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Kryptonite Locks safe?
Hi,
a friend told me that all these bicycle locks that have these round or tubular keys are not safe because they were easy to open with so-called "picktools". he also told me that there are newer locks with a "ace-2" lock or something which are safer. The question is: does all that only regard cheap noname-locks or even brand-name locks like kryptonite? I am asking because I have 3 kryptonite locks in use, one EvoLite (4 years old), one New York Chain (2 years old) and a quite old kryptonite I don't know the exact name, should be about 10 years old. Do at least the newer ones feature this "ace-2" lock or do I have to replace them all? Thank you for your advice, Thomas |
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On 2004-06-22, Thomas Schmidt penned:
Hi, a friend told me that all these bicycle locks that have these round or tubular keys are not safe because they were easy to open with so-called "picktools". he also told me that there are newer locks with a "ace-2" lock or something which are safer. The question is: does all that only regard cheap noname-locks or even brand-name locks like kryptonite? I am asking because I have 3 kryptonite locks in use, one EvoLite (4 years old), one New York Chain (2 years old) and a quite old kryptonite I don't know the exact name, should be about 10 years old. Do at least the newer ones feature this "ace-2" lock or do I have to replace them all? My advice: If a thief wants your bike, no lock will stop them. I've had friends return to their cars only to find that part of the rack has been sawed off to remove the bike. Any lock can be picked or frozen/shattered. If you really, really don't want your bike stolen, don't leave it unattended. And for god's sake, make sure you have renter's or homeowner's insurance! It covers the loss of bikes and such. -- monique |
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Any lock can be picked or frozen/shattered. If you really, really don't want your bike stolen, don't leave it unattended. Sorry, but this is useless blah blah. There is a difference if a lock has easy-to-pick cylinders or difficult-to-pick cylinders like the ace-2, and that is what I want to know. |
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Sorry, but this is useless blah blah. If good advice is useless "blah, blah, blah" then maybe you need to ask about this in alt.locksmithing instead. (Yes, it exists, as does alt.life.locksmithing) Steve "full of blah, blah, blah..." What Monique said was NOT good advice, it was useless because she did not answer my question and just wrote something general instead. |
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Thomas Schmidt says:
Sorry, but this is useless blah blah. If good advice is useless "blah, blah, blah" then maybe you need to ask about this in alt.locksmithing instead. (Yes, it exists, as does alt.life.locksmithing) Steve "full of blah, blah, blah..." |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:47:14 +0200, Thomas Schmidt wrote:
Sorry, but this is useless blah blah. There is a difference if a lock has easy-to-pick cylinders or difficult-to-pick cylinders like the ace-2, and that is what I want to know. Not really. No thief is going to take the time to pick a lock. A squirt of freon, a tap with a hammer, and he's got your bike. A lock will deter a casual thief, but a casual thief ain't gonna know how to pick a lock. Lock picking is an art, learned over time. Most bike thieves aren't too bright and don't want to learn - that's why they steal instead of working or going to school. Where I went to school, we had at least 2 organized gangs that stole bikes for a living. No one ever had a lock picked. Locks were forced, broken, cut, or - my fave - parking meter heads loosened so that the thieves could slide the meter head off, pick up the bike, lock and all, then replace the meter head. --Kamus --Kamus |
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"Thomas Schmidt" wrote in message ...
Hi, a friend told me that all these bicycle locks that have these round or tubular keys are not safe because they were easy to open with so-called "picktools". he also told me that there are newer locks with a "ace-2" lock or something which are safer. The question is: does all that only regard cheap noname-locks or even brand-name locks like kryptonite? I am asking because I have 3 kryptonite locks in use, one EvoLite (4 years old), one New York Chain (2 years old) and a quite old kryptonite I don't know the exact name, should be about 10 years old. Do at least the newer ones feature this "ace-2" lock or do I have to replace them all? The marketing dilweeds want you to replace ALL of your locks. If someone wants your bike, it doesn't matter what lock is on it. I've said it before and I'll say it again, keep your mountain bike indoors unless you are going to ride the trails. For putting around town, use a beater, aka "townie". Then if the townie gets stolen, you're not out of too much of your hard earned dough. Besides, most thieves will not bother with a townie. JD |
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On 2004-06-22, Thomas Schmidt penned:
What Monique said was NOT good advice, it was useless because she did not answer my question and just wrote something general instead. Of course, of course. You're absolutely right. I tried to help you with your real problem (not wanting to get your bike stolen) rather than with your perceived problem (telling the difference between locks). You're agonizing about the type of lock to put on your front door while your windows are all wide open. -- monique |
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"Thomas Schmidt" wrote in message ...
snip Do at least the newer ones feature this "ace-2" lock or do I have to replace them all? The marketing dilweeds want you to replace all of your locks every year. Keep your "expensive" mountain bike inside unless you are going to ride the dirt and buy a townie for putting around town. JD |
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Thomas Schmidt wrote:
Sorry, but this is useless blah blah. If good advice is useless "blah, blah, blah" then maybe you need to ask about this in alt.locksmithing instead. (Yes, it exists, as does alt.life.locksmithing) Steve "full of blah, blah, blah..." What Monique said was NOT good advice, it was useless because she did not answer my question and just wrote something general instead. OK, you forced me to re-read the thread. Her advice was spot-on, and you should thank her for taking the time to reply to you at all instead of deriding her comments. Reminds me of an idiot in wreck.misc who asked for excercise advice and reading recommendations, and then found fault with every single suggestion. Bill "go read lock reviews if you don't like it here" S. |
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