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Getting over the mighty log (jumping that is)
"Trentus" wrote in message ... "Jon Bond" wrote in message t... snip Here's pretty much what I'm talking about snip http://pages.prodigy.com/CharlieB/log.htm My problem with this trick, is the fact that while learning it I'm almost certainly going to come a gutser at least a couple of dozen times, and I just aint that keen on falling onto a hard log, or off one even for that matter (strange I know) I get the concept, I just aint got the guts to go try it out. Just start small to get the timing down until it becomes committed to 'muscle memory'. Then bigger stuff really becomes a 'no brainer'. ;^) Mike |
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Getting over the mighty log (jumping that is)
Well it seems that there is pretty much a concensus on how to do this. So,
I'll to exactly what is suggested, by starting with small logs, and working my way up to larger ones. I don't have trouble with 6 inchers, so maybe, it would be good to start with them, just to get the motion down, and then move to bigger ones. Thanks for all the advice to everyone, I'll keep you all updated when I am finally able to clear a 6 foot tall redwood log. I'm thinking by as early as next week. :-) Oh, by the way, if anyone on here lives out in Missouri, specifically near Columbia, MO, and wouldn't mind riding sometime, I would enjoy it. There are of course, plenty of great trails all over the state, as long as it hasn't rained within the past few days. Thanks, Alan |
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Getting over the mighty log (jumping that is)
"Alan McClure" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:dPLKa.27339$Ab2.51798@sccrnsc01... So, when most of you come across a log on the trail--let's say it is 8-12 inches tall. Do You: 1) get off and carry your bike over More often than not, yes. 2) hop over it Sometimes, and if it is bigger than 6-8", I catch up on my chainring and it is not a pretty sight. 3)bunny hop over it Only the small stuff. 4)Other You see, out of all the obstacles I come across, this is the only one that consistently stumps me. I can get over them most of the time(especially when they are smaller--heheheh), but it never feels smooth(rear wheel bumps), sometimes I hit my chainring, and 1/3 of the time I fall or get stuck. I am so frustrated because I can't seem to figure out how to get over them easily after many, many times trying. Soooo, what do you all do when you see a log up ahead? And, what do you recommend me trying. I'll practice anything if it'll help. Thanks, Alan McClure I gots the same problem. -Dave |
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Getting over the mighty log (jumping that is)
Alan McClure wrote:
I don't have trouble with 6 inchers, so maybe, it would be good to start with them, just to get the motion down, and then move to bigger ones. My nomination for 'Freudian Post of the Month' award. -- a.m-b FAQ: http://www.t-online.de/~jharris/ambfaq.htm a.bmx FAQ: http://www.t-online.de/~jharris/bmx_faq.htm |
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Getting over the mighty log (jumping that is)
"Jon Bond" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
t... Approach log fairly slowly, but not superslow. Figure middle front, one of the three largest rear. Rock backwards on the bike, pulling the bar with you, and get the front wheel on the very top of the log. I have seen Charlie's webpage and I remember this tip. I know that in principle, I should not need strength to loft the front wheel. In practice I end up jerking the front up. Is there more to it? What are your legs doing? Is your butt moving horizontally or staying in place? Try to stay forward on the bike, over the bars, when you get to the log - if you're too far back, then you'll simply run right into the log with the rear wheel and fall. Ok, here's the important step - and its pretty hard to do without clipless. What you want to do is pull up the rear wheel and put it on top of the log. At the same time, you want to throw the front of the bike forwards and down. This is a VERY explosive move, you actually get both tires off the ground for a bit. Aha! This lift the back wheel up thing I can do smoothly. I will work on doing it directly following bring the front wheel up. If you really do it well, and have enough speed, you can actually clear the whole log this way. Usually, especially on bigger logs, you'll simply end up with the front wheel down on the ground, and the rear wheel on top. If you had the speed perfect, and do it right, then the wheel will come right off, and not even hit the top hard. If not, you can give a very small pedal stroke and just watch your balance. I suspect that I approach too slow. This might be part of my problem. Here's pretty much what I'm talking about, although Charlie doesn't quite get the rear wheel all the way on top. Give 'im some slack tho, he is in his mid 60s (and can still outpace me anyday, the guy's an animal!) http://pages.prodigy.com/CharlieB/log.htm Hope that helps. Jon Bond Thanks, -Dave |
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Getting over the mighty log (jumping that is)
"bomba" wrote in message ... Alan McClure wrote: I don't have trouble with 6 inchers, so maybe, it would be good to start with them, just to get the motion down, and then move to bigger ones. My nomination for 'Freudian Post of the Month' award. -- a.m-b FAQ: http://www.t-online.de/~jharris/ambfaq.htm a.bmx FAQ: http://www.t-online.de/~jharris/bmx_faq.htm Okay, I'll even second that one. Alan |
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Getting over the mighty log (jumping that is)
Alan McClure wrote:
Well it seems that there is pretty much a concensus on how to do this. So, I'll to exactly what is suggested, by starting with small logs, and working my way up to larger ones. I don't have trouble with 6 inchers, so maybe, it would be good to start with them, just to get the motion down, and then move to bigger ones. Thanks for all the advice to everyone, I'll keep you all updated when I am finally able to clear a 6 foot tall redwood log. I'm thinking by as early as next week. :-) Oh, by the way, if anyone on here lives out in Missouri, specifically near Columbia, MO, and wouldn't mind riding sometime, I would enjoy it. There are of course, plenty of great trails all over the state, as long as it hasn't rained within the past few days. Thanks, Alan Hey Alan, Have you done Berryman Trail recently? Would be interested to know what kind of condition it is in. -- J'm To Reply Direct, Remove Clothes. ....-.- |
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Getting over the mighty log (jumping that is)
"J'm Sm'th" wrote in message ... Alan McClure wrote: Well it seems that there is pretty much a concensus on how to do this. So, I'll to exactly what is suggested, by starting with small logs, and working my way up to larger ones. I don't have trouble with 6 inchers, so maybe, it would be good to start with them, just to get the motion down, and then move to bigger ones. Thanks for all the advice to everyone, I'll keep you all updated when I am finally able to clear a 6 foot tall redwood log. I'm thinking by as early as next week. :-) Oh, by the way, if anyone on here lives out in Missouri, specifically near Columbia, MO, and wouldn't mind riding sometime, I would enjoy it. There are of course, plenty of great trails all over the state, as long as it hasn't rained within the past few days. Thanks, Alan Hey Alan, Have you done Berryman Trail recently? Would be interested to know what kind of condition it is in. -- J'm To Reply Direct, Remove Clothes. ...-.- Nope, actually, I'm gonna try to make it out to St. Louis and St. Charles this weekend, but I haven't made it any further south than Binder Lake in Jefferson City yet this season. So, I'm thinking I'll try in the next couple of weeks. I'm gonna try to get an idea about it by talking to some people in St. Louis. I'll let you know what I find out. Alan |
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Getting over the mighty log (jumping that is)
"Dave Stocker" wrote in message ... "Jon Bond" schrieb im Newsbeitrag t... Approach log fairly slowly, but not superslow. Figure middle front, one of the three largest rear. Rock backwards on the bike, pulling the bar with you, and get the front wheel on the very top of the log. I have seen Charlie's webpage and I remember this tip. I know that in principle, I should not need strength to loft the front wheel. In practice I end up jerking the front up. Is there more to it? What are your legs doing? Is your butt moving horizontally or staying in place? Basically, if you can get the front wheel up while your body is still forward over the bars (so you have room to push out and down), then you're good. Try to stay forward on the bike, over the bars, when you get to the log - if you're too far back, then you'll simply run right into the log with the rear wheel and fall. Ok, here's the important step - and its pretty hard to do without clipless. What you want to do is pull up the rear wheel and put it on top of the log. At the same time, you want to throw the front of the bike forwards and down. This is a VERY explosive move, you actually get both tires off the ground for a bit. Aha! This lift the back wheel up thing I can do smoothly. I will work on doing it directly following bring the front wheel up. If you really do it well, and have enough speed, you can actually clear the whole log this way. Usually, especially on bigger logs, you'll simply end up with the front wheel down on the ground, and the rear wheel on top. If you had the speed perfect, and do it right, then the wheel will come right off, and not even hit the top hard. If not, you can give a very small pedal stroke and just watch your balance. I suspect that I approach too slow. This might be part of my problem. I've gotten to the point where if I can get the front wheel on, I can actually stop, do a hop to line myself up (read: keep myself from falling sideways), then do the lunge forward onto rear wheel thing. I wouldn't do it this way by choice, but I've had to do it on a 6" log 8" in the air when the guy in front of me on a group ride flubbed it. You don't need much speed, if you lunge hard enough, the bike gets a good deal of momentum that way. If you can get the rear wheel onto the very very top of the log, then the bike will either roll off, or just a little bit of a pedal stroke will do it for you - just get that wheel up there, then you're golden! Here's pretty much what I'm talking about, although Charlie doesn't quite get the rear wheel all the way on top. Give 'im some slack tho, he is in his mid 60s (and can still outpace me anyday, the guy's an animal!) http://pages.prodigy.com/CharlieB/log.htm Hope that helps. Jon Bond Thanks, -Dave No problemo. Like I said, as soon as I have a mountain bike, and get used to the full suspension timing, I'll take video of it on both small and large logs, and post it up. Should help a bunch of people. Jon "The log hoppa" Bond |
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Getting over the mighty log (jumping that is)
So, when most of you come across a log on the trail--let's say it is 8-12 inches tall. Do You: 1) get off and carry your bike over 2) hop over it 3)bunny hop over it 4)Other You see, out of all the obstacles I come across, this is the only one that consistently stumps me. I can get over them most of the time(especially when they are smaller--heheheh), but it never feels smooth(rear wheel bumps), sometimes I hit my chainring, and 1/3 of the time I fall or get stuck. I am so frustrated because I can't seem to figure out how to get over them easily after many, many times trying. Soooo, what do you all do when you see a log up ahead? And, what do you recommend me trying. I'll practice anything if it'll help. Thanks, Alan McClure Lotsa good advice so far, but I'm surprised no one has suggested the cyclocross approach. 1) Approach the log at pretty high speed. (Middle ring, halfway down the cassette) 2) Clip out your right foot and swing your right leg around to the left side of your bike. 3) Pass your right foot between your left leg and the frame, clip out your left foot at the same time. 4) Hit the ground running fast. Hoist your bike up onto your shoulder in the same motion as jumping off. 5) Run/jump over the log 6) Get the bike off your shoulder and onto the ground, still running alongside 7) Leap back on without breaking stride. 8) Sprint away, leaving the guys who slowed down to ride over it in your dust. Cheers, -Andrew |
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