UCI to shorten pro tours

UCI to shorten pro tours
(http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ep06/sep26news )

UCI is at it again with more silly proposals. UCI wants to shorten pro
tours to discourage drug use. This is one of the dumbest proposals I
have heard of. This reminds me of the UCI weight limitation regulations.

wrote:
UCI to shorten pro tours
(http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ep06/sep26news )

UCI is at it again with more silly proposals. UCI wants to shorten pro
tours to discourage drug use. This is one of the dumbest proposals I
have heard of. This reminds me of the UCI weight limitation regulations.

The 100 meter dash is a traditional hotbed of drug use. How short
are they willing to go?

Dan

In article ,
Dan Connelly wrote:

wrote:
UCI to shorten pro tours
(http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ep06/sep26news )

UCI is at it again with more silly proposals. UCI wants to shorten pro
tours to discourage drug use. This is one of the dumbest proposals I
have heard of. This reminds me of the UCI weight limitation regulations.

The 100 meter dash is a traditional hotbed of drug use. How short
are they willing to go?

Exactly - the Millar Line doesn't apply once the wheels are gone.

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remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:14:48 GMT, Dan Connelly
wrote:

wrote:
UCI to shorten pro tours
(http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ep06/sep26news )

UCI is at it again with more silly proposals. UCI wants to shorten pro
tours to discourage drug use. This is one of the dumbest proposals I
have heard of. This reminds me of the UCI weight limitation regulations.

The 100 meter dash is a traditional hotbed of drug use. How short
are they willing to go?

Dan

"Let's see, we'll take off 500 miles. That will make them go sl...oh.
wait..."

In article ,
Howard Kveck wrote:

In article ,
Dan Connelly wrote:

wrote:
UCI to shorten pro tours
(http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ep06/sep26news )

UCI is at it again with more silly proposals. UCI wants to shorten pro
tours to discourage drug use. This is one of the dumbest proposals I
have heard of. This reminds me of the UCI weight limitation regulations.

The 100 meter dash is a traditional hotbed of drug use. How short
are they willing to go?

Exactly - the Millar Line doesn't apply once the wheels are gone.

Well, no: if Millar beats you in a footrace, you're definitely clean.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Dan Connelly schrieb:

wrote:
UCI to shorten pro tours
(http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ep06/sep26news )

UCI is at it again with more silly proposals. UCI wants to shorten pro
tours to discourage drug use. This is one of the dumbest proposals I
have heard of. This reminds me of the UCI weight limitation regulations.

The 100 meter dash is a traditional hotbed of drug use. How short
are they willing to go?

Dan

0 (zero). No race, no dopers.
But I am not even sure that this would be true.

The true question is: who would benefit from shorter races?
Shortening the grand tours would open the UCI calendar for other races.
Shortening km's of classiques would decrease the importance of those
races compared to others.
It's all on the agenda of the UCI: Take away the power of ASO and
Gazette, etc and form a ProTour, controlled only by the UCI themselves.

At the same time, the UCI fails to see where the real problem is:
Smaller, but still fairly traditional races struggle to survive:
Milan-Torino, Paris-Nice, Romandie or TdSuisse, and all the one-day
races which dissapeared. Not talking about organizing _new_ races, U23
races, Women's, Junior's etc.
Shortening the surviving Big Guns will help nothing in this regard.
--
cy

The solution is to have a lifetime ban for any rider found positive of
drugs. Or a lifetime ban for any rider that is found be in posession of
these drugs. These are the only relevant factors that matter. All this
other rumor mongering about if a rider went to visit this doctor Fuente
others involved with doping is irrelevant.
Cyrus De Kline wrote:
Dan Connelly schrieb:

wrote:
UCI to shorten pro tours
(http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ep06/sep26news )

UCI is at it again with more silly proposals. UCI wants to shorten pro
tours to discourage drug use. This is one of the dumbest proposals I
have heard of. This reminds me of the UCI weight limitation regulations.

The 100 meter dash is a traditional hotbed of drug use. How short
are they willing to go?

Dan

0 (zero). No race, no dopers.
But I am not even sure that this would be true.

The true question is: who would benefit from shorter races?
Shortening the grand tours would open the UCI calendar for other races.
Shortening km's of classiques would decrease the importance of those
races compared to others.
It's all on the agenda of the UCI: Take away the power of ASO and
Gazette, etc and form a ProTour, controlled only by the UCI themselves.

At the same time, the UCI fails to see where the real problem is:
Smaller, but still fairly traditional races struggle to survive:
Milan-Torino, Paris-Nice, Romandie or TdSuisse, and all the one-day
races which dissapeared. Not talking about organizing _new_ races, U23
races, Women's, Junior's etc.
Shortening the surviving Big Guns will help nothing in this regard.
--
cy

On 28 Sep 2006 14:44:51 -0700, wrote:

The solution is to have a lifetime ban for any rider found positive of
drugs.

Makes sense. Positive for cortison to treat a bee sting - ban for
life.

Make a mistake with cough medecine. Ban for life.

Yeah, great.

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John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
On 28 Sep 2006 14:44:51 -0700, wrote:

The solution is to have a lifetime ban for any rider found positive of
drugs.

Makes sense. Positive for cortison to treat a bee sting - ban for
life.

Make a mistake with cough medecine. Ban for life.

Yeah, great.

Dude, you're not thinking big picture. Put him in a secret prison without
letting him be able to examine the charges against him, without access to
the courts, and with regular water-boarding until Dick Pound sez it's
okay. It's what we need in order to keep the cycling world safe.

In article .com,
"Cyrus De Kline" wrote:

Dan Connelly schrieb:

wrote:
UCI to shorten pro tours
(http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ep06/sep26news )

UCI is at it again with more silly proposals. UCI wants to shorten pro
tours to discourage drug use. This is one of the dumbest proposals I
have heard of. This reminds me of the UCI weight limitation regulations.

The 100 meter dash is a traditional hotbed of drug use. How short
are they willing to go?

Dan

0 (zero). No race, no dopers.
But I am not even sure that this would be true.

Given the amount of cheating that is assumed to have happened in Gran
Fondos, I'd say it definitely wouldn't be true.

The true question is: who would benefit from shorter races?
Shortening the grand tours would open the UCI calendar for other races.
Shortening km's of classiques would decrease the importance of those
races compared to others.
It's all on the agenda of the UCI: Take away the power of ASO and
Gazette, etc and form a ProTour, controlled only by the UCI themselves.

In fairness, it is some of the wackier commentators and riders who have
made the claim that the 3-week tours were all but impossible without
drugs.

At the same time, the UCI fails to see where the real problem is:
Smaller, but still fairly traditional races struggle to survive:
Milan-Torino, Paris-Nice, Romandie or TdSuisse, and all the one-day
races which dissapeared. Not talking about organizing _new_ races, U23
races, Women's, Junior's etc.
Shortening the surviving Big Guns will help nothing in this regard.

The UCI's overall goal is to reduce the power of the GT's organizing
bodies, because they're essentially the big obstacle to a UCI-controlled
ProTour.

Now, I remember when CART broke away from the Indy 500 (or vice versa),
and the lesson there was that the big race was more important than the
cars or drivers involved; the Indy 500 endured while the CARTistes waned.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos