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Old July 14th 05, 11:41 PM
Jay S. Hill
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wrote:
nonsense--rules specifically encouraging crashing had been
in force for over 90 years in the Tour de France.

Dear Señor Fogel;

A rule acknowledging that crashes might occur is not a rule that
encourages crashes. This murkily reminds me of the abortion debate.
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Old July 14th 05, 11:59 PM
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On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:41:37 GMT, "Jay S. Hill"
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wrote:
nonsense--rules specifically encouraging crashing had been
in force for over 90 years in the Tour de France.

Dear Señor Fogel;

A rule acknowledging that crashes might occur is not a rule that
encourages crashes. This murkily reminds me of the abortion debate.


Dear Jay,

Any economist would argue that a rule that removes the time
penalty for crashing in the last kilometer is encouraging
crashes in the last kilometer.

The law of supply and demand is not a question of morality,
nor is it murky.

Raise the cost of bicycle crashes in last kilometer of a
stage, and there will be fewer bicycle crashes. Lower the
cost, and there will be more.

Racers respond to market forces.

Carl Fogel
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Old July 15th 05, 12:39 AM
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gwhite wrote:
Good thing he was wearing a helmet.


Yes, but did he have two guns?
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Old July 15th 05, 12:42 AM
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B. Lafferty wrote:
"gym.gravity" wrote in message
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gwhite wrote:

Good thing he was wearing a helmet.


**** off!



I'll bet you **** with a helmet and heart rate monitor. Probably a good
thing, too.



Take it to alt.kink.bicycles
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Old July 15th 05, 12:46 AM
Fabrizio Mazzoleni
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"gwhite" wrote in message ...
Good thing he was wearing a helmet.


I don't know why he pulled out, I've landed on my head more
times than I can remember, and it's never kept me from climbing
back on the bike.


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Old July 15th 05, 01:21 AM
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"Ken Prager" wrote in message
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gwhite wrote:
Good thing he was wearing a helmet.


No, if he hadn't been wearing a helmet, he would've been more

careful
and wouldn't have crashed. Crashes were almost unheard of in
professional cycling before rules were introduced requiring

the use of
helmets.



Boy, talk about pulling something out of one's ass!


Like, does the name Casartelli ring a bell?

On the flip side, the recent death of a helmeted racer here in
Portland, Or. shows that a helmet is not a free pass to
immortality.
http://tinyurl.com/7pefv I raced that course for
years without so much as a close call. The finish is so wide and
the set-up is so long that there is rarely a mishap. This poor
guy just got in the wrong place and bit it going full blast with
a helmet on. -- Jay Beattie.


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Old July 15th 05, 02:04 AM
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Jay Beattie wrote:


... a helmet is not a free pass to
immortality.


I am selling tin foil hats though. Not free, but at an affordable cost.
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Old July 15th 05, 04:05 AM
Mike Latondresse
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"Fabrizio Mazzoleni" wrote in
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"gwhite" wrote in message
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Good thing he was wearing a helmet.


I don't know why he pulled out, I've landed on my head more
times than I can remember, and it's never kept me from climbing
back on the bike.

Mostly without a helmet obviously.
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Old July 15th 05, 04:17 AM
Callistus Valerius
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Good thing he was wearing a helmet.


I don't know why he pulled out, I've landed on my head more
times than I can remember, and it's never kept me from climbing
back on the bike.

I've gotten my bell rung more than a boxer, and it ain't fun. But one
time I did get back on the bike and rode to the hospital so they could take
care of a broken bone. The ride wasn't bad, but the service at the hospital
stunk. They wheeled me into flu ward, and I had to endure listening to all
of these slugs coughing and wheezing. What a bunch of babies. They all
thought they were gonna die. It was during a flu epidemic 5 years ago. I
can still hear them, " oh Doctor........please help ......me.....I
......can't ....cough breathe. I felt like slapping a couple of them, so
they could regain some dignity. If any place needed a suitcase of courage
it was that place.


 




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