eggbeater problems

Ok. I buy the eggbeater 3 pedals a nice pedal, I have the lower model on my
other rode bike now. I like them no problems 3000 miles but installing this
egg 3 is different. Instead of the usual 9/16 thread and you tighten the
pedal it has a cap to tighten with an 8mm hex nut. It works fine for the
right-sided pedal but the left is crazy. Naturally you have reverse thread
on the left but tighten the hex nut on the inside cause it to loosen against
the spindle. Now I can get the pedal on and it works but you cannot get any
real pressure to at least near the torque specs. I realize this is the left
pedal so maybe it really does not matter but I am at total loss why they
make this so difficult. I manage to do a fret job and vintage Gibson L5
guitar today and that took less time to figure out than this simple pedal on
a bike.

I am I stupid or does this even make sense? Any help on those who might know
what I mean?

Deacon Mark Cleary
Epiphany Church

Deacon Mark Cleary
Epiphany Church
"Mark Cleary" wrote in message
...

Ok. I buy the eggbeater 3 pedals a nice pedal, I have the lower model on my
other rode bike now. I like them no problems 3000 miles but installing this
egg 3 is different. Instead of the usual 9/16 thread and you tighten the
pedal it has a cap to tighten with an 8mm hex nut. It works fine for the
right-sided pedal but the left is crazy. Naturally you have reverse thread
on the left but tighten the hex nut on the inside cause it to loosen against
the spindle. Now I can get the pedal on and it works but you cannot get any
real pressure to at least near the torque specs. I realize this is the left
pedal so maybe it really does not matter but I am at total loss why they
make this so difficult. I manage to do a fret job and vintage Gibson L5
guitar today and that took less time to figure out than this simple pedal on
a bike.

I am I stupid or does this even make sense? Any help on those who might know
what I mean?

Deacon Mark Cleary
Epiphany Church

What and idiot I am! Finally comes the dawn, I need to use the 8 mm allen
wrench from the other side of the pedal by the crank to tighten the puppy.
Never occurred to me to look at using the other side until I saw a diagram
on the web. You can have a good laugh on my stupidity. Hey I at least found
my own answer.

On Nov 5, 8:37*pm, "Mark Cleary" wrote:
Deacon Mark Cleary
Epiphany Church"Mark Cleary" *wrote in message

...

Ok. I buy the eggbeater 3 pedals a nice pedal, I have the lower model on my
other rode bike now. I like them no problems 3000 miles but installing this
egg 3 is different. Instead of the usual 9/16 thread and you tighten the
pedal it has a cap to tighten with an 8mm hex nut. It works fine for the
right-sided pedal but the left is crazy. Naturally you have reverse thread
on the left but tighten the hex nut on the inside cause it to loosen against
the spindle. Now I can get the pedal on and it works but you cannot get any
real pressure to at least near the torque specs. I realize this is the left
pedal so maybe it really does not matter but I am at total loss why they
make this so difficult. I manage to do a fret job and vintage Gibson L5
guitar today and that took less time to figure out than this simple pedal on
a bike.

I am I stupid or does this even make sense? Any help on those who might know
what I mean?

Deacon Mark Cleary
Epiphany Church

What and idiot I am! *Finally comes the dawn, I need to use the 8 mm allen
wrench from the other side of the pedal by the crank to tighten the puppy..
Never occurred to me to look at using the other side until I saw a diagram
on the web. You can have a good laugh on my stupidity. Hey I at least found
my own answer.

It happens to the best of us Mark. Try not to "fret" over it. Ride
happy!
Coz

On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 20:42:49 -0700 (PDT), TheCoz
wrote:

On Nov 5, 8:37*pm, "Mark Cleary" wrote:
Deacon Mark Cleary
Epiphany Church"Mark Cleary" *wrote in message

...

Ok. I buy the eggbeater 3 pedals a nice pedal, I have the lower model on my
other rode bike now. I like them no problems 3000 miles but installing this
egg 3 is different. Instead of the usual 9/16 thread and you tighten the
pedal it has a cap to tighten with an 8mm hex nut. It works fine for the
right-sided pedal but the left is crazy. Naturally you have reverse thread
on the left but tighten the hex nut on the inside cause it to loosen against
the spindle. Now I can get the pedal on and it works but you cannot get any
real pressure to at least near the torque specs. I realize this is the left
pedal so maybe it really does not matter but I am at total loss why they
make this so difficult. I manage to do a fret job and vintage Gibson L5
guitar today and that took less time to figure out than this simple pedal on
a bike.

I am I stupid or does this even make sense? Any help on those who might know
what I mean?

Deacon Mark Cleary
Epiphany Church

What and idiot I am! *Finally comes the dawn, I need to use the 8 mm allen
wrench from the other side of the pedal by the crank to tighten the puppy.
Never occurred to me to look at using the other side until I saw a diagram
on the web. You can have a good laugh on my stupidity. Hey I at least found
my own answer.

It happens to the best of us Mark. Try not to "fret" over it. Ride
happy!
Coz

Ha! I just installed a set of Shimano 520's using an allen wrench.
Felt pretty proud of my self..... until I happened to read the Shimano
technical sheet packed with the pedals and found a little note saying
that using an allen wrench does not provide sufficient torque and a
wrench must be used :-(

Cheers,

John B.
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

"John B." wrote in message
news
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 20:42:49 -0700 (PDT), TheCoz
wrote:

On Nov 5, 8:37 pm, "Mark Cleary" wrote:
Deacon Mark Cleary
Epiphany Church"Mark Cleary" wrote in message

...

Ok. I buy the eggbeater 3 pedals a nice pedal, I have the lower
model on my
other rode bike now. I like them no problems 3000 miles but
installing this
egg 3 is different. Instead of the usual 9/16 thread and you tighten
the
pedal it has a cap to tighten with an 8mm hex nut. It works fine for
the
right-sided pedal but the left is crazy. Naturally you have reverse
thread
on the left but tighten the hex nut on the inside cause it to loosen
against
the spindle. Now I can get the pedal on and it works but you cannot
get any
real pressure to at least near the torque specs. I realize this is
the left
pedal so maybe it really does not matter but I am at total loss why
they
make this so difficult. I manage to do a fret job and vintage Gibson
L5
guitar today and that took less time to figure out than this simple
pedal on
a bike.

I am I stupid or does this even make sense? Any help on those who
might know
what I mean?

Deacon Mark Cleary
Epiphany Church

What and idiot I am! Finally comes the dawn, I need to use the 8 mm
allen
wrench from the other side of the pedal by the crank to tighten the
puppy.
Never occurred to me to look at using the other side until I saw a
diagram
on the web. You can have a good laugh on my stupidity. Hey I at
least found
my own answer.

It happens to the best of us Mark. Try not to "fret" over it. Ride
happy!
Coz

Ha! I just installed a set of Shimano 520's using an allen wrench.
Felt pretty proud of my self..... until I happened to read the Shimano
technical sheet packed with the pedals and found a little note saying
that using an allen wrench does not provide sufficient torque and a
wrench must be used :-(

Cheers,

John B.
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

Big difference in torque supplied by a norma-length 6mm allen and a
longer 8mm designed for pedals. But you can get enough torque for the
6mm on the backside, if you use a cheater bar (hollow tube, something
like a seatpost but a bit smaller) for leverage. You're still fighting
the increased flex of a 6mm (vs 8mm) wrench, but you can certainly get
them tight enough that way.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 08:36:49 -0800, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:

"John B." wrote in message
news
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 20:42:49 -0700 (PDT), TheCoz
wrote:

On Nov 5, 8:37 pm, "Mark Cleary" wrote:
Deacon Mark Cleary
Epiphany Church"Mark Cleary" wrote in message

...

Ok. I buy the eggbeater 3 pedals a nice pedal, I have the lower
model on my
other rode bike now. I like them no problems 3000 miles but
installing this
egg 3 is different. Instead of the usual 9/16 thread and you tighten
the
pedal it has a cap to tighten with an 8mm hex nut. It works fine for
the
right-sided pedal but the left is crazy. Naturally you have reverse
thread
on the left but tighten the hex nut on the inside cause it to loosen
against
the spindle. Now I can get the pedal on and it works but you cannot
get any
real pressure to at least near the torque specs. I realize this is
the left
pedal so maybe it really does not matter but I am at total loss why
they
make this so difficult. I manage to do a fret job and vintage Gibson
L5
guitar today and that took less time to figure out than this simple
pedal on
a bike.

I am I stupid or does this even make sense? Any help on those who
might know
what I mean?

Deacon Mark Cleary
Epiphany Church

What and idiot I am! Finally comes the dawn, I need to use the 8 mm
allen
wrench from the other side of the pedal by the crank to tighten the
puppy.
Never occurred to me to look at using the other side until I saw a
diagram
on the web. You can have a good laugh on my stupidity. Hey I at
least found
my own answer.

It happens to the best of us Mark. Try not to "fret" over it. Ride
happy!
Coz

Ha! I just installed a set of Shimano 520's using an allen wrench.
Felt pretty proud of my self..... until I happened to read the Shimano
technical sheet packed with the pedals and found a little note saying
that using an allen wrench does not provide sufficient torque and a
wrench must be used :-(

Cheers,

John B.
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

Big difference in torque supplied by a norma-length 6mm allen and a
longer 8mm designed for pedals. But you can get enough torque for the
6mm on the backside, if you use a cheater bar (hollow tube, something
like a seatpost but a bit smaller) for leverage. You're still fighting
the increased flex of a 6mm (vs 8mm) wrench, but you can certainly get
them tight enough that way.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


I wasn't commenting on the possibility of getting the pedals tight
enough, but on the fact that Shimano mentions using a wrench in spite
of making the pedals with an allen wrench receptacle.

Cheers,

John B.
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

On Nov 7, 10:36*am, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:
"John B." wrote in message

news




On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 20:42:49 -0700 (PDT), TheCoz
wrote:

On Nov 5, 8:37 pm, "Mark Cleary" wrote:
Deacon Mark Cleary
Epiphany Church"Mark Cleary" wrote in message

...

Ok. I buy the eggbeater 3 pedals a nice pedal, I have the lower
model on my
other rode bike now. I like them no problems 3000 miles but
installing this
egg 3 is different. Instead of the usual 9/16 thread and you tighten
the
pedal it has a cap to tighten with an 8mm hex nut. It works fine for
the
right-sided pedal but the left is crazy. Naturally you have reverse
thread
on the left but tighten the hex nut on the inside cause it to loosen
against
the spindle. Now I can get the pedal on and it works but you cannot
get any
real pressure to at least near the torque specs. I realize this is
the left
pedal so maybe it really does not matter but I am at total loss why
they
make this so difficult. I manage to do a fret job and vintage Gibson
L5
guitar today and that took less time to figure out than this simple
pedal on
a bike.

I am I stupid or does this even make sense? Any help on those who
might know
what I mean?

Deacon Mark Cleary
Epiphany Church

What and idiot I am! Finally comes the dawn, I need to use the 8 mm
allen
wrench from the other side of the pedal by the crank to tighten the
puppy.
Never occurred to me to look at using the other side until I saw a
diagram
on the web. You can have a good laugh on my stupidity. Hey I at
least found
my own answer.

It happens to the best of us Mark. Try not to "fret" over it. Ride
happy!
Coz

Ha! I just installed a set of Shimano 520's using an allen wrench.
Felt pretty proud of my self..... until I happened to read the Shimano
technical sheet packed with the pedals and found a little note saying
that using an allen wrench does not provide sufficient torque and a
wrench must be used :-(

Cheers,

John B.
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

Big difference in torque supplied by a norma-length 6mm allen and a
longer 8mm designed for pedals. But you can get enough torque for the
6mm on the backside, if you use a cheater bar (hollow tube, something
like a seatpost but a bit smaller) for leverage. You're still fighting
the increased flex of a 6mm (vs 8mm) wrench, but you can certainly get
them tight enough that way.

Or use a torque wrench with a 3/8 x 8mm driver you can find at Auto
Zone, etc.
Leverage plus a "reading".
--D-y