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Council that fined girl, 5, for running lemonade stand slaps bikeshop owners with penalty for offering a free pump
On 31.07.2017 17:01, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
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Council that fined girl, 5, for running lemonade stand slaps bikeshop owners with penalty for offering a free pump
On 31.07.2017 21:10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
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Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore
On Tue, 01 Aug 2017 01:11:26 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again: Notice the way they've made the pavement down the side of the shop impassable. Notice the way that woman is about to pass it. Notice how it is impossible for you to shut your stupid even when it's about things you haven't foggiest about, you filthy attention whore! -- More from Birdbrain Macaw's (now "James Wilkinson" LOL) strange sociopathic world: "I like to collect all my junk mail, then stuff it in the first prepaid envelope from some bank or other sending me more junk and write a note telling them to stop polluting the place." MID: |
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Council that fined girl, 5, for running lemonade stand slaps bikeshop owners with penalty for offering a free pump
On 01/08/17 00:23, JNugent wrote:
On 31/07/2017 21:55, TMS320 wrote: On 31/07/17 15:34, Bod wrote: Such pettiness! http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3600461.html I wonder whether the driver stopped on the double yellows caught in Streetview was fined. It isn't necessary to go far to find bollards (reducing the pavement width) that are necessary to dissuade drivers from thinking that the pavement is somewhere for them to park. It is lawful to stop on double yellow lines in some circumstances. Do you have any evidence that this "stop" was unlawful? The sentence in my post was not a question but since you decided to answer your response should have been yes or no. We can follow on from that if the answer is no: either the driver took a chance that it wouldn't be noticed (making officialdom look incompetent) or officialdom must have had good reason. It is even lawful to stop on double reds at certain times. According to the story, the shop owner could legally place the pump on the pavement if a payment was made. This makes the law you hold so dear to appear to operate under the rules of magic where something previously deemed to be an obstruction can suddenly cease to be an obstruction. (Obstruction being the whole gist of the froth you have put forth in your posts.) In the physical world, in which most of us operate, we know that if something is not an obstruction after payment, it can't have been one before a payment. |
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Council that fined girl, 5, for running lemonade stand slaps bikeshop owners with penalty for offering a free pump
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 12:21:20 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 31/07/2017 21:34, Simon Jester wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 3:54:02 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 31/07/2017 15:34, Bod wrote: Such pettiness! http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3600461.html Someone ought to remind Tower Hamlets Council that London's pavements are for the exclusive use of cyclists, with other uses (eg, children crossing the pavement to get from their front door/gate to a parent's car) merely tolerated and as long as they don't interfere with the rights and convenience of cyclists. And "get a licence for the right to trade on part of the pavement"? Get a LICENCE? Pay actual MONEY? The council's got to be 'avin' a larf, ennit? This is cyclists they're dealing with. What a sad person you are. Bike shop provides a free pump and you use this as a reason to air your bigotry. GET A LIFE! A "free pump"? Why does a "free pump" need the pavement to be blocked for pedestrians? Have you *seen* the "free pump" in the photograph accompanying the news story? Tower Hamlets Council may not generally get much right, but on this issue they are 100% justified. Take a look at it and justify your rant against a council acting diligently and in a public-spirited way: https://ibb.co/jToys5 I am not aware of any rant I posted. You turned this in to a rant against cyclists in general which I find rather sad. In the image you provided there is a metal post with a sign on it obstructing the footway If you go in to google street view the object obstructing the footway warns motorists of a dead end street and the bike shop is a tea room with outside seating. You don't seem to object to that. P.S. Don't bother claiming we were talking about the fire hydrant sign, they are usually fixed to the nearest wall. |
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Council that fined girl, 5, for running lemonade stand slaps bikeshop owners with penalty for offering a free pump
On 01/08/2017 10:32, TMS320 wrote:
On 01/08/17 00:23, JNugent wrote: On 31/07/2017 21:55, TMS320 wrote: On 31/07/17 15:34, Bod wrote: Such pettiness! http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3600461.html I wonder whether the driver stopped on the double yellows caught in Streetview was fined. It isn't necessary to go far to find bollards (reducing the pavement width) that are necessary to dissuade drivers from thinking that the pavement is somewhere for them to park. It is lawful to stop on double yellow lines in some circumstances. Do you have any evidence that this "stop" was unlawful? The sentence in my post was not a question but since you decided to answer your response should have been yes or no. We can follow on from that if the answer is no: either the driver took a chance that it wouldn't be noticed (making officialdom look incompetent) or officialdom must have had good reason. It is even lawful to stop on double reds at certain times. According to the story, the shop owner could legally place the pump on the pavement if a payment was made. The story does not say that. And that is probably because it would not be correct. Space on the footway (which many people term "the pavement") is not for sale. The £100 is a penalty for breaking the law on obstruction. This makes the law you hold so dear to appear to operate under the rules of magic where something previously deemed to be an obstruction can suddenly cease to be an obstruction. (Obstruction being the whole gist of the froth you have put forth in your posts.) In the physical world, in which most of us operate, we know that if something is not an obstruction after payment, it can't have been one before a payment. Only in your (admittedly vivid) imagination. He will not get permission to block the narrow pedestrian facility in that side street even if he makes an application. He *might* get permission to block part of the footway around the corner where it is wider. But he'll have to make an application and pay a fee for havinbg it considered, and that may well mean that he won't bother. |
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Council that fined girl, 5, for running lemonade stand slaps bikeshop owners with penalty for offering a free pump
On 01/08/2017 13:10, Simon Jester wrote:
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 12:21:20 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 31/07/2017 21:34, Simon Jester wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 3:54:02 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 31/07/2017 15:34, Bod wrote: Such pettiness! http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3600461.html Someone ought to remind Tower Hamlets Council that London's pavements are for the exclusive use of cyclists, with other uses (eg, children crossing the pavement to get from their front door/gate to a parent's car) merely tolerated and as long as they don't interfere with the rights and convenience of cyclists. And "get a licence for the right to trade on part of the pavement"? Get a LICENCE? Pay actual MONEY? The council's got to be 'avin' a larf, ennit? This is cyclists they're dealing with. What a sad person you are. Bike shop provides a free pump and you use this as a reason to air your bigotry. GET A LIFE! A "free pump"? Why does a "free pump" need the pavement to be blocked for pedestrians? Have you *seen* the "free pump" in the photograph accompanying the news story? Tower Hamlets Council may not generally get much right, but on this issue they are 100% justified. Take a look at it and justify your rant against a council acting diligently and in a public-spirited way: https://ibb.co/jToys5 I am not aware of any rant I posted. Read your post again. You turned this in to a rant against cyclists in general which I find rather sad. In the image you provided there is a metal post with a sign on it obstructing the footway Allowed - and even required - by law. Just plonking privately-owned junk is not allowed (by law). Try again. If you go in to google street view the object obstructing the footway warns motorists of a dead end street and the bike shop is a tea room with outside seating. You don't seem to object to that. P.S. Don't bother claiming we were talking about the fire hydrant sign, they are usually fixed to the nearest wall. I didn't notice a fire hydrant sign. I am sorry that you are so confused. The bicycle pump is a minor and perhaps even unimportant part of the obstruction of the footway, most of which is caused by benches and other assorted junk. Cafés can sometimes get a licence to operate tables on the footway. Retailers can sometimes get a licence to display their wares on the footway. He hasn't got one (a licence). That's why he got a penalty. |
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Council that fined girl, 5, for running lemonade stand slaps bikeshop owners with penalty for offering a free pump
On 01/08/2017 00:41, Rob Morley wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:34:03 +0100 Bod wrote: Such pettiness! http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3600461.html Notice the way they've made the pavement down the side of the shop impassable. Especially for one of those ladies pushing a pram who are always the centre of concern (and quite rightly so) when motor vehicles are (wrongfully) parked half-on the footway. Whilst it would be wrong to force such a person out into the roadway to get past a parked car (and no-one can disagree with that), it's apparently perfectly already to do it with a dirty old wooden bench and assorted other junk including bicycles and accessories. |
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Council that fined girl, 5, for running lemonade stand slaps bikeshop owners with penalty for offering a free pump
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 2:43:26 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 01/08/2017 13:10, Simon Jester wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 12:21:20 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 31/07/2017 21:34, Simon Jester wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 3:54:02 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 31/07/2017 15:34, Bod wrote: Such pettiness! http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...a3600461..html Someone ought to remind Tower Hamlets Council that London's pavements are for the exclusive use of cyclists, with other uses (eg, children crossing the pavement to get from their front door/gate to a parent's car) merely tolerated and as long as they don't interfere with the rights and convenience of cyclists. And "get a licence for the right to trade on part of the pavement"? Get a LICENCE? Pay actual MONEY? The council's got to be 'avin' a larf, ennit? This is cyclists they're dealing with. What a sad person you are. Bike shop provides a free pump and you use this as a reason to air your bigotry. GET A LIFE! A "free pump"? Why does a "free pump" need the pavement to be blocked for pedestrians? Have you *seen* the "free pump" in the photograph accompanying the news story? Tower Hamlets Council may not generally get much right, but on this issue they are 100% justified. Take a look at it and justify your rant against a council acting diligently and in a public-spirited way: https://ibb.co/jToys5 I am not aware of any rant I posted. Read your post again. You turned this in to a rant against cyclists in general which I find rather sad. In the image you provided there is a metal post with a sign on it obstructing the footway Allowed - and even required - by law. Just plonking privately-owned junk is not allowed (by law). Try again. If you go in to google street view the object obstructing the footway warns motorists of a dead end street and the bike shop is a tea room with outside seating. You don't seem to object to that. P.S. Don't bother claiming we were talking about the fire hydrant sign, they are usually fixed to the nearest wall. I didn't notice a fire hydrant sign. I am sorry that you are so confused. The bicycle pump is a minor and perhaps even unimportant part of the obstruction of the footway, most of which is caused by benches and other assorted junk. Cafés can sometimes get a licence to operate tables on the footway. Retailers can sometimes get a licence to display their wares on the footway. He hasn't got one (a licence). That's why he got a penalty. Foolish of me to think you are capable of having an adult discussion. |
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Council that fined girl, 5, for running lemonade stand slaps bikeshop owners with penalty for offering a free pump
On 01-Aug-17 3:22 PM, Simon Jester wrote:
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 2:43:26 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 01/08/2017 13:10, Simon Jester wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 12:21:20 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 31/07/2017 21:34, Simon Jester wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 3:54:02 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 31/07/2017 15:34, Bod wrote: Such pettiness! http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3600461.html Someone ought to remind Tower Hamlets Council that London's pavements are for the exclusive use of cyclists, with other uses (eg, children crossing the pavement to get from their front door/gate to a parent's car) merely tolerated and as long as they don't interfere with the rights and convenience of cyclists. And "get a licence for the right to trade on part of the pavement"? Get a LICENCE? Pay actual MONEY? The council's got to be 'avin' a larf, ennit? This is cyclists they're dealing with. What a sad person you are. Bike shop provides a free pump and you use this as a reason to air your bigotry. GET A LIFE! A "free pump"? Why does a "free pump" need the pavement to be blocked for pedestrians? Have you *seen* the "free pump" in the photograph accompanying the news story? Tower Hamlets Council may not generally get much right, but on this issue they are 100% justified. Take a look at it and justify your rant against a council acting diligently and in a public-spirited way: https://ibb.co/jToys5 I am not aware of any rant I posted. Read your post again. You turned this in to a rant against cyclists in general which I find rather sad. In the image you provided there is a metal post with a sign on it obstructing the footway Allowed - and even required - by law. Just plonking privately-owned junk is not allowed (by law). Try again. If you go in to google street view the object obstructing the footway warns motorists of a dead end street and the bike shop is a tea room with outside seating. You don't seem to object to that. P.S. Don't bother claiming we were talking about the fire hydrant sign, they are usually fixed to the nearest wall. I didn't notice a fire hydrant sign. I am sorry that you are so confused. The bicycle pump is a minor and perhaps even unimportant part of the obstruction of the footway, most of which is caused by benches and other assorted junk. Cafés can sometimes get a licence to operate tables on the footway. Retailers can sometimes get a licence to display their wares on the footway. He hasn't got one (a licence). That's why he got a penalty. Foolish of me to think you are capable of having an adult discussion. It is also possible that the part of the footway used by the bench is in fact owned by the shop. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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