Help needed!!! What kind of group is this? ~20yr Bianchi bike, Campa group.

I bought this beautiful oldtimer bianchi road bike about a year ago.
It has written the name Record 920 on the frame.
I liked it so much, I took it from Germany to the US when I went there
to write my thesis.
On the way back Delta damaged the gear group in the back.

Before I can start looking for the replacement part I'd need to know
what type/year the campagnolo group is.

Pictures are posted he


http://www.physik.tu-berlin.de/~mxhf...WWW/index.html


I guess it is about 20 years old. There are no catalogs online for such
old parts.
Does anybody know, or know where to start looking, or know where to get
parts even?

I tried shops, I tried Bianchi, I tried ebay.... i think I tried the
obvious things.


Max

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Before I can start looking for the replacement part I'd need to know
what type/year the campagnolo group is.

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Max

Not sure about the mech, but the cranks look like Victory (these polish
up very nicely, FYI)

SYJ

SYJ wrote:

wrote:
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Before I can start looking for the replacement part I'd need to know
what type/year the campagnolo group is.


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Max


Not sure about the mech, but the cranks look like Victory (these polish
up very nicely, FYI)

SYJ


Yeah, definitely Victory or Triomphe for the crank and ders, Victory
cranks had a self-extractor, Triomphe had a dust cap and required a
crank tool. V and T pedals though were triangular platforms so those
are different - brake levers look different too but maybe someone just
changed the hoods. Triomphe levers had "Campagnolo" in kind of a script
engraved on them, not sure about Victory. Mine's now my keychain.
Short-lived entry-level gruppi, 1984-1986 or so.

Maybe check campyonly.com for more photos.

Diablo Scott wrote:

Yeah, definitely Victory or Triomphe for the crank and ders, Victory
cranks had a self-extractor,

The crank has a self-extractor, so it's probably all Victory. Second
(?) lowest in that era's Campy line, lowest being Triomphe.

From the looks of the rear derailleur, I'd suspect that the cast stop
on the rear derailleur has been sheared off. This pictu
http://www.physik.tu-berlin.de/~mxhf...s/img_4729.jpg
shows an intact stop on the derailleur hanger, so a replacement is in
order. IIRC, this was a weak point of these derailleurs. I could be
worng, though- those are 17-year-old memories, and I ain't getting any
younger.

Jeff

Hi Jeff,

thank you!

I assume the cast stop is this little ring with the thing sticking out
which pushes against the little knob shown in that picture?
The "thing" broke off that ring.

Any idea where I could get a cast stop?

Max


JeffWills wrote:
Diablo Scott wrote:

Yeah, definitely Victory or Triomphe for the crank and ders, Victory
cranks had a self-extractor,

The crank has a self-extractor, so it's probably all Victory. Second
(?) lowest in that era's Campy line, lowest being Triomphe.

From the looks of the rear derailleur, I'd suspect that the cast stop
on the rear derailleur has been sheared off. This pictu
http://www.physik.tu-berlin.de/~mxhf...s/img_4729.jpg
shows an intact stop on the derailleur hanger, so a replacement is in
order. IIRC, this was a weak point of these derailleurs. I could be
worng, though- those are 17-year-old memories, and I ain't getting any
younger.

Jeff

Hi Jeff,

thank you!

I assume the cast stop is this little ring with the thing sticking out
which pushes against the little knob shown in that picture?
The "thing" broke off that ring.

Any idea where I could get a cast stop?

Max


JeffWills wrote:
Diablo Scott wrote:

Yeah, definitely Victory or Triomphe for the crank and ders, Victory
cranks had a self-extractor,

The crank has a self-extractor, so it's probably all Victory. Second
(?) lowest in that era's Campy line, lowest being Triomphe.

From the looks of the rear derailleur, I'd suspect that the cast stop
on the rear derailleur has been sheared off. This pictu
http://www.physik.tu-berlin.de/~mxhf...s/img_4729.jpg
shows an intact stop on the derailleur hanger, so a replacement is in
order. IIRC, this was a weak point of these derailleurs. I could be
worng, though- those are 17-year-old memories, and I ain't getting any
younger.

Jeff

wrote:

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On the way back Delta damaged the gear group in the back.

Before I can start looking for the replacement part I'd need to know
what type/year the campagnolo group is.

-snip-

Are you sure that the rear derailleur is damaged?
Could it be that just the derailleur hanger is bent?
Is your purpose to totally restore it to new condition?
If not, you can use a newer & probably superior derailleur for less
money.
Also, I could be mistaken, but the chain appears too long. If it is too
long, it will shift better when shortened to the correct length.

My $0.02, Good luck, John

On 20 Jul 2006 15:39:23 -0700, "john" wrote:




Also, I could be mistaken, but the chain appears too long. If it is too
long, it will shift better when shortened to the correct length.

My $0.02, Good luck, John

I don't think the chain is too long. from some of the pictures, it
would be just as possible to say the chain is too short. Also, not the
case. Obviously something changed, during shipping. Whether the
derailleur itself is damaged or the hanger, or just an adjustment,
hard to tell.

For the OP, have you taken it to a shop and asked them? It may be
something simple.


Life is Good!
Jeff

john wrote:
Is your purpose to totally restore it to new condition?
If not, you can use a newer & probably superior derailleur for less
money.


I agree in principle, but a modern derailleur might have to be modified
slightly to work with his wide chain. It looks like he's got a 7-speed
system. Also, if his shifters are friction rather than indexed, his
choice of derailleur would be greater (Shimano, Sun Tour, etc. as well
as Campy).

Art Harris

"Art Harris" wrote in news:1153484089.115931.111950
@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

john wrote:
Is your purpose to totally restore it to new condition?
If not, you can use a newer & probably superior derailleur for less
money.


I agree in principle, but a modern derailleur might have to be modified
slightly to work with his wide chain. It looks like he's got a 7-speed
system. Also, if his shifters are friction rather than indexed, his
choice of derailleur would be greater (Shimano, Sun Tour, etc. as well
as Campy).


FWIW, when I went Triple, I replaced my mid-'80s Sachs-Huret New Success
rear with a long cage 9-speed Veloce. Worked fine with a Suntour New Winner
Ultra-7 and a SRAM PC58 chain, with Rivendell Silver bar-ends.

I've since gone indexed and am running all-Veloce.