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I have given myself two days to calm down about this, but now I have to
say it. Now, I hate dumb pedestrians as much as the next cyclist (note, "dumb" not "all" or even "ignorant" pedestrians) but what is with that hurry seen in the Coro Drive bike path users? Yep, peak hour, it's slow, pedestrians get in the way. Deal with it. You know you won't be able to stay at 30km/h the whole trip. Don't pretend otherwise. Don't duck through little itsy bitsy gaps. If a cyclist is sitting out from the edge a bit, don't immediately complain as you pass them, maybe they were trying to avoid the glass. If I'm overtaking a pedestrian so that my lane is temporarily blocked, and you're approaching from the opposite direction, it's probably smart to not cross to my side of the path. If I slow down until it's safe to pass a pedestrian, and I'm holding you up, TOO F'ING BAD! People who take risks like that are giving cyclists a bad name and putting us all in danger. If you nearly take someone out at high speed because they were walking too slow and blocking you, do you think they'll be patient next time they see a cyclist on the road? Do you think they'll make a conscious effort to give way? Doubt it. T not happy, also not hippy |
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Another one I hate is when there's a specially built shared cycle walking path built away from the road to provide a safer alternativ for bikes and people. Pedestrians always seem to walk side by side wit a dog or two on a lead and pretend not to hear / see you coming u behind them. They just expect you to go around them onto the gras often where there are cat head burrs that puncture your tyre i seconds. You'd think pedestrians could show a bit of consideration an 'share' the path rather than see how much of it they can take up an how far they can make a cyclist ride around them -- Courtancer |
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Well said Tamyka. Too true. The same goes for cyclists who run re lights. I cannot control my sheer frustration when I see this an often scream at people who do this. I got told the other day to "get a bell". All I did was ask a bunch o pedestrians, walking 6 abreast in the city Botanical Gardens, if I coul please get through. Just a simple question, asked nicely. Anyway considering all 6 of them were overweight females with plenty of fles (read: stretch marks, celliulite, bellybutton that would fit watermelon) on show, I figured it must have been a huge energ expenditure for them to move 2 steps across -- Lotte |
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My theory is that people generally do not walk around very often anymor & therefore lose the cognitive skills of being aware of what’s abou them when they do go for a walk. Watching old b/w movies from the turn of the century you see peopl look this way & that because horse-drawn vehicles didn’t stop as fas etc – pedestrians had no choice really. My other theory is that pedestrians see anything outside of a roadwa as their own, therefore cyclists have to “go around”. In my time riding around I’ve come to the conclusion that up agains any other path user, I come out as the 2nd class citizen (therefore take to the grass etc) -- Marx SS |
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"Lotte" wrote
Well said Tamyka. Too true. The same goes for cyclists who run red lights. I cannot control my sheer frustration when I see this and often scream at people who do this. See my rant in the "sooky lala" thread.. I got told the other day to "get a bell". All I did was ask a bunch of pedestrians, walking 6 abreast in the city Botanical Gardens, if I could please get through. Just a simple question, asked nicely. Anyway, considering all 6 of them were overweight females with plenty of flesh (read: stretch marks, celliulite, bellybutton that would fit a watermelon) on show, I figured it must have been a huge energy expenditure for them to move 2 steps across. hehe... ;-) I'm sticking with my "avoid bike paths at all costs" method. hippy |
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Marx SS wrote:
My theory is that people generally do not walk around very often anymore & therefore lose the cognitive skills of being aware of what’s about them when they do go for a walk. My solution: bolt a trailer bike to the back, put a four year old on it, and arm them with a horn that honks loudly. I guarantee everyone on the path will know you're there. DaveB "in need of earplugs for the next family ride" |
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"Marx SS"
In my time riding around I've come to the conclusion that up against any other path user, I come out as the 2nd class citizen (therefore I take to the grass etc). We are second-class citizens.. in their minds. I try to reduce possible conflict by slowing, riding around, etc. Just think of all the benefits you can get from not just maintaining 30kph all the way home.. - braking - standing starts - sprintervals - trackstand practise - use the breaks in flow to try wheelies :-) - take your road bike off-road - they still work ya know! hippy - positivity in usenet may not reflect reality ;-) |
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hippy Wrote: [snip] hehe... ;-) I'm sticking with my "avoid bike paths at all costs" method. hippy I'll second that - roads are for bikes and bikes are for roads. OTOH, I know the bit of path that Tamyka is complaining about. The road that runs parallel is probably even slower for cyclists at peak hour. I face a similar problem crossing Darling Harbour on the old Pyrmont Bridge... lots of pedestrians wandering about and no specific bike lane. The bit between the bridge and King St is a section only about 200m long that is only about 4 pedestrians wide. Fortunately, most walking commuters know to keep left - it's the tourists you have to watch. Ritch My own shared path rule: If you're in front of me, I'll avoid hitting you. If you're behind me, you avoid me! -- ritcho |
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"hippy" wrote in message ... "Marx SS" In my time riding around I've come to the conclusion that up against any other path user, I come out as the 2nd class citizen (therefore I take to the grass etc). We are second-class citizens.. in their minds. I try to reduce possible conflict by slowing, riding around, etc. Just think of all the benefits you can get from not just maintaining 30kph all the way home.. - braking - standing starts - sprintervals - trackstand practise - use the breaks in flow to try wheelies :-) - take your road bike off-road - they still work ya know! hippy - positivity in usenet may not reflect reality ;-) I personally like the idea of keeping rolled up printouts of this particular thread to stuff down the back of their neck as you go past. |
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Lotte wrote:
....snip..... I got told the other day to "get a bell". ROFL. Have been told the same, but the problem is that it still doesn't fix the problem. If you have isolated pedestrians, then a few rings from wide away will alert them to your prescence (so long as you are travelling slow) and most give you a wide berth/ the complete path. The worst is crowded paths when you have to ring the bell close to them. I'm thinking of installing a seat on my front rack. The number of times I've been on one side of the path ready to slip around the, ring the bell and they immediately jump sideways in front of me. |
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