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Shooting range to fire from bicycle?
On Jul 9, 6:19*pm, DennisTheBald wrote:
On Jul 9, 2:01 pm, " wrote: Dan, I think you're right on about it being quite a challenge to both "draw" and then fire from a moving bike - I would have to say no way / no how... And that's without the "this wacko is trying to hit me with his car and kill me" mental factor. but then some yahoo will practice it and get it down (probably some yahoo on a trike or maybe a stoker on a tandem). * Either would be cheating, we're talking diamonds. It'd be easy on a tandem, let the other guy drive and the stoker do the shooting. Still in the space of time during which most motoristas interface with us, no. *Heck, most of 'em wont even hop outta that car and say that **** when you catch 'em at the stop light (hmmm, there might be some merit to having a gun rack on the bike if you're gonna issue such challenges on a regular basis). *And yeah, if you're gonna shoot at 'em going away you're really gonna want a long gun instead of some wimpy assed . 454 causill But a much funner thought is paintball bicycle cavalry games, I'd pay to play, you bet! As would I. With mountain bikes I could even think of places the game could be played. Damn me for selling that Tippman! Might have to hit ebay/craigslist. |
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Shooting range to fire from bicycle?
On Jul 9, 7:46*pm, "emanon" wrote:
wrote in message ... I apologize if this sounds troll-ish, which it probably will, but it's really just curiosity combined with the desire to shut up some fellow friends. *I know some fellow (packing) riders who claim that if a car ever tried to run them over maliciously (not as big a stretch as you'd hope) they'd "shoot the driver dead" while riding. *Not stop-and- shoot, which has been clarified, but one-handed firing of the gun while still riding. *To me, this is ludicrous. *I have plenty of range time, including tactical (where the shooter is constantly moving, covering, rolling etc.) and find it's extremely difficult to be accurate shooting while on the move. *I think these guys watched too many ghetto-gangsta movies where people hold guns sideways and shoot out windows of moving cars. *I think I'd have trouble hitting a car at 100 yards while riding in a panic situation, much less the driver. *A couple guys I know fail to see that, and cite their accuracy at the range, while standing in a booth (sidenote: *even in this situation I'm a better shot than most of them). *Shooting from the weaver stance in a booth is a lot different than shooting while running, or coming up from a roll. *I'd like to arrange some sort of game to test my position against that of our friends. *The first thing that comes to mind is pellet guns or paintball guns in the woods, but the argument is begging to be made: *"Off-road is totally different, the bike bounces around way too much. *I meant from the pavement!). *Shooting anything from the street, even bb or paintball guns, is a problem. Anyone have any ideas where we may find a suitable area to fire from the bikes while riding on pavement? *Local (I'm in New England) or general apply-anywhere ideas welcome. *Note: *I'm not talking about firing the .357 while riding, which is their concept. *I'm trying to prove my point using something more low-key and safe such as pellet or paintball guns. Other common-sense arguments (i.e. when you miss you could hit an innocent bystander, a house, etc) are always met with nonsense (i.e. I'd only do it when there's nothing around but woods). Comments welcome. Sounds like an event I wanted to stage when I lived on the edge of the desert with LOTS of open areas. There is an Olympic sport called Biathlon involving cross country skiing and shooting a target rifle. After quite a few bubbly brews some of my friends and I wanted to do handguns and mountain bikes. Somehow, sadly, we never had the bikes and guns together at the same time . . .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Jul 9, 7:46*pm, "emanon" wrote:
wrote in message ... I apologize if this sounds troll-ish, which it probably will, but it's really just curiosity combined with the desire to shut up some fellow friends. *I know some fellow (packing) riders who claim that if a car ever tried to run them over maliciously (not as big a stretch as you'd hope) they'd "shoot the driver dead" while riding. *Not stop-and- shoot, which has been clarified, but one-handed firing of the gun while still riding. *To me, this is ludicrous. *I have plenty of range time, including tactical (where the shooter is constantly moving, covering, rolling etc.) and find it's extremely difficult to be accurate shooting while on the move. *I think these guys watched too many ghetto-gangsta movies where people hold guns sideways and shoot out windows of moving cars. *I think I'd have trouble hitting a car at 100 yards while riding in a panic situation, much less the driver. *A couple guys I know fail to see that, and cite their accuracy at the range, while standing in a booth (sidenote: *even in this situation I'm a better shot than most of them). *Shooting from the weaver stance in a booth is a lot different than shooting while running, or coming up from a roll. *I'd like to arrange some sort of game to test my position against that of our friends. *The first thing that comes to mind is pellet guns or paintball guns in the woods, but the argument is begging to be made: *"Off-road is totally different, the bike bounces around way too much. *I meant from the pavement!). *Shooting anything from the street, even bb or paintball guns, is a problem. Anyone have any ideas where we may find a suitable area to fire from the bikes while riding on pavement? *Local (I'm in New England) or general apply-anywhere ideas welcome. *Note: *I'm not talking about firing the .357 while riding, which is their concept. *I'm trying to prove my point using something more low-key and safe such as pellet or paintball guns. Other common-sense arguments (i.e. when you miss you could hit an innocent bystander, a house, etc) are always met with nonsense (i.e. I'd only do it when there's nothing around but woods). Comments welcome. Sounds like an event I wanted to stage when I lived on the edge of the desert with LOTS of open areas. There is an Olympic sport called Biathlon involving cross country skiing and shooting a target rifle. After quite a few bubbly brews some of my friends and I wanted to do handguns and mountain bikes. Somehow, sadly, we never had the bikes and guns together at the same time . . .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sounds like fun! I believe, however, in the biathlon they get off the bikes to do the shooting. I think I'd get along fine with you and your desert friends |
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wrote in message ... I apologize if this sounds troll-ish, which it probably will, but it's really just curiosity combined with the desire to shut up some fellow friends. I know some fellow (packing) riders who claim that if a car ever tried to run them over maliciously (not as big a stretch as you'd hope) they'd "shoot the driver dead" while riding. Not stop-and- shoot, which has been clarified, but one-handed firing of the gun while still riding. To me, this is ludicrous. I have plenty of range time, including tactical (where the shooter is constantly moving, covering, rolling etc.) and find it's extremely difficult to be accurate shooting while on the move. I think these guys watched too many ghetto-gangsta movies where people hold guns sideways and shoot out windows of moving cars. I think I'd have trouble hitting a car at 100 yards while riding in a panic situation, much less the driver. A couple guys I know fail to see that, and cite their accuracy at the range, while standing in a booth (sidenote: even in this situation I'm a better shot than most of them). Shooting from the weaver stance in a booth is a lot different than shooting while running, or coming up from a roll. I'd like to arrange some sort of game to test my position against that of our friends. The first thing that comes to mind is pellet guns or paintball guns in the woods, but the argument is begging to be made: "Off-road is totally different, the bike bounces around way too much. I meant from the pavement!). Shooting anything from the street, even bb or paintball guns, is a problem. Anyone have any ideas where we may find a suitable area to fire from the bikes while riding on pavement? Local (I'm in New England) or general apply-anywhere ideas welcome. Note: I'm not talking about firing the .357 while riding, which is their concept. I'm trying to prove my point using something more low-key and safe such as pellet or paintball guns. Other common-sense arguments (i.e. when you miss you could hit an innocent bystander, a house, etc) are always met with nonsense (i.e. I'd only do it when there's nothing around but woods). Comments welcome. Sounds like an event I wanted to stage when I lived on the edge of the desert with LOTS of open areas. There is an Olympic sport called Biathlon involving cross country skiing and shooting a target rifle. After quite a few bubbly brews some of my friends and I wanted to do handguns and mountain bikes. Somehow, sadly, we never had the bikes and guns together at the same time . . . |
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Buy a semi auto paintball pistol. Park some junk cars and targets in
a field. Wear your helemt of course and ride around the field shooting at the targets. Shouls be a good approximation of firing while cycling! On Jul 9, 1:17*pm, "DI" wrote: wrote in message ... I apologize if this sounds troll-ish, which it probably will, but it's really just curiosity combined with the desire to shut up some fellow friends. *I know some fellow (packing) riders who claim that if a car ever tried to run them over maliciously (not as big a stretch as you'd hope) they'd "shoot the driver dead" while riding. *Not stop-and- shoot, which has been clarified, but one-handed firing of the gun while still riding. *To me, this is ludicrous. *I have plenty of range time, including tactical (where the shooter is constantly moving, covering, rolling etc.) and find it's extremely difficult to be accurate shooting while on the move. *I think these guys watched too many ghetto-gangsta movies where people hold guns sideways and shoot out windows of moving cars. *I think I'd have trouble hitting a car at 100 yards while riding in a panic situation, much less the driver. *A couple guys I know fail to see that, and cite their accuracy at the range, while standing in a booth (sidenote: *even in this situation I'm a better shot than most of them). *Shooting from the weaver stance in a booth is a lot different than shooting while running, or coming up from a roll. *I'd like to arrange some sort of game to test my position against that of our friends. *The first thing that comes to mind is pellet guns or paintball guns in the woods, but the argument is begging to be made: *"Off-road is totally different, the bike bounces around way too much. *I meant from the pavement!). *Shooting anything from the street, even bb or paintball guns, is a problem. Anyone have any ideas where we may find a suitable area to fire from the bikes while riding on pavement? *Local (I'm in New England) or general apply-anywhere ideas welcome. *Note: *I'm not talking about firing the .357 while riding, which is their concept. *I'm trying to prove my point using something more low-key and safe such as pellet or paintball guns. Other common-sense arguments (i.e. when you miss you could hit an innocent bystander, a house, etc) are always met with nonsense (i.e. I'd only do it when there's nothing around but woods). Comments welcome. I have a concealed weapons license. *The law my State is very clear and that is if they are *running *away from you, you had *better not shoot because they are no longer a threat to *you. *You can only use the weapon when you are in immediate danger, and cannot use it as a threat. * So if you draw it you had better shoot to kill from the front. I carry a .38 pistol in my handle bar bag when riding in certain areas. Only once have I had any thought of going for it, but didn't.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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What was that really crappy movie, back in the '70s... Deathrace 2000,
maybe? It was like demo-derby with guns & cars. I could see guys on bikes playing paintball in the desert, I was kinda thinking skate-park, halfpipes, and stuff with team flags to capture, but yeah, w/e... built it and I will come if I can. |
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DennisTheBald wrote:
What was that really crappy movie, back in the '70s... Deathrace 2000, maybe? It was like demo-derby with guns & cars. ... No, it was about a cross-country race where time bonuses were awarded for every pedestrian a driver ran over. The "hand grenade" pun was awesome! -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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"DI" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... I apologize if this sounds troll-ish, which it probably will, but it's really just curiosity combined with the desire to shut up some fellow friends. I know some fellow (packing) riders who claim that if a car ever tried to run them over maliciously (not as big a stretch as you'd hope) they'd "shoot the driver dead" while riding. Not stop-and- shoot, which has been clarified, but one-handed firing of the gun while still riding. To me, this is ludicrous. I have plenty of range time, including tactical (where the shooter is constantly moving, covering, rolling etc.) and find it's extremely difficult to be accurate shooting while on the move. I think these guys watched too many ghetto-gangsta movies where people hold guns sideways and shoot out windows of moving cars. I think I'd have trouble hitting a car at 100 yards while riding in a panic situation, much less the driver. A couple guys I know fail to see that, and cite their accuracy at the range, while standing in a booth (sidenote: even in this situation I'm a better shot than most of them). Shooting from the weaver stance in a booth is a lot different than shooting while running, or coming up from a roll. I'd like to arrange some sort of game to test my position against that of our friends. The first thing that comes to mind is pellet guns or paintball guns in the woods, but the argument is begging to be made: "Off-road is totally different, the bike bounces around way too much. I meant from the pavement!). Shooting anything from the street, even bb or paintball guns, is a problem. Anyone have any ideas where we may find a suitable area to fire from the bikes while riding on pavement? Local (I'm in New England) or general apply-anywhere ideas welcome. Note: I'm not talking about firing the .357 while riding, which is their concept. I'm trying to prove my point using something more low-key and safe such as pellet or paintball guns. Other common-sense arguments (i.e. when you miss you could hit an innocent bystander, a house, etc) are always met with nonsense (i.e. I'd only do it when there's nothing around but woods). Comments welcome. I have a concealed weapons license. The law my State is very clear and that is if they are running away from you, you had better not shoot because they are no longer a threat to you. You can only use the weapon when you are in immediate danger, and cannot use it as a threat. So if you draw it you had better shoot to kill from the front. I carry a .38 pistol in my handle bar bag when riding in certain areas. Only once have I had any thought of going for it, but didn't. Wouldn't a hogleg be a better firearm for cycling? Why would you need more than 2 shots of 12 gauge to solve any cycling related difficulty anyway? The object is not to take on the entire neighborhood.. You could keep in a scabbard on the fork without harming the handling too much. It would not be concealed, but rather a thing of beauty accessory. Probably not make it through the first lap of the weekly crit race, but imagine the drooling at the coffee shop on Sunday morning. But, wait a minute, I see nothing about firearms in the USA Cycling rules. I bet you would be alright after all... Bruce There is some company that makes a phone carrier built into a waterbottle looking case. |
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In article ,
" writes: I apologize if this sounds troll-ish, which it probably will, but it's really just curiosity combined with the desire to shut up some fellow friends. I know some fellow (packing) riders who claim that if a car ever tried to run them over maliciously (not as big a stretch as you'd hope) they'd "shoot the driver dead" while riding. Not stop-and- shoot, which has been clarified, but one-handed firing of the gun while still riding. To me, this is ludicrous. I have plenty of range time, including tactical (where the shooter is constantly moving, covering, rolling etc.) and find it's extremely difficult to be accurate shooting while on the move. I think these guys watched too many ghetto-gangsta movies where people hold guns sideways and shoot out windows of moving cars. I think I'd have trouble hitting a car at 100 yards while riding in a panic situation, much less the driver. A couple guys I know fail to see that, and cite their accuracy at the range, while standing in a booth (sidenote: even in this situation I'm a better shot than most of them). Shooting from the weaver stance in a booth is a lot different than shooting while running, or coming up from a roll. I'd like to arrange some sort of game to test my position against that of our friends. The first thing that comes to mind is pellet guns or paintball guns in the woods, but the argument is begging to be made: "Off-road is totally different, the bike bounces around way too much. I meant from the pavement!). Shooting anything from the street, even bb or paintball guns, is a problem. Anyone have any ideas where we may find a suitable area to fire from the bikes while riding on pavement? Local (I'm in New England) or general apply-anywhere ideas welcome. Note: I'm not talking about firing the .357 while riding, which is their concept. I'm trying to prove my point using something more low-key and safe such as pellet or paintball guns. Other common-sense arguments (i.e. when you miss you could hit an innocent bystander, a house, etc) are always met with nonsense (i.e. I'd only do it when there's nothing around but woods). Comments welcome. During these Dog Days of summer, bicycle squirt gun "fights" can be great fun, as well as refreshing. This year I haven't yet had the opportunity to, on a hot day, get someone washing his/her car on the streetside to give me a blast from their garden hose as I ride by. Oh, the refreshment of it! Most people are politely obliging, but perhaps a li'l too inhibited to give me a real good shot. Motorcycle riders seem to know what I mean, though. Shooting accurately on the fly is tough. Since the heyday of Westerns, Hollywood has portrayed this endeavour a little too much. If you had some kind of rest rising from your bike's stem upon which to steady your iron, your chances of accuracy might be improved. Consider that tanks need computers to shoot accurately while on the fly. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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