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Jay, I assume you are referring to the Salmon Falls ride. It really is a great ride; I have done it quite a few times; and I wouldn't consider it to be a particularly dangerous bicycle ride because you're pretty much always going slow enough to stop if somebody pulls out in front of you from their driveway. But it is really dangerous to guys riding fast motorcycles because it became well-known as a popular fast motorcycle ride when the area was rural, but after it became somewhat suburban there were quite a few motorcycling deaths on the road.
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 11:57:07 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote: Jobst was renowned for riding extreme terrain with his road bike. Too bad he's not here to comment. Despite the card in the car and the rollator in the closet, I'm still quite certain that I could take my road bike anywhere the boys can take their mountain bikes -- but I don't guarantee that I'll do it in one trip. If they come back with holes in their Gatorskins, I won't try -- I've long since given up fixing flats, and I don't think the Trailhouse has a tow truck. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ |
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On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 10:50:43 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Clean Gene the Wild and Crazy Machine wrote: "several routes from bikepacking are relatively flat originally miner's path across the hills possibly done with handcarts." Well hell, Gene, since miners could push their handcarts along that trail, I don't see any reason I can't do it on my Paramount with Michelin 700-C Pro 4s, do you? did not take time relocating relevant links to photo n video layouts. there are 2-3-4 sources for bikepacking. the trail I followed onscreen ran parallel on ridges ....along stream up side over stream cliffs down to blue berry marsh....drop-offs n large tree trunk grown solid trailside over 100 years. Hope still there. so not exactly flat but doesn't climb over the mtn. hmmmm the handcart needs further research as 'pony' may be more accurate. I forget. some talk about emigrant rail loops .... where's this ? one I know and dislke is a run to the bottom GC and back in an afternoon. use garmin maps for route altitude profiles ? 'serious' bikepackers ride CF with ultralight backpacking ethics. my rig is CDMTB steel cyclocross and downhill. |
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On 2017-01-22 09:16, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 8:05:14 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2017-01-08 19:36, wrote: Joerg, I was wondering if you've ever ridden the Mosquito Road loop in Placerville. It's not that long (under 25 miles), but has a lot of climbing and descending with some pitches of 12%, whereas I am more accustomed to riding a grade of 6% or so. So I'm not sure if I'm really in good enough shape to do the loop. Any words of wisdom? Thanks a lot. Bill Crowell in Diamond Springs Have to pass, Bill. Never rode that one and I don't like such roads where eventually some crazy guy on a crotch rocket blows through and almost hits you in a curve. That happened to me on Salmon Falls Road. A helmet flew by almost under my left arm and the guy nearly turfed it. Seriously? That looks like a great ride. http://tinyurl.com/h4rupuz That's a quintessential Sierra foothills ride. Reminds me of this local ride: http://rideoregonride.com/road-route...ge-long-route/ http://norcalcyclingnews.com/words/w...1.28.07-AM.png If those types of roads are frightening for you, you'd basically have no fun place to ride around here. Huh? Not true at all. This is the sort of route I ride: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5cjAW_nrl4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y38JzV-ueXI Same area, no cars, pristine nature, fun! Bill can get to the El Dorado Trail right from his garage in minutes, just like I can: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_T2c4AXaCY It goes on and on, you can ride all the way to Folsom. Why would I want to ride on a road where motor vehicles whiz by all the time when I can have this? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 2017-01-22 09:28, wrote:
Jay, I assume you are referring to the Salmon Falls ride. It really is a great ride; I have done it quite a few times; and I wouldn't consider it to be a particularly dangerous bicycle ride because you're pretty much always going slow enough to stop if somebody pulls out in front of you from their driveway. But it is really dangerous to guys riding fast motorcycles because it became well-known as a popular fast motorcycle ride when the area was rural, but after it became somewhat suburban there were quite a few motorcycling deaths on the road. Yup. They often ride like these guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiYFqGhrw1o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HkeEMwkIYk Speed limit? Phhht .... -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 10:04:53 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-01-22 09:28, wrote: Jay, I assume you are referring to the Salmon Falls ride. It really is a great ride; I have done it quite a few times; and I wouldn't consider it to be a particularly dangerous bicycle ride because you're pretty much always going slow enough to stop if somebody pulls out in front of you from their driveway. But it is really dangerous to guys riding fast motorcycles because it became well-known as a popular fast motorcycle ride when the area was rural, but after it became somewhat suburban there were quite a few motorcycling deaths on the road. Yup. They often ride like these guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiYFqGhrw1o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HkeEMwkIYk Speed limit? Phhht .... This is the sort of riding you'll see everywhere from Palomares (presently closed due to landslides) To Mt. Diablo or Mt. Hamilton. Even out on 1 1/2 lane country roads at 85 mph. |
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On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 9:28:02 AM UTC-8, wrote:
Jay, I assume you are referring to the Salmon Falls ride. It really is a great ride; I have done it quite a few times; and I wouldn't consider it to be a particularly dangerous bicycle ride because you're pretty much always going slow enough to stop if somebody pulls out in front of you from their driveway. But it is really dangerous to guys riding fast motorcycles because it became well-known as a popular fast motorcycle ride when the area was rural, but after it became somewhat suburban there were quite a few motorcycling deaths on the road. Actually, I was looking at the route map and some pictures from the Mosquito Road loop. That Google Map citizen-provided (no Google car out there) picture is from Mosquito Road. What was the traffic like? -- Jay Beattie. |
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