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Tom Keats wrote:
In article , "Edward Dolan" writes: Ed Dolan the Great is here merely to keep the place cleansed of liberal scofflaws. Saint Edward the Great only shows up when moral matters are broached. He is a Great Saint and has no tolerance for sinful thoughts, words or deeds here on ARBR. Y'mean like daring to ride a /real/ bicycle? Y'know what? I've heard of women recumbent riders, but I've never seen any. Whuzzup with that? The percentage of women recumbent riders is about the same as women club riders, invitational riders and racers (at least here in the Upper Midwest) - that is, rather low. I see lots o' women riding normal bikes. Sometimes I even get to socially interact with them, in a "small talk" sort of way -- usually at stoplines & stoplights. Many women get tired of being "hit on", so I never initiate the conversation while riding, unless it is someone I already know. But the few recumbent riders I encounter are always men, and they don't wanna talk to anybody. I dunno if they're antisocial, or just too embarrassed to talk to anybody. Or maybe they're just a bunch of shy, underconfident nerds? Many upright riders would rather pretend that recumbents do not exist, so I will not hinder their attempt (in real life - Usenet is different). N.b. to Jobst Brandt. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia "the grinning buddy bear carries a fork." - g.d. |
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Tom Sherman writes: I see lots o' women riding normal bikes. Sometimes I even get to socially interact with them, in a "small talk" sort of way -- usually at stoplines & stoplights. Many women get tired of being "hit on", so I never initiate the conversation while riding, unless it is someone I already know. It's not a matter of hitting on anybody. The women are often the conversation initiators. I guess it's just the typical gregariousness of cyclists at play. And my main bike is quite identifiable, so I guess I'm getting to be a known quantity and a familiar sight on Vancouver streets. But the few recumbent riders I encounter are always men, and they don't wanna talk to anybody. I dunno if they're antisocial, or just too embarrassed to talk to anybody. Or maybe they're just a bunch of shy, underconfident nerds? Many upright riders would rather pretend that recumbents do not exist, so I will not hinder their attempt (in real life - Usenet is different). N.b. to Jobst Brandt. I "get" that it's the other way around -- the local recumbent riders here are off in their own private Idahos, and seem to turn their noses up at upright riders. But I guess that's only natural, since we tower over 'em :-) Maybe if I attended a CM ride I could get to meet & socialize with some recumbent riders. Maybe even some women recumbent riders. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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still just me wrote:
Well, it is possible to have a conversation and not "hit on" a woman. You can also have a conversation and find out if you have anything in common and then just ask someone if they want to meet you for coffee or whatever. That's not "hitting", it's just "meeting". They accept or decline, life goes on. Or (sorry if this sounds a bit radical...) you could just exchange greetings and minor pleasantries of the sort that just oil the world on its way, irrespective of the sex of the other rider! You could think of the other rider as "person on bike" rather than "man" or "woman"... Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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"still just me" wrote
'bent riders are at the wrong height to converse, Perhaps a low racer recumbent side-by-side with an 'ordinary' might present a challenge to easily audible exchanges. But for less extreme combinations, many of us manage conversation quite well while riding in "mixed" groups of uprights and recumbents... I'm not a "frame-ist." Some of my best friends ride uprights... %^) Jon |
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Jon Meineke wrote:
"still just me" wrote 'bent riders are at the wrong height to converse, Perhaps a low racer recumbent side-by-side with an 'ordinary' might present a challenge to easily audible exchanges.... butbutbut, I want to know what the weather is like up there! -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia "the grinning buddy bear carries a fork." - g.d. |
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marika who? wrote:
"still just me" wrote in message ... That would prevent me from hitting on the women! of all people how's are they different from any other cranks... Speaking of cranks, I am thinking of trying some in the 150-155 mm length range on one of my bicycles. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter |
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... marika who? wrote: "still just me" wrote in message ... That would prevent me from hitting on the women! of all people how's are they different from any other cranks... Speaking of cranks, I am thinking of trying some in the 150-155 mm length range on one of my bicycles. Wow, and I thought *I* was short! |
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"Resound" wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote Speaking of cranks, I am thinking of trying some in the 150-155 mm length range on one of my bicycles. Wow, and I thought *I* was short! It's an error to conclude anything about Tom's height from his crank length. Short cranks are rather useful when the BB is infront of the hips instead of below. Faster speed but lower torque can result in similar power output but with less strain on the joints. Ted -- Ted Bennett |
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Ted Bennett wrote:
"Resound" wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote Speaking of cranks, I am thinking of trying some in the 150-155 mm length range on one of my bicycles. Wow, and I thought *I* was short! It's an error to conclude anything about Tom's height from his crank length. Short cranks are rather useful when the BB is infront of the hips instead of below. Faster speed but lower torque can result in similar power output but with less strain on the joints. Exactly! At least many recumbent riders report preferring shorter cranks on a recumbent than they would want on an upright. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter |
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Ted Bennett wrote: "Resound" wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote Speaking of cranks, I am thinking of trying some in the 150-155 mm length range on one of my bicycles. Wow, and I thought *I* was short! It's an error to conclude anything about Tom's height from his crank length. Short cranks are rather useful when the BB is infront of the hips instead of below. Faster speed but lower torque can result in similar power output but with less strain on the joints. Exactly! At least many recumbent riders report preferring shorter cranks on a recumbent than they would want on an upright. Too much spin, no forward motion; not enough spin, also no forward motion. Get it right or get lost! Mr. Sherman is frequently exact about many things, but that has never prevented him from being wrong about everything. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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