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Old September 19th 08, 09:56 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
wafflycat[_2_]
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In my current duties as chauffeur for Mr Wafflycat, I did Cambridge & back
yesterday. Coming out of town towards the A14, driving along the Newmarket
Road to the RAB with Wadloes Road, is this horror of a farcility.

http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=caridge&countryCode=GB#map=52.21234,0.1626|20| 256&be=4260001|North&loc=GB:52.20273:0.13072:14|ca mbridge|Cambridge,%20Cambridgeshire,%20England,%20 CB1%201

or

http://tinyurl.com/3zq2u2

The farcility gets cycle lanes/general road lanes crossing again, where a
cyclist wanting to go straight on is placed in what appears to be direct
conflict of motorised transport wanting to turn left. I didn't like it as a
motorist and I would not be happy on it as a cyclist.

What's the experience of urc Cambridge cyclists on this one?

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Old September 19th 08, 10:01 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Clinch
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wafflycat wrote:
In my current duties as chauffeur for Mr Wafflycat, I did Cambridge &
back yesterday. Coming out of town towards the A14, driving along the
Newmarket Road to the RAB with Wadloes Road, is this horror of a farcility.

http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=caridge&countryCode=GB#map=52.21234,0.1626|20| 256&be=4260001|North&loc=GB:52.20273:0.13072:14|ca mbridge|Cambridge,%20Cambridgeshire,%20England,%20 CB1%201


http://tinyurl.com/3zq2u2


Errr, that's on the M4 west of Reading when I follow the links...

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Old September 19th 08, 10:07 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Fox[_5_]
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Peter Clinch wrote:
Errr, that's on the M4 west of Reading when I follow the links...

Pete.

I get Cambridge

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Old September 19th 08, 10:14 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
wafflycat[_2_]
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"Peter Clinch" wrote in message
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wafflycat wrote:
In my current duties as chauffeur for Mr Wafflycat, I did Cambridge &
back yesterday. Coming out of town towards the A14, driving along the
Newmarket Road to the RAB with Wadloes Road, is this horror of a
farcility.

http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=caridge&countryCode=GB#map=52.21234,0.1626|20| 256&be=4260001|North&loc=GB:52.20273:0.13072:14|ca mbridge|Cambridge,%20Cambridgeshire,%20England,%20 CB1%201


http://tinyurl.com/3zq2u2


Errr, that's on the M4 west of Reading when I follow the links...

Pete.


I get Cambridge.

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Old September 19th 08, 10:15 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Clinch
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Peter Fox wrote:
Peter Clinch wrote:
Errr, that's on the M4 west of Reading when I follow the links...

Pete.

I get Cambridge


Hey ho. I tried them both and landed in the same place, some
glitch-ette in FF3 perhaps? shrug

Pete.
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Old September 19th 08, 10:20 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Paul Boyd[_4_]
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On 19/09/2008 09:56, wafflycat said,

http://tinyurl.com/3zq2u2

The farcility gets cycle lanes/general road lanes crossing again, where
a cyclist wanting to go straight on is placed in what appears to be
direct conflict of motorised transport wanting to turn left. I didn't
like it as a motorist and I would not be happy on it as a cyclist.


I'm not in Cambridge, but it looks like a cyclist intending to go
straight on is meant to use the cycle lane that runs between the
left-turn lane and the right hand lane. Which means they have to cross
the left-turning traffic further back. Personally, I would use the
normal road lanes and hold that "facility" up as an example of why the
use of cycle lanes must not be made compulsory. A cyclist would have to
use the road anyway if they're turning left because there's a bloody
great bus parked in the way :-)

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Old September 19th 08, 10:23 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Clinch
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Peter Clinch wrote:
Peter Fox wrote:
Peter Clinch wrote:
Errr, that's on the M4 west of Reading when I follow the links...

Pete.

I get Cambridge


Hey ho. I tried them both and landed in the same place, some
glitch-ette in FF3 perhaps? shrug


Hmmm, worked fine in Konquerer. Odd.

Pete.
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Old September 19th 08, 10:30 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Roger Thorpe[_6_]
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Peter Clinch wrote:
Peter Clinch wrote:
Peter Fox wrote:
Peter Clinch wrote:
Errr, that's on the M4 west of Reading when I follow the links...

Pete.
I get Cambridge

Hey ho. I tried them both and landed in the same place, some
glitch-ette in FF3 perhaps? shrug


Hmmm, worked fine in Konquerer. Odd.

Pete.


Works fine on FF3.01 for me.
Roger Thorpe
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Old September 19th 08, 10:30 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Colin Blackburn[_2_]
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Peter Clinch wrote:
Peter Fox wrote:
Peter Clinch wrote:
Errr, that's on the M4 west of Reading when I follow the links...

Pete.

I get Cambridge


Hey ho. I tried them both and landed in the same place, some
glitch-ette in FF3 perhaps? shrug


It works fine for me in FF3 on a Mac.

Colin
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Old September 19th 08, 10:35 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Sep 19, 9:56*am, "wafflycat"
wrote:
In my current duties as chauffeur for Mr Wafflycat, I did Cambridge & back
yesterday. Coming out of town towards the A14, driving along the Newmarket
Road to the RAB with Wadloes Road, is this horror of a farcility.

http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=caridge&countryCode=GB#map=52.21234,...20|256& be=4260001|North&loc=GB:52.20273:0.13072:14|cambri dge|Cambridge,%20Cambridgeshire,%20England,%20CB1% 201

or

http://tinyurl.com/3zq2u2

The farcility gets cycle lanes/general road lanes crossing again, where a
cyclist wanting to go straight on is placed in what appears to be direct
conflict of motorised transport wanting to turn left. I didn't like it as a
motorist and I would not be happy on it as a cyclist.

What's the experience of urc Cambridge cyclists on this one?


Not being a Cambridge cyclist I can't give a direct response but if I
look closely I can see that traffic proceeding ahead from West to East
is supposed to use the outside lane whilst traffic turning North is
restricted to the nearside lane. If cycles proceeding East were using
an ordinary cycle lane without a secondary positioning 'filter' lane
they would still need to cross the traffic turning North to position
themselves to move ahead. Staying in the nearside lane would place
them in conflict with traffic turning North. The marking of the lane
draws attention to a manoeuvre which a cyclist would have to make in
any case so could act as a warning to the predictively challenged.

Sniper8052
 




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