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Old July 5th 17, 04:25 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default It's not every day...

....you get evidence of the existence of something that was alleged to
have been extinct for 80+ years.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/05/local-roads-government-cash-councils-motorways

QUOTE:
English councils will be given access to a multibillion-pound fund for
local road improvements under plans unveiled by the transport secretary,
Chris Grayling.

It was initially envisaged that the cash, held in the national roads
fund, would be spent on the motorways and major A-roads managed by
Highways England. But Grayling announced a change of tack, saying that
some of it should be diverted to be spent on roads run by local authorities.
ENDQUOTE

The national WHAT?

Someone needs to tell the Guardian PDQ that there is no "national roads
fund" and that it was all abolished long ago.
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Old July 5th 17, 04:35 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 4:25:25 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
...you get evidence of the existence of something that was alleged to
have been extinct for 80+ years.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/05/local-roads-government-cash-councils-motorways

QUOTE:
English councils will be given access to a multibillion-pound fund for
local road improvements under plans unveiled by the transport secretary,
Chris Grayling.

It was initially envisaged that the cash, held in the national roads
fund, would be spent on the motorways and major A-roads managed by
Highways England. But Grayling announced a change of tack, saying that
some of it should be diverted to be spent on roads run by local authorities.
ENDQUOTE

The national WHAT?

Someone needs to tell the Guardian PDQ that there is no "national roads
fund" and that it was all abolished long ago.



It was the road fund LICENCE that was replaced with VED.
Obviously national and local governments have a road budget that comes from the general tax pot.
The only reference I can find for national roads fund is in Zambia which I am fairly sure is not in the UK.
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Old July 7th 17, 07:22 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 6:33:49 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:


I always thought that Zambia was in Bradford.


Paki scum.
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Old July 10th 17, 02:32 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 05/07/2017 16:35, wrote:
On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 4:25:25 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
...you get evidence of the existence of something that was alleged to
have been extinct for 80+ years.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/05/local-roads-government-cash-councils-motorways

QUOTE:
English councils will be given access to a multibillion-pound fund for
local road improvements under plans unveiled by the transport secretary,
Chris Grayling.

It was initially envisaged that the cash, held in the national roads
fund, would be spent on the motorways and major A-roads managed by
Highways England. But Grayling announced a change of tack, saying that
some of it should be diverted to be spent on roads run by local authorities.
ENDQUOTE

The national WHAT?

Someone needs to tell the Guardian PDQ that there is no "national roads
fund" and that it was all abolished long ago.



It was the road fund LICENCE that was replaced with VED.
Obviously national and local governments have a road budget that comes from the general tax pot.
The only reference I can find for national roads fund is in Zambia which I am fairly sure is not in the UK.


No, no... nothing to do with Zambia...

The story mentions the English national roads fund. And as you know (but
cannot bring yourself to admit) and fund is not a budget.

But you can imagine my surprise on reading it, because you and others
have been squealing for years that the road fund was abolished back in
the Middle Ages or something.
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Old July 10th 17, 08:21 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 10/07/17 02:32, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2017 16:35, wrote:
On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 4:25:25 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
...you get evidence of the existence of something that was alleged to
have been extinct for 80+ years.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/05/local-roads-government-cash-councils-motorways


QUOTE:
English councils will be given access to a multibillion-pound fund for
local road improvements under plans unveiled by the transport secretary,
Chris Grayling.

It was initially envisaged that the cash, held in the national roads
fund, would be spent on the motorways and major A-roads managed by
Highways England. But Grayling announced a change of tack, saying that
some of it should be diverted to be spent on roads run by local
authorities.
ENDQUOTE

The national WHAT?

Someone needs to tell the Guardian PDQ that there is no "national roads
fund" and that it was all abolished long ago.


It was the road fund LICENCE that was replaced with VED.
Obviously national and local governments have a road budget that comes
from the general tax pot.
The only reference I can find for national roads fund is in Zambia
which I am fairly sure is not in the UK.


No, no... nothing to do with Zambia...

The story mentions the English national roads fund. And as you know (but
cannot bring yourself to admit) and fund is not a budget.

But you can imagine my surprise on reading it, because you and others
have been squealing for years that the road fund was abolished back in
the Middle Ages or something.


It was abolished. This is a different one promised by George Osborne two
years ago.

http://www.ciht.org.uk/en/wra/news/i...nal-roads-fund

"Unveiling his Budget this lunchtime Mr Osborne said that every penny
raised through the duty would, by the end of the decade, be used to
improve the highways network."

....end of decade, hmmm.


  #7  
Old July 10th 17, 05:27 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 10/07/2017 08:21, TMS320 wrote:
On 10/07/17 02:32, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2017 16:35, wrote:
On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 4:25:25 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
...you get evidence of the existence of something that was alleged to
have been extinct for 80+ years.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/05/local-roads-government-cash-councils-motorways


QUOTE:
English councils will be given access to a multibillion-pound fund for
local road improvements under plans unveiled by the transport
secretary,
Chris Grayling.

It was initially envisaged that the cash, held in the national roads
fund, would be spent on the motorways and major A-roads managed by
Highways England. But Grayling announced a change of tack, saying that
some of it should be diverted to be spent on roads run by local
authorities.
ENDQUOTE

The national WHAT?

Someone needs to tell the Guardian PDQ that there is no "national roads
fund" and that it was all abolished long ago.

It was the road fund LICENCE that was replaced with VED.
Obviously national and local governments have a road budget that
comes from the general tax pot.
The only reference I can find for national roads fund is in Zambia
which I am fairly sure is not in the UK.


No, no... nothing to do with Zambia...

The story mentions the English national roads fund. And as you know
(but cannot bring yourself to admit) and fund is not a budget.

But you can imagine my surprise on reading it, because you and others
have been squealing for years that the road fund was abolished back in
the Middle Ages or something.


It was abolished. This is a different one promised by George Osborne two
years ago.

http://www.ciht.org.uk/en/wra/news/i...nal-roads-fund


"Unveiling his Budget this lunchtime Mr Osborne said that every penny
raised through the duty would, by the end of the decade, be used to
improve the highways network."


Doesn't that demolish (once and for all) the futile attacks on Road Tax
as a concept?

...end of decade, hmmm.


Thirty months away.

One hundred and twenty nine weeks.
  #8  
Old July 10th 17, 06:37 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Tosspot[_3_]
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On 10/07/17 09:21, TMS320 wrote:
On 10/07/17 02:32, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2017 16:35, wrote:
On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 4:25:25 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
...you get evidence of the existence of something that was alleged to
have been extinct for 80+ years.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/05/local-roads-government-cash-councils-motorways


QUOTE:
English councils will be given access to a multibillion-pound fund for
local road improvements under plans unveiled by the transport
secretary,
Chris Grayling.

It was initially envisaged that the cash, held in the national roads
fund, would be spent on the motorways and major A-roads managed by
Highways England. But Grayling announced a change of tack, saying that
some of it should be diverted to be spent on roads run by local
authorities.
ENDQUOTE

The national WHAT?

Someone needs to tell the Guardian PDQ that there is no "national roads
fund" and that it was all abolished long ago.

It was the road fund LICENCE that was replaced with VED.
Obviously national and local governments have a road budget that
comes from the general tax pot.
The only reference I can find for national roads fund is in Zambia
which I am fairly sure is not in the UK.


No, no... nothing to do with Zambia...

The story mentions the English national roads fund. And as you know
(but cannot bring yourself to admit) and fund is not a budget.

But you can imagine my surprise on reading it, because you and others
have been squealing for years that the road fund was abolished back in
the Middle Ages or something.


It was abolished. This is a different one promised by George Osborne two
years ago.

http://www.ciht.org.uk/en/wra/news/i...nal-roads-fund


"Unveiling his Budget this lunchtime Mr Osborne said that every penny
raised through the duty would, by the end of the decade, be used to
improve the highways network."

...end of decade, hmmm.


Everybody still seems to think it's VED.


  #9  
Old July 10th 17, 10:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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On 10/07/17 17:27, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2017 08:21, TMS320 wrote:
On 10/07/17 02:32, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2017 16:35, wrote:
On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 4:25:25 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
...you get evidence of the existence of something that was alleged to
have been extinct for 80+ years.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/05/local-roads-government-cash-councils-motorways


QUOTE:
English councils will be given access to a multibillion-pound fund for
local road improvements under plans unveiled by the transport
secretary,
Chris Grayling.

It was initially envisaged that the cash, held in the national roads
fund, would be spent on the motorways and major A-roads managed by
Highways England. But Grayling announced a change of tack, saying that
some of it should be diverted to be spent on roads run by local
authorities.
ENDQUOTE

The national WHAT?

Someone needs to tell the Guardian PDQ that there is no "national
roads
fund" and that it was all abolished long ago.

It was the road fund LICENCE that was replaced with VED.
Obviously national and local governments have a road budget that
comes from the general tax pot.
The only reference I can find for national roads fund is in Zambia
which I am fairly sure is not in the UK.

No, no... nothing to do with Zambia...

The story mentions the English national roads fund. And as you know
(but cannot bring yourself to admit) and fund is not a budget.

But you can imagine my surprise on reading it, because you and others
have been squealing for years that the road fund was abolished back
in the Middle Ages or something.


It was abolished. This is a different one promised by George Osborne
two years ago.

http://www.ciht.org.uk/en/wra/news/i...nal-roads-fund


"Unveiling his Budget this lunchtime Mr Osborne said that every penny
raised through the duty would, by the end of the decade, be used to
improve the highways network."


Doesn't that demolish (once and for all) the futile attacks on Road Tax
as a concept?


Not really. The fund (if it comes about) will go to roads yet to be
built, not existing ones.

...end of decade, hmmm.


Thirty months away.

One hundred and twenty nine weeks.


Plenty of time for a new regime to change its mind.
  #10  
Old July 11th 17, 02:41 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 10/07/2017 22:23, TMS320 wrote:
On 10/07/17 17:27, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2017 08:21, TMS320 wrote:
On 10/07/17 02:32, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2017 16:35, wrote:
On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 4:25:25 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
...you get evidence of the existence of something that was alleged to
have been extinct for 80+ years.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/05/local-roads-government-cash-councils-motorways


QUOTE:
English councils will be given access to a multibillion-pound fund
for
local road improvements under plans unveiled by the transport
secretary,
Chris Grayling.

It was initially envisaged that the cash, held in the national roads
fund, would be spent on the motorways and major A-roads managed by
Highways England. But Grayling announced a change of tack, saying
that
some of it should be diverted to be spent on roads run by local
authorities.
ENDQUOTE

The national WHAT?

Someone needs to tell the Guardian PDQ that there is no "national
roads
fund" and that it was all abolished long ago.

It was the road fund LICENCE that was replaced with VED.
Obviously national and local governments have a road budget that
comes from the general tax pot.
The only reference I can find for national roads fund is in Zambia
which I am fairly sure is not in the UK.

No, no... nothing to do with Zambia...

The story mentions the English national roads fund. And as you know
(but cannot bring yourself to admit) and fund is not a budget.

But you can imagine my surprise on reading it, because you and
others have been squealing for years that the road fund was
abolished back in the Middle Ages or something.

It was abolished. This is a different one promised by George Osborne
two years ago.

http://www.ciht.org.uk/en/wra/news/i...nal-roads-fund


"Unveiling his Budget this lunchtime Mr Osborne said that every penny
raised through the duty would, by the end of the decade, be used to
improve the highways network."


Doesn't that demolish (once and for all) the futile attacks on Road
Tax as a concept?


Not really. The fund (if it comes about) will go to roads yet to be
built, not existing ones.


Where does it say that?

Despite the announcement that has just been made, I am not aware of any
new A-routes or motorways planned. Are you?
...end of decade, hmmm.


Thirty months away.


One hundred and twenty nine weeks.


Plenty of time for a new regime to change its mind.


It'll take that long to spend the money aleady committed.

What the UK needs, though (and you hint at it above), is a couple of new
long-disctance motorways which steer clear of existing urban areas, have
only a limited number of interchanges and do not, in practice, cater for
journeys of much less than a hundred miles.

 




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