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Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/12/2015 3:48 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:


A few years ago a number of bicyclist in a group ride on Victoria
Island (iirc) got very sick and had to go to hospital because they
rode through some water that'd come from a farm. The spray onto their
water bottles carried the bacteria (E-coli iirc) into their bodies
when they drank the water.

Wow. Good reason to use fenders.

When my wife, daughter and I did a bike tour of Ireland, we were in
Killarney, cruising around the national park. There were plenty of sheep
about, plus horse-drawn carriage rides for the tourists. And it was
raining. (Of _course_ it was raining! It was Ireland!)

Anyway, the various animal droppings plus the rain covered the roads in a
rich organic soup. We were _really_ glad we had fenders.



I really like the Powerade bottles that they sell in Canada. There's a top
cap that flips on and off, which covers the "nipple". Very efficient at
keeping road crud away from your lips.

PS: The stuff that comes stock inside the bottle is swill. I pour it down
the sink and then refill the bottle with water and go ride.

Frank ? try rehab

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 7:22:11 PM UTC-4, James wrote:
On 13/04/15 08:33, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/12/2015 3:48 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:


A few years ago a number of bicyclist in a group ride on Victoria
Island (iirc) got very sick and had to go to hospital because they
rode through some water that'd come from a farm. The spray onto their
water bottles carried the bacteria (E-coli iirc) into their bodies
when they drank the water.

Wow. Good reason to use fenders.

Yes! DANGER! DANGER!

When my wife, daughter and I did a bike tour of Ireland, we were in
Killarney, cruising around the national park. There were plenty of
sheep about, plus horse-drawn carriage rides for the tourists. And it
was raining. (Of _course_ it was raining! It was Ireland!)

Anyway, the various animal droppings plus the rain covered the roads in
a rich organic soup. We were _really_ glad we had fenders.


It's only a matter of time before fenders (mud guards) are made
mandatory to protect us from bacteria getting to our drink bottles.

If just one life can be saved (insert wringing hands...)

I shudder to think of the bacteria that is probably alive and well in my
foam hat right now. I could die if I scratched my scalp and put my
helmet on!

--
JS

AUS helmet laws, again, are a politician's strawman on getting stuff done ina dangerous environment.

On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 09:22:06 +1000, James
wrote:

On 13/04/15 08:33, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/12/2015 3:48 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:


A few years ago a number of bicyclist in a group ride on Victoria
Island (iirc) got very sick and had to go to hospital because they
rode through some water that'd come from a farm. The spray onto their
water bottles carried the bacteria (E-coli iirc) into their bodies
when they drank the water.

Wow. Good reason to use fenders.

Yes! DANGER! DANGER!

When my wife, daughter and I did a bike tour of Ireland, we were in
Killarney, cruising around the national park. There were plenty of
sheep about, plus horse-drawn carriage rides for the tourists. And it
was raining. (Of _course_ it was raining! It was Ireland!)

Anyway, the various animal droppings plus the rain covered the roads in
a rich organic soup. We were _really_ glad we had fenders.


It's only a matter of time before fenders (mud guards) are made
mandatory to protect us from bacteria getting to our drink bottles.

If just one life can be saved (insert wringing hands...)

I shudder to think of the bacteria that is probably alive and well in my
foam hat right now. I could die if I scratched my scalp and put my
helmet on!

Apparently there are multitudes of bacteria already in the Human gut.
and E. coli is a consistent resident of the small intestine.

from:
http://www.livescience.com/3092-huma...a-thought.html
"In sheer numbers, the mammalian colon harbors one of the densest
microbial communities found on Earth. For every human cell in your
body, there are roughly 10 single-celled microbes, most of which live
in your digestive tract."
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 4/12/2015 9:06 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:


Apparently there are multitudes of bacteria already in the Human gut.
and E. coli is a consistent resident of the small intestine.

from:
http://www.livescience.com/3092-huma...a-thought.html
"In sheer numbers, the mammalian colon harbors one of the densest
microbial communities found on Earth. For every human cell in your
body, there are roughly 10 single-celled microbes, most of which live
in your digestive tract."

That seems to be a fact whose implications are still being deciphered by
the medical community. We're not just an animal; we're an ecosystem.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:55:15 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
On 4/12/2015 9:06 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:


Apparently there are multitudes of bacteria already in the Human gut.
and E. coli is a consistent resident of the small intestine.

from:
http://www.livescience.com/3092-huma...a-thought.html
"In sheer numbers, the mammalian colon harbors one of the densest
microbial communities found on Earth. For every human cell in your
body, there are roughly 10 single-celled microbes, most of which live
in your digestive tract."

That seems to be a fact whose implications are still being deciphered
by the medical community. We're not just an animal; we're an
ecosystem.

Indeed and that infrastructure seems to have a profound influence on our
individual functioning. There is some pretty preliminary research
linking gut flora problems with things like depression (as the primary
precursor molecule for serotonin is produced by bacteria in our guts,
for example) as well as less surprising illness like irritable bowel
syndrome, ulcerative colitis, C. difficile, etc. It may be possible to
prevent or treat a number of diseases through dealing with bowel
organisms. Preventing disease is most often the most cost effective
approach.

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 8:11:35 PM UTC-4, Ralph Barone wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/12/2015 3:48 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:


A few years ago a number of bicyclist in a group ride on Victoria
Island (iirc) got very sick and had to go to hospital because they
rode through some water that'd come from a farm. The spray onto their
water bottles carried the bacteria (E-coli iirc) into their bodies
when they drank the water.

Wow. Good reason to use fenders.

When my wife, daughter and I did a bike tour of Ireland, we were in
Killarney, cruising around the national park. There were plenty of sheep
about, plus horse-drawn carriage rides for the tourists. And it was
raining. (Of _course_ it was raining! It was Ireland!)

Anyway, the various animal droppings plus the rain covered the roads in a
rich organic soup. We were _really_ glad we had fenders.



I really like the Powerade bottles that they sell in Canada. There's a top
cap that flips on and off, which covers the "nipple". Very efficient at
keeping road crud away from your lips.

PS: The stuff that comes stock inside the bottle is swill. I pour it down
the sink and then refill the bottle with water and go ride.

I also buy Powerade for the bottles. I like that the flip cap has a flat spoy opposite the 'hinge' part. The Powerade itself isn't so great and often has a unpleasant after tast for me.

I just wish they hadn't changed the neck size of their smaller bottles because the caps from the big bottles used to fit tthe smaller ones but not any more.

Cheers

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 11:49:35 PM UTC-4, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:55:15 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
On 4/12/2015 9:06 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:


Apparently there are multitudes of bacteria already in the Human gut.
and E. coli is a consistent resident of the small intestine.

from:
http://www.livescience.com/3092-huma...a-thought.html
"In sheer numbers, the mammalian colon harbors one of the densest
microbial communities found on Earth. For every human cell in your
body, there are roughly 10 single-celled microbes, most of which live
in your digestive tract."

That seems to be a fact whose implications are still being deciphered
by the medical community. We're not just an animal; we're an
ecosystem.

Indeed and that infrastructure seems to have a profound influence on our
individual functioning. There is some pretty preliminary research
linking gut flora problems with things like depression (as the primary
precursor molecule for serotonin is produced by bacteria in our guts,
for example) as well as less surprising illness like irritable bowel
syndrome, ulcerative colitis, C. difficile, etc. It may be possible to
prevent or treat a number of diseases through dealing with bowel
organisms. Preventing disease is most often the most cost effective
approach.

Which is why it's sometimes advisable to have road rash cleaned out by a professional.

Cheers

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 7:41:35 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/12/2015 5:06 PM, Graham wrote:

To answer your direct question as to how some of us get into trouble
then it is because we train, we race, we push the envelope and when you
do that as several other posters have said "**** happens". Do not get me
wrong I have the greatest respect for all who ride a bike but I have the
utmost contempt for the likes of you who continually deride those who do
not conform to your view of what cycling is about.

If you want to show how wrong I am in deriding cyclists who don't
conform to my view of what cycling's about, you'd be better off doing it
in direct response to such a statement. As it is, it looks to me like
you're reacting to imaginary statements, or at least very poorly
remembered ones.

To explain: My own cycling has included lots of recreation riding (from
10 mph 5 mile rides with slow friends, to much longer and faster rides
with others); lots of commuting, often with built-in time trials, as in
"can I set a PR getting home today?"; lots of utility riding; attending
and leading countless club rides; mountain bike rides, both alone and
with club members; rides at statewide and national rallies; a little
road racing, quite a few time trials, many centuries and longer rides,
up to one double century; touring in something like a dozen countries,
including a 4000 mile unsupported coast-to-coast U.S. tour, self-guided.

So which style of riding am I missing? The falling part? Yes, we've
had at least one person posting here who said I don't know much about
bicycling because I don't crash enough - or words to that effect. If
that's your view of "what cycling is all about," I'll continue to skip it..

Regarding crashing, I'm not claiming that a cyclist can prevent
absolutely every crash. But (for one example) I do think "I didn't see
the gravel so I slid out on that turn" counts as a cyclist mistake, not
an act of God. Riding at 11 tenths, as they say, isn't admirable.

I've been on lots of rides where I saw other riders crash. The only
crash I recall that I think the rider couldn't have prevented was when
the front forks suddenly snapped off when the bike hit a minor bump.

--
- Frank Krygowski

For one example, I crashed in Hamilton, Ontario when I was riding abot 25mph westbound on king Street and some idiot on a bicycle zoomed out of a blind corner street that he was riding the wrong way on. There was no way to avoid hitting him.

Another example of an unavoidable crash was on a rail-trail when I swerved to miss some other idiot's dog that was off leash (dogs are supposed to be leashed there) and ran out of the woods and directly in front of me. I swerved to avoid hitting tthe dog because it was small and i thought i'd kill it if i hit it. Unfortunately me front wheel went onto the loose gravel at the edge of the rail-trail embankment and I went down hard.

Sometimes no matter how careful you are crap happens tthat results in a bicyclist crashing.

You're very fortunate Frank that it's never happened to you.

Cheers

"Frank Krygowski" wrote in message ...
On 4/12/2015 5:06 PM, Graham wrote:

[snip]

If you want to show how wrong I am in deriding cyclists who don't
conform to my view of what cycling's about, you'd be better off doing it
in direct response to such a statement. As it is, it looks to me like
you're reacting to imaginary statements, or at least very poorly
remembered ones.

Come off it Frank this is just another one of your demeaning tactics. After all these years of posting here have not the reactions of a large cross section of responders to your comments got through to you. I have said this before, you seem to be insensitive to the tone of your posts. If you cannot or will not see it then so be it. I will leave it to others to form and/or voice their own opinions.

Graham.


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