NYPD at August CM: Peeping Toms at Taxpayers' Expense

=v= Money nominally to fight terrorism: a gazillion dollars
for an infrared camera used from a gazillion-dollar helicopter
during last August's Critical Mass in NYC, and what do they
film? People making out on a rooftop:

http://wcbs.dayport.com/launcher/219...Category_ID=48

(This is from last night's TV news on Channel 2. Unfortunately
it pops up a window and uses Microsoft plugins.)
_Jym_

"Jym Dyer" wrote in message
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=v= Money nominally to fight terrorism: a gazillion dollars
for an infrared camera used from a gazillion-dollar helicopter
during last August's Critical Mass in NYC, and what do they
film? People making out on a rooftop:

http://wcbs.dayport.com/launcher/219...Category_ID=48

(This is from last night's TV news on Channel 2. Unfortunately
it pops up a window and uses Microsoft plugins.)
_Jym_


Seems like the cops both film, and infiltrate CM.

http://wcbs.dayport.com/launcher/219...Category_ID=48

=v= This is unfortunately a very Microsoft-centric video clip.
If you can't play it, there's at least a text transcript:

http://cbsnewyork.com/topstories/top...055153409.html

_Jym_

=v= The NYPD has finally responded to the story about them using
surveillance cameras to spy on lovemakers. Basically it's their
form letter press release, "We didn't do anything wrong. We
stand behind our peeping toms." Both videos available in links
from this page:

http://www.times-up.org/press_view.p...2_nypd_cameras

Alas, CBS2 is reliant on unfortunate technologies. I've had to
run this from MS Internet Explorer with popups totally enabled.
Yech.
_Jym_

=v= Last night's TV-2 story on the "NYPD Peeping Tom" video,
filmed from a helicopter during last August's Critical Mass in
NYC, revealed that a section of the tape was erased. The story
doesn't mention this, but the missing time coincides with the
(violent) arrests of Critical Mass riders on 2nd Avenue. It
also coincides with the couple having sex on the rooftop.

=v= This couple was in total darkness. The only way to peep on
them would be with a helicopter with an infra-red camera. This
is what "anti-terrorism" money is being used for.

=v= Links to all three TV-2 segments are on this site:

http://www.times-up.org/press_view.p...2_nypd_cameras

These are in Windows media streaming format, alas, and I've
only been able to view them in MS Internet Explorer (with popups
enabled). View 'em while they're still there.
_Jym_

"Jym Dyer" wrote in message
...
=v= Last night's TV-2 story on the "NYPD Peeping Tom" video,
filmed from a helicopter during last August's Critical Mass in
NYC, revealed that a section of the tape was erased. The story
doesn't mention this, but the missing time coincides with the
(violent) arrests of Critical Mass riders on 2nd Avenue. It
also coincides with the couple having sex on the rooftop.

=v= This couple was in total darkness. The only way to peep on
them would be with a helicopter with an infra-red camera. This
is what "anti-terrorism" money is being used for.

=v= Links to all three TV-2 segments are on this site:

http://www.times-up.org/press_view.p...2_nypd_cameras

These are in Windows media streaming format, alas, and I've
only been able to view them in MS Internet Explorer (with popups
enabled). View 'em while they're still there.
_Jym_


I heard stories of the cops infiltrating CM, but this is proof!

=v= Last night's TV-2 story on the "NYPD Peeping Tom" video,
filmed from a helicopter during last August's Critical Mass
in NYC, revealed that a section of the tape was erased. The
story doesn't mention this, but the missing time coincides
with the (violent) arrests of Critical Mass riders on 2nd
Avenue. It also coincides with the couple having sex on the
rooftop.

=v= I goofed when I wrote "erased." All we know is that the
tape entered into the public record as evidence does not include
footage from the time in question. They might've been filming
the couple having sex, or they might've been filming their own
brutal arrests on 2nd Ave but somehow thought this wasn't some
sort of evidence, or they might've just happened to choose that
time to take a coffee break. We really don't know. I regret
the error.
_Jym_

Ken [NY] wrote:
On 06 Mar 2005 21:21:40 -0800, Jym Dyer claims:

=v= Last night's TV-2 story on the "NYPD Peeping Tom" video,
filmed from a helicopter during last August's Critical Mass
in NYC, revealed that a section of the tape was erased. The
story doesn't mention this, but the missing time coincides
with the (violent) arrests of Critical Mass riders on 2nd
Avenue. It also coincides with the couple having sex on the
rooftop.

=v= I goofed when I wrote "erased." All we know is that the
tape entered into the public record as evidence does not include
footage from the time in question. They might've been filming
the couple having sex, or they might've been filming their own
brutal arrests on 2nd Ave but somehow thought this wasn't some
sort of evidence, or they might've just happened to choose that
time to take a coffee break. We really don't know. I regret
the error.
_Jym_

A chill just went down my back when I realized that you just
might actually think that anybody else in these newsgroups give a fig
about this subject. The fact that you are just about the only one
responding to yourself - besides me this time - should have been a
clue.

I'm interested. I think it's sick how much money the NYPD must
be spending in the name of cracking down on "dangerous" group
bicycle rides. We'd all be better off if they were to spend
that money where the real danger is, the everday "critical mass"
of motor vehicles.

I think it's another example of the behind-the-windshield
mentality that the police have that is probably not shared with
the non-driving majority in NYC.

--
Steven O'Neill

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 11:06:13 -0500, "Ken [NY]"
wrote:

On 06 Mar 2005 21:21:40 -0800, Jym Dyer claims:

=v= Last night's TV-2 story on the "NYPD Peeping Tom" video,
filmed from a helicopter during last August's Critical Mass
in NYC, revealed that a section of the tape was erased. The
story doesn't mention this, but the missing time coincides
with the (violent) arrests of Critical Mass riders on 2nd
Avenue. It also coincides with the couple having sex on the
rooftop.

=v= I goofed when I wrote "erased." All we know is that the
tape entered into the public record as evidence does not include
footage from the time in question. They might've been filming
the couple having sex, or they might've been filming their own
brutal arrests on 2nd Ave but somehow thought this wasn't some
sort of evidence, or they might've just happened to choose that
time to take a coffee break. We really don't know. I regret
the error.
_Jym_

A chill just went down my back when I realized that you just
might actually think that anybody else in these newsgroups give a fig
about this subject. The fact that you are just about the only one
responding to yourself - besides me this time - should have been a
clue.


Cordially,
Ken (NY)

I live in NYC and I care. Why don't you move on if you aren't
interested?

"Steven M. O'Neill" wrote in message
...
Ken [NY] wrote:
On 06 Mar 2005 21:21:40 -0800, Jym Dyer claims:

=v= Last night's TV-2 story on the "NYPD Peeping Tom" video,
filmed from a helicopter during last August's Critical Mass
in NYC, revealed that a section of the tape was erased. The
story doesn't mention this, but the missing time coincides
with the (violent) arrests of Critical Mass riders on 2nd
Avenue. It also coincides with the couple having sex on the
rooftop.

=v= I goofed when I wrote "erased." All we know is that the
tape entered into the public record as evidence does not include
footage from the time in question. They might've been filming
the couple having sex, or they might've been filming their own
brutal arrests on 2nd Ave but somehow thought this wasn't some
sort of evidence, or they might've just happened to choose that
time to take a coffee break. We really don't know. I regret
the error.
_Jym_

A chill just went down my back when I realized that you just
might actually think that anybody else in these newsgroups give a fig
about this subject. The fact that you are just about the only one
responding to yourself - besides me this time - should have been a
clue.

I'm interested. I think it's sick how much money the NYPD must
be spending in the name of cracking down on "dangerous" group
bicycle rides. We'd all be better off if they were to spend
that money where the real danger is, the everday "critical mass"
of motor vehicles.

I think it's another example of the behind-the-windshield
mentality that the police have that is probably not shared with
the non-driving majority in NYC.

--

I am sure they have infiltrated CM too, I have seen a few of the bicycle
riders seemed not to "fit in", and have been on several rides.