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"And Popovych has gone POP." -- Paul Sherwen. -- Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-ewe dot flahute dot com [foreword] slash |
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On Jul 15, 11:17 am, "Steven L. Sheffield"
wrote: "And Popovych has gone POP." -- Paul Sherwen. I liked the commentary when Levi was coming back to the field after the bike change, with a _lot_ of help, Sherwen is commenting on how the push could lead to disqualification, then added that Discovery would argue that they were adjusting the seat height. Phil: "Yes, I'm sure that was it." |
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RicodJour wrote:
On Jul 15, 11:17 am, "Steven L. Sheffield" wrote: "And Popovych has gone POP." -- Paul Sherwen. I liked the commentary when Levi was coming back to the field after the bike change, with a _lot_ of help, Sherwen is commenting on how the push could lead to disqualification, then added that Discovery would argue that they were adjusting the seat height. Phil: "Yes, I'm sure that was it." It was funny and later on when they showed the replay he made the comment again about it was a "seat adjustment" and didn't mention it was cheating. |
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On Jul 15, 5:36 pm, Araxen wrote:
RicodJour wrote: On Jul 15, 11:17 am, "Steven L. Sheffield" wrote: "And Popovych has gone POP." -- Paul Sherwen. I liked the commentary when Levi was coming back to the field after the bike change, with a _lot_ of help, Sherwen is commenting on how the push could lead to disqualification, then added that Discovery would argue that they were adjusting the seat height. Phil: "Yes, I'm sure that was it." It was funny and later on when they showed the replay he made the comment again about it was a "seat adjustment" and didn't mention it was cheating. I liked the one where Phil said: "His confidence is bristling out of his crash helmet there." |
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On Jul 15, 5:36 pm, Araxen wrote:
RicodJour wrote: On Jul 15, 11:17 am, "Steven L. Sheffield" wrote: "And Popovych has gone POP." -- Paul Sherwen. I liked the commentary when Levi was coming back to the field after the bike change, with a _lot_ of help, Sherwen is commenting on how the push could lead to disqualification, then added that Discovery would argue that they were adjusting the seat height. Phil: "Yes, I'm sure that was it." It was funny and later on when they showed the replay he made the comment again about it was a "seat adjustment" and didn't mention it was cheating. Seems as though the commissaires realized that Levi's tow had been caught on camera, and with him in view and decided come action was necessary. Looks to me like Levi got off lightly, very lightly! I also have a strong feeling that those 10 seconds are not going to seem that important come Paris.... From http://www.velonews.com/tour2007/details/articles/12785.0.html The top American contender was fined 50 CHF and penalized 5 points and 10 seconds for the bidon pull and fined an additional 50 CHF for illegal mechanical assistance. Leipheimer couldn't care less about the money or the points, but those 10 seconds could be vital in the battle for the overall crown when every second counts. "My chain came off on the descent off the Roselend and got wrapped in the derailleur and I couldn't pedal for the last 5km of the descent," Leipheimer told a handful of journalists on Monday's rest day. "The car was too far behind for it to come up. When I got to the bottom, I switched to the spare bike, but I even had to change that." Leipheimer took a sling-shot off a bidon pass just as riders typically do when chasing back on through the team cars, something that the UCI seems to be cracking down on this year. Leipheimer hopes the time penalty doesn't become a factor later in the race. "It could make a difference, but if I hadn't gotten back, it would have made a bigger difference," he said. |
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"Michael." wrote: On Jul 15, 5:36 pm, Araxen wrote: RicodJour wrote: On Jul 15, 11:17 am, "Steven L. Sheffield" wrote: "And Popovych has gone POP." -- Paul Sherwen. I liked the commentary when Levi was coming back to the field after the bike change, with a _lot_ of help, Sherwen is commenting on how the push could lead to disqualification, then added that Discovery would argue that they were adjusting the seat height. Phil: "Yes, I'm sure that was it." It was funny and later on when they showed the replay he made the comment again about it was a "seat adjustment" and didn't mention it was cheating. Seems as though the commissaires realized that Levi's tow had been caught on camera, and with him in view and decided come action was necessary. Looks to me like Levi got off lightly, very lightly! I also have a strong feeling that those 10 seconds are not going to seem that important come Paris.... From http://www.velonews.com/tour2007/details/articles/12785.0.html The top American contender was fined 50 CHF and penalized 5 points and 10 seconds for the bidon pull and fined an additional 50 CHF for illegal mechanical assistance. Leipheimer couldn't care less about the money or the points, but those 10 seconds could be vital in the battle for the overall crown when every second counts. "My chain came off on the descent off the Roselend and got wrapped in the derailleur and I couldn't pedal for the last 5km of the descent," Leipheimer told a handful of journalists on Monday's rest day. "The car was too far behind for it to come up. When I got to the bottom, I switched to the spare bike, but I even had to change that." Leipheimer took a sling-shot off a bidon pass just as riders typically do when chasing back on through the team cars, something that the UCI seems to be cracking down on this year. Leipheimer hopes the time penalty doesn't become a factor later in the race. "It could make a difference, but if I hadn't gotten back, it would have made a bigger difference," he said. Rules are rules, but this seems like an appropriately-small penalty for a small bit of cheating. -- Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos |
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On Jul 17, 1:21 am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article om, "Michael." wrote: On Jul 15, 5:36 pm, Araxen wrote: RicodJour wrote: On Jul 15, 11:17 am, "Steven L. Sheffield" wrote: "And Popovych has gone POP." -- Paul Sherwen. I liked the commentary when Levi was coming back to the field after the bike change, with a _lot_ of help, Sherwen is commenting on how the push could lead to disqualification, then added that Discovery would argue that they were adjusting the seat height. Phil: "Yes, I'm sure that was it." It was funny and later on when they showed the replay he made the comment again about it was a "seat adjustment" and didn't mention it was cheating. Seems as though the commissaires realized that Levi's tow had been caught on camera, and with him in view and decided come action was necessary. Looks to me like Levi got off lightly, very lightly! I also have a strong feeling that those 10 seconds are not going to seem that important come Paris.... From http://www.velonews.com/tour2007/details/articles/12785.0.html The top American contender was fined 50 CHF and penalized 5 points and 10 seconds for the bidon pull and fined an additional 50 CHF for illegal mechanical assistance. Leipheimer couldn't care less about the money or the points, but those 10 seconds could be vital in the battle for the overall crown when every second counts. "My chain came off on the descent off the Roselend and got wrapped in the derailleur and I couldn't pedal for the last 5km of the descent," Leipheimer told a handful of journalists on Monday's rest day. "The car was too far behind for it to come up. When I got to the bottom, I switched to the spare bike, but I even had to change that." Leipheimer took a sling-shot off a bidon pass just as riders typically do when chasing back on through the team cars, something that the UCI seems to be cracking down on this year. Leipheimer hopes the time penalty doesn't become a factor later in the race. "It could make a difference, but if I hadn't gotten back, it would have made a bigger difference," he said. Rules are rules, but this seems like an appropriately-small penalty for a small bit of cheating. -- Ryan Cousineau / "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Phil just called Paul "Phil"! |
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On Jul 17, 1:21 am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article om, "Michael." wrote: On Jul 15, 5:36 pm, Araxen wrote: RicodJour wrote: On Jul 15, 11:17 am, "Steven L. Sheffield" wrote: "And Popovych has gone POP." -- Paul Sherwen. I liked the commentary when Levi was coming back to the field after the bike change, with a _lot_ of help, Sherwen is commenting on how the push could lead to disqualification, then added that Discovery would argue that they were adjusting the seat height. Phil: "Yes, I'm sure that was it." It was funny and later on when they showed the replay he made the comment again about it was a "seat adjustment" and didn't mention it was cheating. Seems as though the commissaires realized that Levi's tow had been caught on camera, and with him in view and decided come action was necessary. Looks to me like Levi got off lightly, very lightly! I also have a strong feeling that those 10 seconds are not going to seem that important come Paris.... From http://www.velonews.com/tour2007/details/articles/12785.0.html The top American contender was fined 50 CHF and penalized 5 points and 10 seconds for the bidon pull and fined an additional 50 CHF for illegal mechanical assistance. Leipheimer couldn't care less about the money or the points, but those 10 seconds could be vital in the battle for the overall crown when every second counts. "My chain came off on the descent off the Roselend and got wrapped in the derailleur and I couldn't pedal for the last 5km of the descent," Leipheimer told a handful of journalists on Monday's rest day. "The car was too far behind for it to come up. When I got to the bottom, I switched to the spare bike, but I even had to change that." Leipheimer took a sling-shot off a bidon pass just as riders typically do when chasing back on through the team cars, something that the UCI seems to be cracking down on this year. Leipheimer hopes the time penalty doesn't become a factor later in the race. "It could make a difference, but if I hadn't gotten back, it would have made a bigger difference," he said. Rules are rules, but this seems like an appropriately-small penalty for a small bit of cheating. -- Ryan Cousineau / "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You would be correct, however, if you watch the video from the stage you will see Levi getting literally pushed back to within sight of the peleton by a mechanic leaning out of the car window. Oh, and the mechanic was not even trying to pretend to be adjusting seat height etc. It was a blatant assist that lasted for several minutes. I did not see the bidon launch, but I assume that took place once he was in sight of the tail of the field. He was lucky. Michael. |
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In article . com,
"Michael." wrote: On Jul 17, 1:21 am, Ryan Cousineau wrote: In article om, "Michael." wrote: On Jul 15, 5:36 pm, Araxen wrote: RicodJour wrote: On Jul 15, 11:17 am, "Steven L. Sheffield" wrote: "And Popovych has gone POP." -- Paul Sherwen. I liked the commentary when Levi was coming back to the field after the bike change, with a _lot_ of help, Sherwen is commenting on how the push could lead to disqualification, then added that Discovery would argue that they were adjusting the seat height. Phil: "Yes, I'm sure that was it." It was funny and later on when they showed the replay he made the comment again about it was a "seat adjustment" and didn't mention it was cheating. Leipheimer took a sling-shot off a bidon pass just as riders typically do when chasing back on through the team cars, something that the UCI seems to be cracking down on this year. Leipheimer hopes the time penalty doesn't become a factor later in the race. "It could make a difference, but if I hadn't gotten back, it would have made a bigger difference," he said. Rules are rules, but this seems like an appropriately-small penalty for a small bit of cheating. You would be correct, however, if you watch the video from the stage you will see Levi getting literally pushed back to within sight of the peleton by a mechanic leaning out of the car window. Oh, and the mechanic was not even trying to pretend to be adjusting seat height etc. It was a blatant assist that lasted for several minutes. I did not see the bidon launch, but I assume that took place once he was in sight of the tail of the field. He was lucky. Oooh, that's bad form. Minutes long? For a GC contender? That is pushing it, both literally and figuratively. -- Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos |
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On Jul 17, 1:21 am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article om, "Michael." wrote: On Jul 15, 5:36 pm, Araxen wrote: RicodJour wrote: On Jul 15, 11:17 am, "Steven L. Sheffield" wrote: "And Popovych has gone POP." -- Paul Sherwen. I liked the commentary when Levi was coming back to the field after the bike change, with a _lot_ of help, Sherwen is commenting on how the push could lead to disqualification, then added that Discovery would argue that they were adjusting the seat height. Phil: "Yes, I'm sure that was it." It was funny and later on when they showed the replay he made the comment again about it was a "seat adjustment" and didn't mention it was cheating. Seems as though the commissaires realized that Levi's tow had been caught on camera, and with him in view and decided come action was necessary. Looks to me like Levi got off lightly, very lightly! I also have a strong feeling that those 10 seconds are not going to seem that important come Paris.... From http://www.velonews.com/tour2007/details/articles/12785.0.html The top American contender was fined 50 CHF and penalized 5 points and 10 seconds for the bidon pull and fined an additional 50 CHF for illegal mechanical assistance. Leipheimer couldn't care less about the money or the points, but those 10 seconds could be vital in the battle for the overall crown when every second counts. "My chain came off on the descent off the Roselend and got wrapped in the derailleur and I couldn't pedal for the last 5km of the descent," Leipheimer told a handful of journalists on Monday's rest day. "The car was too far behind for it to come up. When I got to the bottom, I switched to the spare bike, but I even had to change that." Leipheimer took a sling-shot off a bidon pass just as riders typically do when chasing back on through the team cars, something that the UCI seems to be cracking down on this year. Leipheimer hopes the time penalty doesn't become a factor later in the race. "It could make a difference, but if I hadn't gotten back, it would have made a bigger difference," he said. Rules are rules, but this seems like an appropriately-small penalty for a small bit of cheating. If you watch the video you will see that Levi was literally pushed back to the peleton by a mechanic hanging out of the team car. There was not even a half hearted attempt to make it look like seat adjustment, it was that blatant. It was only when the tail of the peleton came into view that they eased up. I didn't see it, but I guess it was the bidon fling that got him from the car to the back of the group, but it was clearly a blatant push the car that got him within sling shot distance. This was what (I assume) the original post was referring to... Levi was lucky, or the referee was smart to not lose high profile rider over what started out as a stuck chain... -- Ryan Cousineau / "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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