the different ways to try to eliminate knee pain? Only my left knee gives me problems, and it's on the medial aspect of the knee. I currently ride with Shimano SPD shoes/pedals. I found that my left foot was slightly toe in/ heel out. I changed the cleat setting to straighten this out, so we'll see if that might have been the culprit. I also purchased 30mm pedal extensions, and I think that has helped. Would I be better off with these Speedplay Frog pedals?? Can the pedals be used with SPD shoes? If so, can you walk on them without problems? My current setup walks nicely, but I find them a bear to lock in at times. I have shimano pedals with a cleat on one side and a 'normal' pedal on the other face. I'll bet you can tell I'm a beginner at bike vernacular I've been riding quite a lot this season, and I'd hate to be unwittingly injuring my knee needlessly, for lack of good information. RON W Ron, The Frogs let you keep your knees in the position they fall into naturally. Unless your feet point directly in front of you and stay parallel when you walk putting on toe clips or using cleats set to keep your feet parallel to the bike can cause knee pain. In my experience this side loading as I call it causes irritation and pain in knee. Using the Frogs coupled with spinning at 80+ cadence I haven't had problems for years. And yes many spd shoes can use frogs with an adapter. I use cheap Carnac touring shoes and can walk much better than using my old Look road pedals/shoes. 'John |
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Jeff Grippe wrote:
I looked at the Frogs. One of the things that I didn't like (which is something I don't like about all of the pedal systems) is the small surface area where foot meets pedal. Has anyone ever come up with a locking system that has a larger surface are for foot and pedal? I imagine that such a thing would be difficult to get out of. Jeff Jeff, Have you looked at the Mallet pedals from Crank Brothers? I haven't used them myself; I use the smaller Candy version on my bike. However, the Mallets look like they'd provide a fairly large contact area for the foot. I went with the Candy pedals instead of the more traditional Eggbeaters for the same reason; I like having a larger platform, so I can pedal fairly readily even when not clipped in. Best, Dan |
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Also look at the BeBop pedals. These have a larger platform than the
Frogs, have great float, are very light, and I love them. Have used the Frogs before but one of the cleats broke while on tour and the pedals were then useless. Peter |
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