Olympic medal counts

I wrote up a bunch of stuff. My brief bloggy comments he

http://wiredcola.com/content/olympic...stats-fiddling

The compiled data he

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...QWF9GQ01tb05mb
S1pd1JNM0E&hl=en

If anyone wants to fill in the remaining spreadsheet stuff, let me know
and I'll give you edit access.

The fun bits:

I created an "awarded athletes" compilation, which actually counts the
number of athletes who got a medal, by country.

-USA just sneaked out with the most awarded athletes, 98. Canada was #2
at 91.

-my wholly-concocted "weighted athlete awards" favors Canada with 242
(USA 2nd at 186).

-By winning both hockey tournaments, Canada romped away with 68 awarded
gold medals. The surprise second was Norway with 16.

Lots more numbers to dig through if you're so inclined. Not all of them
useful, I'm sure.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

"Ryan Cousineau" wrote in message
]...
I wrote up a bunch of stuff. My brief bloggy comments he

http://wiredcola.com/content/olympic...stats-fiddling

The compiled data he

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...QWF9GQ01tb05mb
S1pd1JNM0E&hl=en

If anyone wants to fill in the remaining spreadsheet stuff, let me know
and I'll give you edit access.

The fun bits:

I created an "awarded athletes" compilation, which actually counts the
number of athletes who got a medal, by country.

-USA just sneaked out with the most awarded athletes, 98. Canada was #2
at 91.

-my wholly-concocted "weighted athlete awards" favors Canada with 242
(USA 2nd at 186).

-By winning both hockey tournaments, Canada romped away with 68 awarded
gold medals. The surprise second was Norway with 16.

Lots more numbers to dig through if you're so inclined. Not all of them
useful, I'm sure.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."


It was very useful of you to tally them all up and share them with everyone.
Good job. Canada had one of its finest hours in both hosting the Olympic
Games and winning most everything that matters in the Olympic Games. The
only black mark on the whole thing was the rookie bobsleigher from Russia
who was overmatched by a world class course and lost control of his little
sleigh.

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
I wrote up a bunch of stuff. My brief bloggy comments he

http://wiredcola.com/content/olympic...stats-fiddling

The compiled data he

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...QWF9GQ01tb05mb
S1pd1JNM0E&hl=en

Who has the most medals per life expectancy?

RickyBobby wrote:
The only black mark on the whole thing was the rookie
bobsleigher from Russia who was overmatched by a world class course and
lost control of his little sleigh.

Is this what passes for trolling in Canada these days?

Bob Schwartz

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
Lots more numbers to dig through if you're so inclined. Not all of them
useful, I'm sure.

For numbers geeks:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/...-of-power.html

The US, Canada, and Asian nations all benefited from the
addition of new events since the Calgary Olympics and the
collapse of the Soviet Union.

Bob Schwartz

Bob Schwartz wrote:
RickyBobby wrote:
The only black mark on the whole thing was the rookie bobsleigher from
Russia who was overmatched by a world class course and lost control of
his little sleigh.

Is this what passes for trolling in Canada these days?

He should have crossposted it to alt.luge.ge

In article ,
"A. Dumas" wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
I wrote up a bunch of stuff. My brief bloggy comments he

http://wiredcola.com/content/olympic...stats-fiddling

The compiled data he

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...QWF9GQ01tb05mb
S1pd1JNM0E&hl=en

Who has the most medals per life expectancy?

To the Chung Charts!

Tough call, but at a guess either the US had enough of a lead to make up
for its Portugal-class life expectancy, or Canada took it by being just
a little bit livelier.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

On Mar 1, 4:45*am, "A. Dumas" wrote:
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
I wrote up a bunch of stuff. My brief bloggy comments he

http://wiredcola.com/content/olympic...stats-fiddling

The compiled data he

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...3LVNQWF9GQ01tb....
S1pd1JNM0E&hl=en

Who has the most medals per life expectancy?

You know, when you factor out deaths due to things completely
unrelated to health care (e.g. deaths due to car accidents or
shootings, where those involved are dead before ever receiving any
medical care) the US goes from having a pitifully low life expectancy
to having the highest life expectancy in the world.

Nice try, though, at turning the conversation to a Probama slant.

"Fred" wrote in message
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You know, when you factor out deaths due to things completely
unrelated to health care (e.g. deaths due to car accidents or
shootings, where those involved are dead before ever receiving any
medical care) the US goes from having a pitifully low life expectancy
to having the highest life expectancy in the world.



Dumbass -

Cite?

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:42:36 -0800, "Kurgan Gringioni"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
...


You know, when you factor out deaths due to things completely
unrelated to health care (e.g. deaths due to car accidents or
shootings, where those involved are dead before ever receiving any
medical care) the US goes from having a pitifully low life expectancy
to having the highest life expectancy in the world.



Dumbass -

Cite?

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.


This report doesn't bring that up as significant:
http://aging.senate.gov/crs/aging1.pdf

so I'm doubting it as well. The percentages listed don't seem as if
they would rise to that level and they include such deaths that did
receive medical care. There would have to be some way to winnow out
specifically those that did not receive medical care and it would have
to be consistent country to country and the delta from that specific
type of death would have to be compared. Really peeling the onion
there, and still not addressing the issues of things like EMT
qualifications and are they part of the medical system, even though a
well trained EMT arriving earlier and providing proper treatment has
the highest impact on those that might of survived an auto accident oe
gunshot wound and didn't.

Which also brings up the question: if providing more EMTs was part of
the package, there would be more victims treated within the envelope
that increases survivability, so it does not remove these deaths from
the general issue.

Further, it would have to compensate for the mortality issues of those
that are removed (ie if black males are 8.5% more likely to die from
gunshot wounds and are more likely to not receive medical care when
shot, then you would have to apply the expectancy profile of black
males appropriately to arrive at a corrected life expectancy - Fred,
you have a study that does that?).

The U.S. does not have a pitiful life expectancy BTW - just one that
is well below many comparable countries. The primary difference is
neither health care systems or death by violence without medical
intervention - it appears primarily to be specific minority groups
with a lower expectancy that comes from many causes, including diet
and differences in survivability of certain major disease, which may
or may not be significantly impacted by the health system (ie,
delivery of medicines for asthma do little if the person does not take
them and does not return for treatment until they are suffering).

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...