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Traffic laws apply to everyone
Today I saw a group of 5 cyclists ride right thru a red light while cars were stopped at the light.
I wonder if they realize that traffic laws apply to them and they could be ticketed ? Or maybe they don't care. Andy |
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many classic examples...
if savvy road rider then traffic is 'like' football. if there's a hole in TSD then move across or into that hole. often into the cementery. your choice. |
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On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 7:06:46 PM UTC-7, Andy K wrote:
Today I saw a group of 5 cyclists ride right thru a red light while cars were stopped at the light. I wonder if they realize that traffic laws apply to them and they could be ticketed ? Or maybe they don't care. Andy Generally speaking you should not run red lights. But often the front rider will "jump" a yellow light late and as the rest of the group get there it is red and they will follow the leader through. I personally do not approve of this but it happens. However, I will run left turn lights if there is no on-coming traffic. I do this for a number of reasons 1. It is safer to proceed if there is no traffic regardless of the left turn light. 2. If I sit at the light I can stop other traffic coming the opposite direction that I didn't need to stop by proceeding when there was no traffic. I will often run stop signs if there is no traffic because the entire object of a stop sign is to allow a clean flow of traffic. While stop signs do not offer any physical strain to drivers it does for cyclists and if there is no traffic I see no reason to stop. Also a cyclist usually sits much higher and with fewer things to block his vision and can see if there is traffic when a car cannot. Unfortunately I can see no other way of writing traffic regulation since there are idiots that could not be held accountable for stupidities if they were otherwise. So when you are driving please remember that idiot cyclists are mostly young and inexperienced. |
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On 10/3/2016 3:13 PM, W. Wesley Groleau wrote:
On 10-03-2016 13:03, wrote: I will often run stop signs if there is no traffic I slow down at a stop sign as much as I can without losing balance. Rationale: minimize the excuses motorists might have for hating bicyclists. I'm going to admit to running a red light about three days ago. Scenario: A tandem tour with my wife. We'd ridden roughly 50 miles that day on a bike carrying too much stuff in its panniers. We were heading up a hill in an unfamiliar city with not a car in sight, when the light just ahead of us turned red. I snarled a quick expletive, thinking about the difficulty of getting the tandem re-started on that hill, then said "Heck with it; I'm going." No complaints at all from the stoker as I rolled on through the empty intersection. I felt a little bad because just as we rode through the intersection, some cars crested a hill behind us. I'm sure the drivers saw what we did, and I hate to make that bad impression. OTOH, within about three blocks, when we were stopped at another light, a guy in the passenger seat of the car next to us rolled down his window and said how nice we looked riding along. That was kind of him, and welcome. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 10-08-2016 14:19, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Scenario: A tandem tour with my wife. We'd ridden roughly 50 miles that day on a bike carrying too much stuff in its panniers. We were heading up a hill in an unfamiliar city with not a car in sight, when the light just ahead of us turned red. I snarled a quick expletive, thinking about the difficulty of getting the tandem re-started on that hill, then said "Heck with it; I'm going." No complaints at all from the stoker as I rolled on through the empty intersection. Understandable. I have succumbed to that temptation under a few particularly onerous terrains, and when I was sure there were no witnesses. There are a few particularly irritating places in Spain where the terrain and/or vegetation prevents one from determining in advance whether there are approaching hazards/witnesses. Get up some nice speed downhill and have to shift to low while going downhill in order to be able to get started up-hill the other side of the intersection. -- Wes Groleau |
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"W. Wesley Groleau" wrote in
: On 10-08-2016 14:19, Frank Krygowski wrote: Scenario: A tandem tour with my wife. We'd ridden roughly 50 miles that day on a bike carrying too much stuff in its panniers. We were heading up a hill in an unfamiliar city with not a car in sight, when the light just ahead of us turned red. I snarled a quick expletive, thinking about the difficulty of getting the tandem re-started on that hill, then said "Heck with it; I'm going." No complaints at all from the stoker as I rolled on through the empty intersection. Understandable. I have succumbed to that temptation under a few particularly onerous terrains, and when I was sure there were no witnesses. So it's not just me. -- Andrew Chaplin SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO (If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.) |
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On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 12:13:22 PM UTC-7, W. Wesley Groleau wrote:
On 10-03-2016 13:03, wrote: I will often run stop signs if there is no traffic I slow down at a stop sign as much as I can without losing balance. Rationale: minimize the excuses motorists might have for hating bicyclists. -- Wes Groleau The trouble with this is that motorists are afraid you're going to then cut them off. But I can come to a complete stop and balance for a couple of seconds. Funny since after the concussion I had I can't walk in a straight line and often lose by balance and stagger when walking. This is why I have a handicap marker to show cops that I couldn't possibly pass a drunk test. |
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