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John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:05:44 -0400, Duane wrote: On 23/03/2015 9:33 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 08:57:13 -0400, Duane wrote: On 23/03/2015 8:49 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote: Per John B. Slocomb: Any suggestions? Find out if you smartphone supports something called "ANT+". If it does, consider getting just a chest band and one of the freebie pulse monitoring apps. I think most current smart phones running an app like MapMyRide or RideWithGPS or whatever will support ANT+ and HRMs. The problem for me is that the display on the phone isn't usually visible in sunlight. They do make these adapters now with typical cycle computer displays that connect to your phone via blue tooth. I'm not sure though that after all that you aren't better off just getting a lower end Garmin or similar. I don't much use a GPS, other than occasionally when I get lost :-) and I find that in sunlight my hand phones are nearly impossible to read. I had a wrist watch type of pulse monitor some years ago that worked well. Then I guess the first question is why not use the one you were happy with? Assuming you can't get that one, are you looking for a self contained device or something that acts as a sensor and connects to a phone? The second question is what do you consider cheap? You can get the self contained ones for ~50 from amazon or ebay. I intend to :-) My original inquiry was intended to get (hopefully) some suggestions for specific makes and model pulse monitors. As I thought I'd explained sourcing from America can be a trial. If the goods are shipped by mail it is usually not a problem, but a great many companies seem to ship only via FedEx, or other shipping companies, and that can be a problem. I use it mainly to keep myself slowed down - I tend to get all big headed and get with it.... then ten miles further I realize that I shouldn't have done that :-( Yeah, pacing is something that takes time to learn. Keep at it and with experience you should be ok. g Geeze, I've been at it for 20 years, or so. Will I ever learn :-) Practice practice practice. -- duane |
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Jay old and decrepit...why the monitor caws O n D reduces attention and comprehension
bit by bit.... one bit over the line and..... its the 15% on Monday morning |
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On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 02:36:22 +0000, Phil W Lee
wrote: John B. Slocomb considered Tue, 24 Mar 2015 08:06:43 +0700 the perfect time to write: On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:12:07 +0000, Phil W Lee wrote: John B. Slocomb considered Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:19:02 +0700 the perfect time to write: I would like to use a pulse rate monitor when riding. But which one. I can calculate pulse rate ranges, maximum rate, etc., and want something that primarily tells me what my current pulse is. If it has a second line that tells me what range I'm in, fine, it is not a problem, nor do I care if it records hours of riding. I'm mainly interested in "what I'm doing right NOW" and when I stop "how quick does my pulse return to normal"? These monitors are not especially common here and mail order from America is usually not the best method of procurement due to shipping, import duties and so on. I did find a Garmin shop that has several models - a Forerunner (three models) and a VIVOfit. I'm assuming, at the moment, that either choice would include added cost for the chest band. Any suggestions? For decent reliability at a reasonable price, I'd recommend Polar every time, and although they don't seem to have an agent in Thailand, some shops seem to sell them (there's one in Phuket that I've seen recommended). So we might need to know which countries is it easiest for you to deal with and how important backup service is - the chest straps usually have an embedded battery that needs to be changed (only every few years) by a service centre - Singapore has Polar agents, and they might be your closest. Of course, there may be "no-name" HRMs that will do what you want for less than a base model Polar, but quality would be far more of a gamble. Yup, I had a Polar years ago. I stopped using it when the elastic in the chest strap wore out. When I went back to the place I bought it (15 years later) they weren't there :-( I just got back from five days in Singapore but was so busy while I was there that I never gave any thought to HRM's. Although, I might add, costs in Singapore have risen to the point that it is no longer "the place to go to buy stuff". Give me a reference to the Phuket place, if you have it, as I'll go down there in a week or so. Good thing that browsers keep history :-) Phuket Bicycle Shop 14/34 Moo1, Chalong, Muang 83130 Phuket tel: 076-375922 RPM Health Club 68/2 Thapkrasatre Rd., Koh Kaew, Muang 83200 Phuket tel: 076-360885 fax: 076-360887 I've got them. The bike shop at Chalong is kind of interesting. I think I've vaguely heard of it but my impression was that it was a sort of part time, hobby, sort of shop - I like bikes and maybe I can make a buck at it - sort of place. But I'll have a look when I'm down there. The reference comes from a previous person recommending on a web forum, and is a couple of years old, so I'd phone before putting significant traveling in, if I were you. A slightly more recent reference gives the Thai importer (and service agent, which I didn't find on the Polar global website) as SpXZone. Apparently (at the time of that posting) they have an office in "The Trendy" (whatever that is) on Sukhumvit soi 13. Tel: 02-646 2508, and I believe they also have a website with a list of dealers. Found a further reference he http://bangkok.angloinfo.com/busines.../spx-zone.html Since I only speak English and bad English with a smattering of gobbledygook I can't make any headway from there, but you might. My Google-fu must be improving :-) Yes there is SpXZone - that is the Trendy Building and from what I can gather they are an importer that supplies mainly these "Fitness Centers" that are springing up. I've got one other place to visit to see if they stock the Polar and if not I'll call SpXZone and see if they can put me onto their retailers. I also ran across a Garmin shop that sells "fitness" devices as well as GPS and they stock a watch sort of gizmo that includes a HRM chest band in the package at about the price I seen mentioned in U.S. adverts that I may pursue. But I did learn something. I discovered that apparently one can't just get up and run 6 Km before breakfast like we used to. Now you have to spend a couple of hundred bucks to buy a "fitness Band" :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 02:36:22 +0000, Phil W Lee
wrote: John B. Slocomb considered Tue, 24 Mar 2015 08:06:43 +0700 the perfect time to write: On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:12:07 +0000, Phil W Lee wrote: John B. Slocomb considered Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:19:02 +0700 the perfect time to write: I would like to use a pulse rate monitor when riding. But which one. I can calculate pulse rate ranges, maximum rate, etc., and want something that primarily tells me what my current pulse is. If it has a second line that tells me what range I'm in, fine, it is not a problem, nor do I care if it records hours of riding. I'm mainly interested in "what I'm doing right NOW" and when I stop "how quick does my pulse return to normal"? These monitors are not especially common here and mail order from America is usually not the best method of procurement due to shipping, import duties and so on. I did find a Garmin shop that has several models - a Forerunner (three models) and a VIVOfit. I'm assuming, at the moment, that either choice would include added cost for the chest band. Any suggestions? For decent reliability at a reasonable price, I'd recommend Polar every time, and although they don't seem to have an agent in Thailand, some shops seem to sell them (there's one in Phuket that I've seen recommended). So we might need to know which countries is it easiest for you to deal with and how important backup service is - the chest straps usually have an embedded battery that needs to be changed (only every few years) by a service centre - Singapore has Polar agents, and they might be your closest. Of course, there may be "no-name" HRMs that will do what you want for less than a base model Polar, but quality would be far more of a gamble. Yup, I had a Polar years ago. I stopped using it when the elastic in the chest strap wore out. When I went back to the place I bought it (15 years later) they weren't there :-( I just got back from five days in Singapore but was so busy while I was there that I never gave any thought to HRM's. Although, I might add, costs in Singapore have risen to the point that it is no longer "the place to go to buy stuff". Give me a reference to the Phuket place, if you have it, as I'll go down there in a week or so. Good thing that browsers keep history :-) Phuket Bicycle Shop 14/34 Moo1, Chalong, Muang 83130 Phuket tel: 076-375922 RPM Health Club 68/2 Thapkrasatre Rd., Koh Kaew, Muang 83200 Phuket tel: 076-360885 fax: 076-360887 O.K. got those and will visit when I'm next in Phuket. Maybe next week. The reference comes from a previous person recommending on a web forum, and is a couple of years old, so I'd phone before putting significant traveling in, if I were you. A slightly more recent reference gives the Thai importer (and service agent, which I didn't find on the Polar global website) as SpXZone. Apparently (at the time of that posting) they have an office in "The Trendy" (whatever that is) on Sukhumvit soi 13. Tel: 02-646 2508, and I believe they also have a website with a list of dealers. Found a further reference he http://bangkok.angloinfo.com/busines.../spx-zone.html Since I only speak English and bad English with a smattering of gobbledygook I can't make any headway from there, but you might. Yup. They are in the "Trendy Building" and apparently are an importer and supplier for the "Fitness Centers" that are becoming rather "trendy" here :-) I also discovered a Garmin Center that sells "fitness Bands" that appear to be necessary to improve fitness. I wonder about the old days when one just got up a little early and ran 5 K before breakfast :-) My Google-fu must be improving :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 18:16:22 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote: On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 5:15:33 PM UTC-7, wrote: HELLO JAY this is your monitor. The right ventricle is slowing 15% every hour. http://goo.gl/fMoAON I had an early Polar monitor that I used about five times, and then it died. This was back in the early 90s. I didn't miss it and was never one for scientific training. I don't need technology to tell me how bad I suck. My formula for riding within my limits: ride with slow people. Otherwise, I'll chase -- regardless of what my heart is doing. I chased my brother up a hill (or tried) while basically dying of a pulmonary (saddle) embolism (from a leg clot after a fracture repair). I literally couldn't breathe, but I still made it home at about 1/4 speed, and ultimately to the cardiac ward. That was the only time my brother beat me to the top of a hill. BTW, I chalk-up my survival to good heart heath from riding. Now that I'm old and decrepit, I still chase, but more like an old dog with a short attention span, but that still gets my heart going. -- Jay Beattie. I find that as long as one is alone it is easy to just pedal along and have a good time but when these young whippersnappers whip by maintaining the steady pace is very difficult and one tries to catch up, and sometime does. Whereupon the rest of the ride becomes a drag (one might say). -- Cheers, John B. |
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Per Duane:
I'm not sure though that after all that you aren't better off just getting a lower end Garmin or similar. In spite of what I said earlier, I would have to agree with that. Also, with the Android Phone/ANT+ approach, the phone could be at risk depending on the activity. For paddling, I actually have two units: a fancy-schmancy one that shows heartbeat and bunch of other things and an older, cheaper one that just shows speed in large letters. There is something to be said for simple dedicated devices. -- Pete Cresswell |
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On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 10:36:26 PM UTC-4, Phil W Lee wrote:
John B. Slocomb considered Tue, 24 Mar 2015 08:06:43 +0700 the perfect time to write: On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:12:07 +0000, Phil W Lee wrote: John B. Slocomb considered Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:19:02 +0700 the perfect time to write: I would like to use a pulse rate monitor when riding. But which one. I can calculate pulse rate ranges, maximum rate, etc., and want something that primarily tells me what my current pulse is. If it has a second line that tells me what range I'm in, fine, it is not a problem, nor do I care if it records hours of riding. I'm mainly interested in "what I'm doing right NOW" and when I stop "how quick does my pulse return to normal"? These monitors are not especially common here and mail order from America is usually not the best method of procurement due to shipping, import duties and so on. I did find a Garmin shop that has several models - a Forerunner (three models) and a VIVOfit. I'm assuming, at the moment, that either choice would include added cost for the chest band. Any suggestions? For decent reliability at a reasonable price, I'd recommend Polar every time, and although they don't seem to have an agent in Thailand, some shops seem to sell them (there's one in Phuket that I've seen recommended). So we might need to know which countries is it easiest for you to deal with and how important backup service is - the chest straps usually have an embedded battery that needs to be changed (only every few years) by a service centre - Singapore has Polar agents, and they might be your closest. Of course, there may be "no-name" HRMs that will do what you want for less than a base model Polar, but quality would be far more of a gamble. Yup, I had a Polar years ago. I stopped using it when the elastic in the chest strap wore out. When I went back to the place I bought it (15 years later) they weren't there :-( I just got back from five days in Singapore but was so busy while I was there that I never gave any thought to HRM's. Although, I might add, costs in Singapore have risen to the point that it is no longer "the place to go to buy stuff". Give me a reference to the Phuket place, if you have it, as I'll go down there in a week or so. Good thing that browsers keep history :-) Phuket Bicycle Shop 14/34 Moo1, Chalong, Muang 83130 Phuket tel: 076-375922 RPM Health Club 68/2 Thapkrasatre Rd., Koh Kaew, Muang 83200 Phuket tel: 076-360885 fax: 076-360887 The reference comes from a previous person recommending on a web forum, and is a couple of years old, so I'd phone before putting significant traveling in, if I were you. A slightly more recent reference gives the Thai importer (and service agent, which I didn't find on the Polar global website) as SpXZone. Apparently (at the time of that posting) they have an office in "The Trendy" (whatever that is) on Sukhumvit soi 13. Tel: 02-646 2508, and I believe they also have a website with a list of dealers. Found a further reference he http://bangkok.angloinfo.com/busines.../spx-zone.html Since I only speak English and bad English with a smattering of gobbledygook I can't make any headway from there, but you might. My Google-fu must be improving :-) couldn't get worser |
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