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  #11  
Old May 26th 17, 04:02 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 6:27:21 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:15:25 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:35:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Discovery Channel's Daily Planet had an item on this yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzoakbBxm5g.

This version of the video shows a few additional applications for the
air bag helmet. For example, you never know when you might be tackled
by a football player while riding your bicycle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmkt6mg7mmM

Tested at Stanford:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg6yl7zbIz0

Lots of other videos on their YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIfiRXN-4CZsOTn0X0KCWJQ

One big obstacle might be the cost. US$540 in 2013:
http://newatlas.com/hovding-inflatable-airbag-collar-purchase/29828/
and US$335 in 2016:
http://www.popsci.com/airbags-for-cyclists-heads-examined-as-alternatives-to-helmets


Very much a matter of not seeing the forest for the trees.

After all, an auto inflation helmet only touches on one portion of the
bicycle safety problem. Head injuries form only a part of the range
off injuries that endanger a bicyclist.

The new "Body Bag", an all encompassing inflatable covering for the
bicyclist which automatically inflates in the event of an accident
will provide the cyclists with "all over" protection.

Yes! Development of the Body Bag (tm) is proceeding apace and we will
shortly be accepting pre-devolvement donations.

Presently we are working on the problem of decelerating which, while
not impinging on the safety of the bicyclist does present certain
difficulties in impeding the trajectory and absorbing kinetic energy
of the inflated Body Bag. However initial studies of a drogue type
devise, while not complete to date seems to present a probable
solution.

We wish to include mention of The Michelin Tire Company who provided
certain visual preconceptual assistance to the Body Bag development
team. http://tinyurl.com/yasztdk9


John,

I assure you first-hand that you are correct, having already developed and tested the product myself, annually, from 20 to 15 years ago. Although the breast piece is missing in this photo, when worn complete, the suit will allow the wearer to - for example - do a swan dive to the ground, and in the next instant be back on one's feet, none the worse for wear.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byk...R4bENlaFk/view

-dkl


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Old May 26th 17, 01:44 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Discovery Channel's Daily Planet had an item on
this yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzoakbBxm5g


I saw those first time 1-2 years ago. The ad
say they are much safer than ordinary helmets.

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Old May 26th 17, 02:49 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 5:44:07 AM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Discovery Channel's Daily Planet had an item on
this yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzoakbBxm5g


I saw those first time 1-2 years ago. The ad
say they are much safer than ordinary helmets.


Last year I had 3 crashes. One was a minor fall-over on a trail. Another was a end-for-end flip on a steep downhill and the third was that road bike ride into a stone wall at 25 mph or so. None of these would be considered "serious" though they sure felt like it at the time. Aside from minor bruises and scratches there was no real damage save to my ego.
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Old May 26th 17, 03:17 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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John B. wrote:

Very much a matter of not seeing the forest for the trees.

After all, an auto inflation helmet only touches on one portion of the
bicycle safety problem. Head injuries form only a part of the range
off injuries that endanger a bicyclist.

The new "Body Bag", an all encompassing inflatable covering for the
bicyclist which automatically inflates in the event of an accident
will provide the cyclists with "all over" protection.

Yes! Development of the Body Bag (tm) is proceeding apace and we will
shortly be accepting pre-devolvement donations.

Presently we are working on the problem of decelerating which, while
not impinging on the safety of the bicyclist does present certain
difficulties in impeding the trajectory and absorbing kinetic energy
of the inflated Body Bag. However initial studies of a drogue type
devise, while not complete to date seems to present a probable
solution.

We wish to include mention of The Michelin Tire Company who provided
certain visual preconceptual assistance to the Body Bag development
team. http://tinyurl.com/yasztdk9

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Cheers,

John B.



Has anybody else noticed that Bibendum is starting to look pretty buff
lately? He used to be quite the fat slob, with a big spare tire around the
midriff, but he's obviously been working out.

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Old May 26th 17, 03:52 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 5/26/2017 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 5:44:07 AM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Discovery Channel's Daily Planet had an item on
this yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzoakbBxm5g

I saw those first time 1-2 years ago. The ad
say they are much safer than ordinary helmets.


Last year I had 3 crashes. One was a minor fall-over on a trail. Another was a end-for-end flip on a steep downhill and the third was that road bike ride into a stone wall at 25 mph or so. None of these would be considered "serious" though they sure felt like it at the time. Aside from minor bruises and scratches there was no real damage save to my ego.


Yow. Tom, maybe you should take things a bit easier.

I'm averaging one mild to moderate on-road crash every 18 years. I'm
due for my next one about nine years from now, but I plan to be careful
enough to postpone that.

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Old May 26th 17, 04:22 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/26/2017 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 5:44:07 AM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Discovery Channel's Daily Planet had an item on
this yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzoakbBxm5g

I saw those first time 1-2 years ago. The ad
say they are much safer than ordinary helmets.


Last year I had 3 crashes. One was a minor fall-over on a trail. Another was a end-for-end flip on a steep downhill and the third was that road bike ride into a stone wall at 25 mph or so. None of these would be considered "serious" though they sure felt like it at the time. Aside from minor bruises and scratches there was no real damage save to my ego.


Yow. Tom, maybe you should take things a bit easier.

I'm averaging one mild to moderate on-road crash every 18 years. I'm
due for my next one about nine years from now, but I plan to be careful
enough to postpone that.


Remember that because of my concussion I have to relearn a lot of things. Especially what not to do. For awhile I didn't even know how to find my way to what used to be our most common stops. I couldn't go out without a group.. Now I've relearned a lot of the routes again and can venture out alone. But I can still get lost and I don't have much sense of direction now.
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Old May 26th 17, 06:35 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Fri, 26 May 2017 08:27:17 +0700, John B.
wrote:

Very much a matter of not seeing the forest for the trees.


I live in an overgrown forest. I use a quad copter to see the forest.

The new "Body Bag", an all encompassing inflatable covering for the
bicyclist which automatically inflates in the event of an accident
will provide the cyclists with "all over" protection.


I'm sorry, but you're too late. It's already on the market:
https://www.google.com/search?q=inflatable+crash+ball&tbm=isch

You might also consider a marine survival suit as a wearable air bag:
https://www.google.com/search?q=inflatable+immersion+suit&tbm=isch
https://archive.hnsa.org/doc/oberon/escape/img/fig014.jpg

Perhaps a more "armored" defense system would be better:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/oddities/slides/bricks.html
with an option for an "organic" cushion:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/oddities/slides/bush.html
or just improvise something from available components:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/oddities/slides/helmet.html


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Old May 26th 17, 08:15 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 10:35:02 AM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 26 May 2017 08:27:17 +0700, John B.
wrote:

Very much a matter of not seeing the forest for the trees.


I live in an overgrown forest. I use a quad copter to see the forest.

The new "Body Bag", an all encompassing inflatable covering for the
bicyclist which automatically inflates in the event of an accident
will provide the cyclists with "all over" protection.


I'm sorry, but you're too late. It's already on the market:
https://www.google.com/search?q=inflatable+crash+ball&tbm=isch

You might also consider a marine survival suit as a wearable air bag:
https://www.google.com/search?q=inflatable+immersion+suit&tbm=isch
https://archive.hnsa.org/doc/oberon/escape/img/fig014.jpg

Perhaps a more "armored" defense system would be better:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/oddities/slides/bricks.html
with an option for an "organic" cushion:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/oddities/slides/bush.html
or just improvise something from available components:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/oddities/slides/helmet.html


Can you see ANY frame bending on the guys frame carrying bricks? Even the front suspension isn't folded. But the rear tire is almost completely flat.
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Old May 26th 17, 09:00 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Doug Landau
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On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 10:35:02 AM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 26 May 2017 08:27:17 +0700, John B.
wrote:

Very much a matter of not seeing the forest for the trees.


I live in an overgrown forest. I use a quad copter to see the forest.

The new "Body Bag", an all encompassing inflatable covering for the
bicyclist which automatically inflates in the event of an accident
will provide the cyclists with "all over" protection.


I'm sorry, but you're too late. It's already on the market:
https://www.google.com/search?q=inflatable+crash+ball&tbm=isch


Not too late - these things are not standardized yet, and there are varying
types, and the bugs have not all been worked out yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5OVptEFSNo

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Old May 26th 17, 10:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/26/2017 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 5:44:07 AM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Discovery Channel's Daily Planet had an item on
this yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzoakbBxm5g

I saw those first time 1-2 years ago. The ad
say they are much safer than ordinary helmets.


Last year I had 3 crashes. One was a minor fall-over on a trail. Another was a end-for-end flip on a steep downhill and the third was that road bike ride into a stone wall at 25 mph or so. None of these would be considered "serious" though they sure felt like it at the time. Aside from minor bruises and scratches there was no real damage save to my ego.


Yow. Tom, maybe you should take things a bit easier.

I'm averaging one mild to moderate on-road crash every 18 years. I'm
due for my next one about nine years from now, but I plan to be careful
enough to postpone that.


TK definitely needs to reduce his frequency, particularly when it comes to hitting stone walls at 25mph. As one gets older, it's harder to shake-off that sort of thing. "It's just a flesh wound!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAW6D21ICdg

-- Jay Beattie.
 




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