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![]() Holy cow! I just joined this list and I can't believe the ****-COOL stuff you guys are doing! Gearing, shifting, building your own frames, seats rolling right on the wheel, the possibilities are ENDLESS! Besides the incredible moves now being performed (by amazingly talented riders) in freeriding and muni, what really intrigues me is the discussion around the gearing for high speed, and how unicycling may be at a crossroads. I want to propose an idea, a principle that might help. It seems that Q-factor is a limit for high-speed riding, even on a geared uni. What about counterweights? Would a flat counterweight to the mass of the pedal reduce or eliminate q-factor? Again, I'm a newby. Has this been discussed? See attachment... +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Attachment filename: uni-counter.gif | |Download attachment: http://www.unicyclist.com/attachment/324032| +----------------------------------------------------------------+ -- paul_g ------------------------------------------------------------------------ paul_g's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/10136 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/41090 |
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![]() I dunno about q factor... I thought it was the angle the cranks stuck out from the hub? That looks like it would do *something* to how riding worked, but I'm not sure what the affect would be. -- Fuego - Definetely no brain. "Unicycling is more about the center of concentration than the center of balance." -Me "Get off my Property before you sue me!" -Morons everywhere. 'OneWheelNinjaSquad' (http://gallery.unicyclist.com/OneWheelNinjaSquad) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fuego's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/6983 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/41090 |
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![]() Another Paul, Paul Royle ( i think) has already came up with this, its main application was for hocky, as the wheel tends to go much faster than normal playing hocky. it was meant to stop the wheel shake from the weight of the cranks and pedal. he only mentioned it to me once and i dont think hes posted about it, and im not sure if hes done anything about designing/making anything either, he might reply if he reads this thread, iain -- gingerfreek - unicyclist of mass destruction. I use my wheel as a weapon! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ gingerfreek's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/3507 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/41090 |
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![]() I have thought about counterweights, as you mentioned, many years ago. I think the theory will work. The downside, of course, is all the weight you'd have to add to the unicycle. I have always assumed the extra weight would more than cancel out any performance gains you'd get from a straighter line. -- johnfoss - More Moab Fun John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone "jfoss" at "unicycling.com" -- www.unicycling.com "Read the rules!" -- 'IUF Rulebook' (http://www.unicycling.org/iuf/rulebook/) -- 'USA Rulebook' (http://www.unicycling.org/usa/competition/) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ johnfoss's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/832 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/41090 |
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![]() johnfoss wrote: *The downside, of course, is all the weight you'd have to add to the unicycle. * The extra weight and something fairly massive swinging aroung to clip your ankle every once in a while. Ouch!! And Q-factor is the distance the pedals are from the centerline of the wheel. A wide hub and cranks that angle out from the hub equals a high Q-factor. Narrow hub and parallel cranks equals a low Q-factor. In theory the closer your feet are together (like when you're walking) the better. But, narrow hubs mean weaker wheels, so there's always a trade-off. Bicyclists are always looking for a low Q-factor for reduced knee and ankle stress. -- underdog - level 1 rider 'I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you different' - Kurt Vonnegut ------------------------------------------------------------------------ underdog's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/6197 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/41090 |
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![]() I was thinking of this the other day; this could be a cheap way to have more than one crank length on a single unicycle; have 125mm on one side and 170mm on the other (or whatever)! If you keep the Q-factor low it probably would be OK for leg clearance, and you could work it out so that when you're on the shorter side, at least, the weight of the pedal would more or less balance out the weight of the longer side of the crank. +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Attachment filename: counterweight.png | |Download attachment: http://www.unicyclist.com/attachment/325586| +----------------------------------------------------------------+ -- tholub - Kinetic Sculptor ------------------------------------------------------------------------ tholub's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/804 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/41090 |
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![]() Oh, I like this idea. Could this also be done with weights on the rim itself? That would stay out of the way no matter what. Plus then you could use those nice machines for car tires :-) -- shapr - 40 miles south of the Arctic Circle Add your knowledge to the 'Unicyclopedia' (http://www.unicyclopedia.org/) Brittanica ! Even if you're not British! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ shapr's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/7727 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/41090 |
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![]() I like the idea of having it on the rim, and with direct drive, there will always be alignment. But how can you get it to fit with the spokes? e39m5 -- e39m5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ e39m5's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/9836 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/41090 |
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![]() I believe the addition of an Escher Bracket to each crank could allow for an "adjustable-q-factor"... [image: http://scipp.ucsc.edu/~jheimann/assembly.gif] -- maestro8 - Mad Scientists for World Domination Those are my principles. If you don't like those, I have others. -- Groucho Marx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ maestro8's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/7871 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/41090 |
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![]() Id like to look at that diagram but its making me dizzy. I think you messed up drawing a line somewhere. e39m5 -- e39m5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ e39m5's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/9836 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/41090 |
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