DfT stats reveal nearly 70 per cent of lorries break 40mph limit

Reminds me of a recent incident when some knob driving a truck tried to
overtake me as I was doing 50 mph.

QUOTE:
A staggering 83 per cent of lorries are driven at speeds in excess of the
50mph speed limit on dual carriageways in non-built up areas, and 69 per
cent on similarly designated single carriageway roads, where a 40mph limit
applies, according to new data from the Department for Transport (DfT).
However, on motorways, few lorries were found to break the speed limit of
60mph applicable to them on those roads, attributed by the DfT to the fact
they are fitted with speed limiters.

The figures, contained in the DfT's Transport Statistics Great Britain:
2011, also showed that on single carriageway roads, some 18 per cent of
lorries travelled at speeds of 10mph above the relevant speed limit.

The news comes at a time when the safety of cyclists sharing the road with
lorries has come under the spotlight in London in particular following a
string of fatalities in recent months; nine of the 16 cyclists killed in the
capital this year died in collisions with lorries.

While road design at junctions rather than speeding is the focus of
campaigners' attention in London, national cyclists' organisation CTC
maintains that speeding lorries not only pose a danger to cyclists - it says
that while they represent 5 per cent of traffic, they are responsible for 19
per cent of fatalities of bike riders - they are also hugely intimidating.

Last month, a jury at Swansea Crown Court acquitted a lorry driver from
causing the death by careless driving of 20-year-old Olin Poulson from
Carmartenshire. The court had heard that the lorry had been travelling at
55mph on a road that had a limit of 40mph, with the vehicle's speed dropping
slightly to 52mph at the time of impact.

According to the DfT, "Very few rigid and articulated HGVs exceeded their
speed limit of 60 mph on motorways, as they are fitted with speed
limiters" - which is another way of saying that taking away drivers' ability
to break the speed limit in the first place is arguably the easiest way of
ensuring that they keep within it.


http://road.cc/content/news/49262-df...ak-40mph-limit

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Simon Mason

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
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Reminds me of a recent incident when some knob driving a truck tried to
overtake me as I was doing 50 mph.

QUOTE:
A staggering 83 per cent of lorries are driven at speeds in excess of the
50mph speed limit on dual carriageways in non-built up areas, and 69 per
cent on similarly designated single carriageway roads, where a 40mph limit
applies, according to new data from the Department for Transport (DfT).
However, on motorways, few lorries were found to break the speed limit of
60mph applicable to them on those roads, attributed by the DfT to the fact
they are fitted with speed limiters.

The figures, contained in the DfT's Transport Statistics Great Britain:
2011, also showed that on single carriageway roads, some 18 per cent of
lorries travelled at speeds of 10mph above the relevant speed limit.

The news comes at a time when the safety of cyclists sharing the road with
lorries has come under the spotlight in London in particular following a
string of fatalities in recent months; nine of the 16 cyclists killed in the
capital this year died in collisions with lorries.

While road design at junctions rather than speeding is the focus of
campaigners' attention in London, national cyclists' organisation CTC
maintains that speeding lorries not only pose a danger to cyclists - it says
that while they represent 5 per cent of traffic, they are responsible for 19
per cent of fatalities of bike riders - they are also hugely intimidating.

Last month, a jury at Swansea Crown Court acquitted a lorry driver from
causing the death by careless driving of 20-year-old Olin Poulson from
Carmartenshire. The court had heard that the lorry had been travelling at
55mph on a road that had a limit of 40mph, with the vehicle's speed dropping
slightly to 52mph at the time of impact.

According to the DfT, "Very few rigid and articulated HGVs exceeded their
speed limit of 60 mph on motorways, as they are fitted with speed
limiters" - which is another way of saying that taking away drivers' ability
to break the speed limit in the first place is arguably the easiest way of
ensuring that they keep within it.


http://road.cc/content/news/49262-df...ak-40mph-limit

--
Simon Mason

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
According to the DfT, "Very few rigid and articulated HGVs exceeded their
speed limit of 60 mph on motorways, as they are fitted with speed
limiters" - which is another way of saying that taking away drivers'
ability to break the speed limit in the first place is arguably the
easiest way of ensuring that they keep within it.

It doesn't stop the selfish gits trying to overtake each other for miles on
end on the motorways though does it?

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Simon Mason

On Dec 17, 3:27*am, "Simon Mason"
wrote:
Reminds me of a recent incident when some knob driving a truck tried to
overtake me as I was doing 50 mph.

His was bigger.


QUOTE:
A staggering 83 per cent of lorries are driven at speeds in excess of the
50mph speed limit on dual carriageways in non-built up areas, and 69 per
cent on similarly designated single carriageway roads, where a 40mph limit
applies, according to new data from the Department for Transport (DfT).
However, on motorways, few lorries were found to break the speed limit of
60mph applicable to them on those roads, attributed by the DfT to the fact
they are fitted with speed limiters.

The figures, contained in the DfT's Transport Statistics Great Britain:
2011, also showed that on single carriageway roads, some 18 per cent of
lorries travelled at speeds of 10mph above the relevant speed limit.

The news comes at a time when the safety of cyclists sharing the road with
lorries has come under the spotlight in London in particular following a
string of fatalities in recent months; nine of the 16 cyclists killed in the
capital this year died in collisions with lorries.

While road design at junctions rather than speeding is the focus of
campaigners' attention in London, national cyclists' organisation CTC
maintains that speeding lorries not only pose a danger to cyclists - it says
that while they represent 5 per cent of traffic, they are responsible for 19
per cent of fatalities of bike riders - they are also hugely intimidating..

Last month, a jury at Swansea Crown Court acquitted a lorry driver from
causing the death by careless driving of 20-year-old Olin Poulson from
Carmartenshire. The court had heard that the lorry had been travelling at
55mph on a road that had a limit of 40mph, with the vehicle's speed dropping
slightly to 52mph at the time of impact.

According to the DfT, "Very few rigid and articulated HGVs exceeded their
speed limit of 60 mph on motorways, as they are fitted with speed
limiters" - which is another way of saying that taking away drivers' ability
to break the speed limit in the first place is arguably the easiest way of
ensuring that they keep within it.

http://road.cc/content/news/49262-df...ly-70-cent-lor...

--
Simon Mason

"Mr. Benn" wrote in message
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"Simon Mason" wrote in message
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Reminds me of a recent incident when some knob driving a truck tried to
overtake me as I was doing 50 mph.

QUOTE:
A staggering 83 per cent of lorries are driven at speeds in excess of the
50mph speed limit on dual carriageways in non-built up areas, and 69 per
cent on similarly designated single carriageway roads, where a 40mph limit
applies, according to new data from the Department for Transport (DfT).
However, on motorways, few lorries were found to break the speed limit of
60mph applicable to them on those roads, attributed by the DfT to the fact
they are fitted with speed limiters.

The figures, contained in the DfT's Transport Statistics Great Britain:
2011, also showed that on single carriageway roads, some 18 per cent of
lorries travelled at speeds of 10mph above the relevant speed limit.

The news comes at a time when the safety of cyclists sharing the road with
lorries has come under the spotlight in London in particular following a
string of fatalities in recent months; nine of the 16 cyclists killed in
the
capital this year died in collisions with lorries.

While road design at junctions rather than speeding is the focus of
campaigners' attention in London, national cyclists' organisation CTC
maintains that speeding lorries not only pose a danger to cyclists - it
says
that while they represent 5 per cent of traffic, they are responsible for
19
per cent of fatalities of bike riders - they are also hugely intimidating.

Last month, a jury at Swansea Crown Court acquitted a lorry driver from
causing the death by careless driving of 20-year-old Olin Poulson from
Carmartenshire. The court had heard that the lorry had been travelling at
55mph on a road that had a limit of 40mph, with the vehicle's speed
dropping
slightly to 52mph at the time of impact.

According to the DfT, "Very few rigid and articulated HGVs exceeded their
speed limit of 60 mph on motorways, as they are fitted with speed
limiters" - which is another way of saying that taking away drivers'
ability
to break the speed limit in the first place is arguably the easiest way of
ensuring that they keep within it.


http://road.cc/content/news/49262-df...ak-40mph-limit

--
Simon Mason

If you consider the detail on www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15975564 then scroll
down the page until you get to 'Dangerous Driving'. It is little wonder
lorry drivers break the law.

White van man and lorry drivers are top of the pops for motoring offences
but the data analysis also links the same groups to those with a criminal
record. Seems a surprise to note 35% of the cyclists have criminal records
too !!



Gio




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On 17/12/2011 09:54, thirty-six wrote:
On Dec 17, 3:27 am, "Simon
wrote:
Reminds me of a recent incident when some knob driving a truck tried to
overtake me as I was doing 50 mph.

His was bigger.

Don't be silly. Nobody is a bigger knob than Mason...


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legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
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"Simon Mason" wrote in message
According to the DfT, "Very few rigid and articulated HGVs exceeded their
speed limit of 60 mph on motorways, as they are fitted with speed
limiters" - which is another way of saying that taking away drivers'
ability to break the speed limit in the first place is arguably the
easiest way of ensuring that they keep within it.

It doesn't stop the selfish gits trying to overtake each other for miles
on end on the motorways though does it?

--
Simon Mason

A poster called Cargo Girl explained this on a thread a while ago.
It seems that the despatches time each run too tightly and leave little room
for delays.
A few minutes can mean all the difference between the driver running out of
hours, spending the night sleeping in the cab or getting home.
And I don't like being stuck behind a HGV and blinded by spray in the pitch
black any more than you do.

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:21:32 -0000, "Gio" wrote:

White van man and lorry drivers are top of the pops for motoring offences
but the data analysis also links the same groups to those with a criminal
record.

True, but there are a lot more regulations covering goods vehicle
drivers and tachograph regulations in particular used to be
ridiculously complex.

Guy
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On 17/12/2011 14:16, Mr Pounder wrote:
"Simon wrote in message
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"Simon wrote in message
According to the DfT, "Very few rigid and articulated HGVs exceeded their
speed limit of 60 mph on motorways, as they are fitted with speed
limiters" - which is another way of saying that taking away drivers'
ability to break the speed limit in the first place is arguably the
easiest way of ensuring that they keep within it.

It doesn't stop the selfish gits trying to overtake each other for miles
on end on the motorways though does it?

--
Simon Mason

A poster called Cargo Girl explained this on a thread a while ago.
It seems that the despatches time each run too tightly and leave little room
for delays.
A few minutes can mean all the difference between the driver running out of
hours, spending the night sleeping in the cab or getting home.

In that case, they should keep a couple of clean sheets, a blanket or quilt
and a couple of pillows, as well as a change of clothing in the lorry at all
times.

And I don't like being stuck behind a HGV and blinded by spray in the pitch
black any more than you do.

Quite. And there's no good reason why you should have to. If they gave a
legitimate gripe at all, it's with someone else entirely.

On Dec 17, 1:21*pm, "Gio" wrote:
"Mr. Benn" wrote in message

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"Simon Mason" *wrote in message
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Reminds me of a recent incident when some knob driving a truck tried to
overtake me as I was doing 50 mph.

QUOTE:
A staggering 83 per cent of lorries are driven at speeds in excess of the
50mph speed limit on dual carriageways in non-built up areas, and 69 per
cent on similarly designated single carriageway roads, where a 40mph limit
applies, according to new data from the Department for Transport (DfT).
However, on motorways, few lorries were found to break the speed limit of
60mph applicable to them on those roads, attributed by the DfT to the fact
they are fitted with speed limiters.

The figures, contained in the DfT's Transport Statistics Great Britain:
2011, also showed that on single carriageway roads, some 18 per cent of
lorries travelled at speeds of 10mph above the relevant speed limit.

The news comes at a time when the safety of cyclists sharing the road with
lorries has come under the spotlight in London in particular following a
string of fatalities in recent months; nine of the 16 cyclists killed in
the
capital this year died in collisions with lorries.

While road design at junctions rather than speeding is the focus of
campaigners' attention in London, national cyclists' organisation CTC
maintains that speeding lorries not only pose a danger to cyclists - it
says
that while they represent 5 per cent of traffic, they are responsible for
19
per cent of fatalities of bike riders - they are also hugely intimidating.

Last month, a jury at Swansea Crown Court acquitted a lorry driver from
causing the death by careless driving of 20-year-old Olin Poulson from
Carmartenshire. The court had heard that the lorry had been travelling at
55mph on a road that had a limit of 40mph, with the vehicle's speed
dropping
slightly to 52mph at the time of impact.

According to the DfT, "Very few rigid and articulated HGVs exceeded their
speed limit of 60 mph on motorways, as they are fitted with speed
limiters" - which is another way of saying that taking away drivers'
ability
to break the speed limit in the first place is arguably the easiest way of
ensuring that they keep within it.

http://road.cc/content/news/49262-df...ly-70-cent-lor...

--
Simon Mason

If you consider the detail on *www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15975564*then scroll
down the page until you get to 'Dangerous Driving'. *It is little wonder
lorry drivers break the law.

White van man and lorry drivers are top of the pops for motoring offences


I would have thought that with all of that extra training that they
would be examplars of perfect driving.
It would seem not.

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Simon Mason