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On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 8:35:40 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 7:51:43 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: On 10/20/2017 9:38 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote: Per Andre Jute: I went off him when I discovered that his idea of a gourmet meal was a hamburger. He died at 52 while out jogging. Not exactly a recommendation. I cannot cite, but my recollection is that he was afflicted with genetically-induced high cholesterol ("Familial Hypercholesterolemia"). My brother had it, didn't quite make it to 45. My impression was - at least back then - that, if you've got it, you're dead meat. The phrase 'dead meat' always reminds me of Adele Davis. Fatally smug. Well, she did live to 70 which was pretty good for a woman born in 1904. Yabbut she was saying confidently "Are you looking forward to your 90's? I am!!" while recommending a diet of meat, cheese, nuts, fruit, vegetables.... not only all the things we already know to eat, but seemingly in order of tastiness, and reverse order of what everyone else says or was at the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLq3x494K9k |
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On 10/20/2017 9:30 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 3:02:37 AM UTC+1, Doug Landau wrote: I don't remember Dr White, but I remember Jim Fixx, the prophet of jogging. I went off him when I discovered that his idea of a gourmet meal was a hamburger. He died at 52 while out jogging. Not exactly a recommendation. What age did his dad reach? Sorry, I thought it was well known. His dad also died of a heart attack. Right around the same age IIRC. That proves that genetics are better forecasters than tree rings and tea leaves. But now I'm wondering if his jogging didn't aggravate his genetic predisposition. Andre Jute The genes will get you We can't know but only half his genome is paternal. Then there are epigenic effects plus diet, environment, behavior and biota. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 2017-10-20 18:04, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:44:37 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-20 08:31, wrote: On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 12:23:57 AM UTC-7, John B. wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:06:57 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote: Per John B.: As I told Joerg, just wash your feet :-) I don't buy it when it comes to carpets. Bare floors, maybe... but feet will still be damp after "Washing" and that will affect the carpet over time. Quotes because I strongly suspect "Washing" = "Quick rinse with clear room-temperature water". Well, if you have polished mahogany floors, or terrazzo, floors in your abode and you wash your feet before you enter you won't have problems with your carpet. Carpets also add to the servants work load with all that vacuuming and frequent visits by the carpet cleaning company. They will applaud you when you get rid of them. I have come to the conclusion that hardwood floors with area rugs are much better than wall to wall carpets. These wall to wall crap accumulators are nothing but trouble and for no added comfort. That perception will change when our bodies start giving out and we need canes or walkers. Or when Fido and Fluffy duke it out and the area rugs go sailing for the impteenth time. Well, I'm 85 (this month) and my wife is 72 and so far we haven't had any problems... terrazzo floors on the ground floor and polished mahogany on the second. No canes or walkers yet... There is the difference. You guys are still quite healthy and in your case probably in part due to cycling. We visit nursing homes a lot as volunteers but it's the same at church and other places. Falls of frail people mostly take places where there is no carpet. Outside on the concrete, inside on tile, on marble and on linoleum. Because all that stuff provides low friction and thus almost no grip once a situation gets just a tad out of balance. When you take a look at an indoor walker they are usually the kinds without brake levers. Two wheels and small gliders in back. Most people stick tennis balls over the back posts to improve friction but those do not provided any meaningful friction on slick surfaces. Area rugs are the worst floor covering for those folks. One slight tangle into the edge of a rug and there might be a nasty fall. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 2017-10-20 17:57, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 07:49:01 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-20 00:26, John B. wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 09:57:27 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-18 23:40, John B. wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 07:39:00 +0700, John B. wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 07:57:02 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-17 20:52, John B. wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 07:47:55 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-16 18:59, John B. wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:52:51 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-16 04:16, John B. wrote: On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 10:02:00 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-09 21:09, Tim McNamara wrote: [...] And a walk is inexpensive. Not really when seen per mile. I walk about two miles every day so that's around 700mi/year. A pair of $30 sports shoes wears out within a year so 4c/mile. I get more than that out of a road bike rear tire. Sandals don't wear out that fast for whatever reason but can't be used much in winter. Get rid of the shoes. The feet are self healing and will grow to accommodate even black top pavement. I would add, before you start you say it is impossible, that Zola Budd set the world 5,000 metre record running barefoot. Her mile best of 4:17.57 in 1985, still stands as the British record. Barefooted. Oh, I could, since I already walk and bicycle with sandals all summer long. Problem is, without any shoes one carries the dirt into the house because you can't switch feet at the entrance door, and that will make the missus grumpy (rightfully so). Especially when coming back from a dirt trail. How primitive. The Thais, who were essentially shoeless in years gone by solved the problem by placed a tub of water outside the door and washed their feet before going in the house. So the foot fungus from the first person is spread to all the others? Foot fungus is very rare in places where people don't wear shoes :-) Nope. People walking barefoot in places where others do so as well are the ones getting infected. The risk is usually highest in wet areas. This is one of the reasons the US miltary encourages soldiers to wear "shower shoes" when taking a shower. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15864252 Do some more reading. Candida is a strain of fungus that can cause an infection in your skin, among other locations. In normal conditions, your skin may host small amounts of this fungus. Problems arise when it begins to multiply and creates an overgrowth... The overriding conditions that encourage fungus growth is "The fungus thrives in warm, moist, and sweaty conditions." But those canny Thais don't wash their feet in the common tub. what they do is dip some clean water out of the tub and slosh it over their feet to get them clean. That's going to help a whole lot when someone has just stepped into a blob of gooey sap from a pine tree. When I come home from MTB rides I often have that under my shoes. Since they get swapped in the garage, no problem. Strange that it doesn't seem to be a problem in actual practice isn't it? Or, at least in all the years that I've lived in Asia I've never seen it be a problem. But more to the point I grew up in New England where the pine tree was, perhaps, the most common tree and unless you actually climbed a pine tree we never got any sap on your feet. It doesn't just drip off the trees to cover the ground. But maybe California pine trees are different. Addendum: I came across this today. Apparently California is different :-) http://www.ehow.com/info_8691222_sti...e-needles.html Pine needles may also be covered in a sticky substance caused by disease and infestation, such as aphids, which are attracted to pine trees. According to the University of California's Department of Agriculture and Natural Resources, "Aphids are small, soft-bodied insects with long, slender mouth parts that they use to pierce stems, leaves, and other tender plant parts and suck out plant fluids." In addition to causing openings in pine trees which may cause sap to leak, the aphids themselves emit a sticky substance called honeydew. I came home from a long singletrack ride yesterday. The last couple of miles are on asphalt and both tires emitted the usual lip-smacking sounds. Had to stop before the garage, whip out the trusty old Swiss Army knife and scrape the pine sap blobs out of the knobbies. Just another normal day in paradise. When helping another MTB rider fix a flat the drill here is to never just grab a wheel with both hands without looking first. Goat's head thorns are the main reason but also sap. Some kinds of sap won't come off the skin with just soap and water. Hmmm.... immigrate. BTDT. There is always some hair in the soup, everywhere. ... No sticky pine globs of goat head thorns in many parts of the world :-) However, only four snakes in the US are poisonous. Then you move to places like Australia and no goat's head thorns but just about every snake is poisonous. Or you move to the Caribbean where there is no And Australian snake bite fatalities have been low. between four to six deaths a year from snake bites. Note that annual bicycle deaths in California is in the 125 range. winter but then cloud come up and suddenly you bike route looks like this: https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset...70_nou pscale But from your posts here you seem to glory in riding through mud and water. Got the disc brakes and all the fixings. I would have thought that a flooded road would be duck's soup for you. And it would get your feet clean :-) Check on all points for me. However, that does not go for 90% of other cyclists in my neighborhood. When I am on the El Dorado Trail during foul weather I am sometimes the only rider out there, dozens of miles. Of course, if you are really worried you could attach floats. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb6ZeiWkxRM Also works with bicycles and there are indeed two areas where I could use that for a shortcut and currently to get around a rock slide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlurwAD1nro However, I need my blue water cooler bodies for brewing and filled in a Koelsch (Germans style beer) and a Pale Ale for secondary fermentation yesterday. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 7:19:19 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-10-20 18:04, John B. wrote: On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:44:37 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-20 08:31, wrote: On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 12:23:57 AM UTC-7, John B. wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:06:57 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote: Per John B.: As I told Joerg, just wash your feet :-) I don't buy it when it comes to carpets. Bare floors, maybe... but feet will still be damp after "Washing" and that will affect the carpet over time. Quotes because I strongly suspect "Washing" = "Quick rinse with clear room-temperature water". Well, if you have polished mahogany floors, or terrazzo, floors in your abode and you wash your feet before you enter you won't have problems with your carpet. Carpets also add to the servants work load with all that vacuuming and frequent visits by the carpet cleaning company. They will applaud you when you get rid of them. I have come to the conclusion that hardwood floors with area rugs are much better than wall to wall carpets. These wall to wall crap accumulators are nothing but trouble and for no added comfort. That perception will change when our bodies start giving out and we need canes or walkers. Or when Fido and Fluffy duke it out and the area rugs go sailing for the impteenth time. Well, I'm 85 (this month) and my wife is 72 and so far we haven't had any problems... terrazzo floors on the ground floor and polished mahogany on the second. No canes or walkers yet... There is the difference. You guys are still quite healthy and in your case probably in part due to cycling. We visit nursing homes a lot as volunteers but it's the same at church and other places. Falls of frail people mostly take places where there is no carpet. Outside on the concrete, inside on tile, on marble and on linoleum. Because all that stuff provides low friction and thus almost no grip once a situation gets just a tad out of balance. When you take a look at an indoor walker they are usually the kinds without brake levers. Two wheels and small gliders in back. Most people stick tennis balls over the back posts to improve friction but those do not provided any meaningful friction on slick surfaces. Area rugs are the worst floor covering for those folks. One slight tangle into the edge of a rug and there might be a nasty fall. I'll have to think about that. I have virtually no balance. Especially when the medication kicks in. But under normal circumstances I am losing my balance in the house all the time. I have wall-to-wall carpeting because the damn things are always dirty and in need of commercial cleaning. I solved this before by putting area rugs over the top of them but after my ex-wife decided she was better off with than without me she also decided that she was running everything. Which was (confidentially) what caused everything in the first place. Because running everything means doing nothing. I have the cabinets in the kitchens and the heavy bed frame in the bedroom and know exactly where they are at all times and can catch myself from falling by hooking a foot under these overhangs. I can't feel my feet but I can feel when I stop tipping over. |
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On Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 7:27:17 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-10-20 17:57, John B. wrote: On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 07:49:01 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-20 00:26, John B. wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 09:57:27 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-18 23:40, John B. wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 07:39:00 +0700, John B. wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 07:57:02 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-17 20:52, John B. wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 07:47:55 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-16 18:59, John B. wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:52:51 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-16 04:16, John B. wrote: On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 10:02:00 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-09 21:09, Tim McNamara wrote: [...] And a walk is inexpensive. Not really when seen per mile. I walk about two miles every day so that's around 700mi/year. A pair of $30 sports shoes wears out within a year so 4c/mile. I get more than that out of a road bike rear tire. Sandals don't wear out that fast for whatever reason but can't be used much in winter. Get rid of the shoes. The feet are self healing and will grow to accommodate even black top pavement. I would add, before you start you say it is impossible, that Zola Budd set the world 5,000 metre record running barefoot. Her mile best of 4:17.57 in 1985, still stands as the British record. Barefooted. Oh, I could, since I already walk and bicycle with sandals all summer long. Problem is, without any shoes one carries the dirt into the house because you can't switch feet at the entrance door, and that will make the missus grumpy (rightfully so). Especially when coming back from a dirt trail. How primitive. The Thais, who were essentially shoeless in years gone by solved the problem by placed a tub of water outside the door and washed their feet before going in the house. So the foot fungus from the first person is spread to all the others? Foot fungus is very rare in places where people don't wear shoes :-) Nope. People walking barefoot in places where others do so as well are the ones getting infected. The risk is usually highest in wet areas. This is one of the reasons the US miltary encourages soldiers to wear "shower shoes" when taking a shower. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15864252 Do some more reading. Candida is a strain of fungus that can cause an infection in your skin, among other locations. In normal conditions, your skin may host small amounts of this fungus. Problems arise when it begins to multiply and creates an overgrowth... The overriding conditions that encourage fungus growth is "The fungus thrives in warm, moist, and sweaty conditions." But those canny Thais don't wash their feet in the common tub. what they do is dip some clean water out of the tub and slosh it over their feet to get them clean. That's going to help a whole lot when someone has just stepped into a blob of gooey sap from a pine tree. When I come home from MTB rides I often have that under my shoes. Since they get swapped in the garage, no problem. Strange that it doesn't seem to be a problem in actual practice isn't it? Or, at least in all the years that I've lived in Asia I've never seen it be a problem. But more to the point I grew up in New England where the pine tree was, perhaps, the most common tree and unless you actually climbed a pine tree we never got any sap on your feet. It doesn't just drip off the trees to cover the ground. But maybe California pine trees are different. Addendum: I came across this today. Apparently California is different :-) http://www.ehow.com/info_8691222_sti...e-needles.html Pine needles may also be covered in a sticky substance caused by disease and infestation, such as aphids, which are attracted to pine trees. According to the University of California's Department of Agriculture and Natural Resources, "Aphids are small, soft-bodied insects with long, slender mouth parts that they use to pierce stems, leaves, and other tender plant parts and suck out plant fluids." In addition to causing openings in pine trees which may cause sap to leak, the aphids themselves emit a sticky substance called honeydew. I came home from a long singletrack ride yesterday. The last couple of miles are on asphalt and both tires emitted the usual lip-smacking sounds. Had to stop before the garage, whip out the trusty old Swiss Army knife and scrape the pine sap blobs out of the knobbies. Just another normal day in paradise. When helping another MTB rider fix a flat the drill here is to never just grab a wheel with both hands without looking first. Goat's head thorns are the main reason but also sap. Some kinds of sap won't come off the skin with just soap and water. Hmmm.... immigrate. BTDT. There is always some hair in the soup, everywhere. ... No sticky pine globs of goat head thorns in many parts of the world :-) However, only four snakes in the US are poisonous. Then you move to places like Australia and no goat's head thorns but just about every snake is poisonous. Or you move to the Caribbean where there is no And Australian snake bite fatalities have been low. between four to six deaths a year from snake bites. Note that annual bicycle deaths in California is in the 125 range. winter but then cloud come up and suddenly you bike route looks like this: https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset...70_nou pscale But from your posts here you seem to glory in riding through mud and water. Got the disc brakes and all the fixings. I would have thought that a flooded road would be duck's soup for you. And it would get your feet clean :-) Check on all points for me. However, that does not go for 90% of other cyclists in my neighborhood. When I am on the El Dorado Trail during foul weather I am sometimes the only rider out there, dozens of miles. Of course, if you are really worried you could attach floats. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb6ZeiWkxRM Also works with bicycles and there are indeed two areas where I could use that for a shortcut and currently to get around a rock slide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlurwAD1nro However, I need my blue water cooler bodies for brewing and filled in a Koelsch (Germans style beer) and a Pale Ale for secondary fermentation yesterday. I drink Belgian dark ale which I understand has to be aged for a year or so. So I'm not about to make that. |
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On Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 3:41:52 AM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/20/2017 9:30 PM, Andre Jute wrote: On Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 3:02:37 AM UTC+1, Doug Landau wrote: I don't remember Dr White, but I remember Jim Fixx, the prophet of jogging. I went off him when I discovered that his idea of a gourmet meal was a hamburger. He died at 52 while out jogging. Not exactly a recommendation. What age did his dad reach? Sorry, I thought it was well known. His dad also died of a heart attack. Right around the same age IIRC. That proves that genetics are better forecasters than tree rings and tea leaves. But now I'm wondering if his jogging didn't aggravate his genetic predisposition. Andre Jute The genes will get you We can't know but only half his genome is paternal. Then there are epigenic effects plus diet, environment, behavior and biota. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 It's a long time since I studied classical Greek, but if "epigenic" (which my spellchecker wants to correct to "epigenetic") means effects superior to ("over") the genome, surely the very word is a contradiction in terms. I thought DNA was the master roll so to speak, none higher, none superior, none able to countermand the fate it decrees. Andre Jute Cursed with curiosity in a wikipedia age |
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 07:19:31 -0700, Joerg
wrote: On 2017-10-20 18:04, John B. wrote: On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:44:37 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-20 08:31, wrote: On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 12:23:57 AM UTC-7, John B. wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:06:57 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote: Per John B.: As I told Joerg, just wash your feet :-) I don't buy it when it comes to carpets. Bare floors, maybe... but feet will still be damp after "Washing" and that will affect the carpet over time. Quotes because I strongly suspect "Washing" = "Quick rinse with clear room-temperature water". Well, if you have polished mahogany floors, or terrazzo, floors in your abode and you wash your feet before you enter you won't have problems with your carpet. Carpets also add to the servants work load with all that vacuuming and frequent visits by the carpet cleaning company. They will applaud you when you get rid of them. I have come to the conclusion that hardwood floors with area rugs are much better than wall to wall carpets. These wall to wall crap accumulators are nothing but trouble and for no added comfort. That perception will change when our bodies start giving out and we need canes or walkers. Or when Fido and Fluffy duke it out and the area rugs go sailing for the impteenth time. Well, I'm 85 (this month) and my wife is 72 and so far we haven't had any problems... terrazzo floors on the ground floor and polished mahogany on the second. No canes or walkers yet... There is the difference. You guys are still quite healthy and in your case probably in part due to cycling. We visit nursing homes a lot as volunteers but it's the same at church and other places. Falls of frail people mostly take places where there is no carpet. Outside on the concrete, inside on tile, on marble and on linoleum. Because all that stuff provides low friction and thus almost no grip once a situation gets just a tad out of balance. I think that myself and my wife are still mobile because we keep mobile. I know that my grandfather worked all his life and was raising 3,000 chickens at a time when he retired and doing everything himself, he probably walked a couple of miles a day just back and forth between the house and the chicken houses right up until he was in his mid 80's. My grandmother, on the other hand, was a typical housewife of that era. Stay home, raise the kids, cooking and laundry and shopping on Saturday with the family. I remember when I was little my grandmother used to walk down town, probably one mile round trip but as time went by she walked less and less until probably the last eight or ten years of her life I don't believe she ever left the house. My own belief is that had my grandmother walked down town several times a week she would have been far better off in her last few years. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 13:02:45 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 7:19:19 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-20 18:04, John B. wrote: On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:44:37 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-20 08:31, wrote: On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 12:23:57 AM UTC-7, John B. wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:06:57 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote: Per John B.: As I told Joerg, just wash your feet :-) I don't buy it when it comes to carpets. Bare floors, maybe... but feet will still be damp after "Washing" and that will affect the carpet over time. Quotes because I strongly suspect "Washing" = "Quick rinse with clear room-temperature water". Well, if you have polished mahogany floors, or terrazzo, floors in your abode and you wash your feet before you enter you won't have problems with your carpet. Carpets also add to the servants work load with all that vacuuming and frequent visits by the carpet cleaning company. They will applaud you when you get rid of them. I have come to the conclusion that hardwood floors with area rugs are much better than wall to wall carpets. These wall to wall crap accumulators are nothing but trouble and for no added comfort. That perception will change when our bodies start giving out and we need canes or walkers. Or when Fido and Fluffy duke it out and the area rugs go sailing for the impteenth time. Well, I'm 85 (this month) and my wife is 72 and so far we haven't had any problems... terrazzo floors on the ground floor and polished mahogany on the second. No canes or walkers yet... There is the difference. You guys are still quite healthy and in your case probably in part due to cycling. We visit nursing homes a lot as volunteers but it's the same at church and other places. Falls of frail people mostly take places where there is no carpet. Outside on the concrete, inside on tile, on marble and on linoleum. Because all that stuff provides low friction and thus almost no grip once a situation gets just a tad out of balance. When you take a look at an indoor walker they are usually the kinds without brake levers. Two wheels and small gliders in back. Most people stick tennis balls over the back posts to improve friction but those do not provided any meaningful friction on slick surfaces. Area rugs are the worst floor covering for those folks. One slight tangle into the edge of a rug and there might be a nasty fall. I'll have to think about that. I have virtually no balance. Especially when the medication kicks in. Medicine aside you can improve your balance by doing exercises. Try standing on one leg and swing the other back and forth. Then switch legs. Initially you probably can't do that for a minute without staggering but after a few weeks you will find that you are nearly as stable on one leg as you are on two. But under normal circumstances I am losing my balance in the house all the time. I have wall-to-wall carpeting because the damn things are always dirty and in need of commercial cleaning. I solved this before by putting area rugs over the top of them but after my ex-wife decided she was better off with than without me she also decided that she was running everything. Which was (confidentially) what caused everything in the first place. Because running everything means doing nothing. I have the cabinets in the kitchens and the heavy bed frame in the bedroom and know exactly where they are at all times and can catch myself from falling by hooking a foot under these overhangs. I can't feel my feet but I can feel when I stop tipping over. -- Cheers, John B. |
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