Blue railway signals?

On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 06:54:44 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 19:25:52 GMT, Johnny B Good, another brain dead,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:

Back in the day when *cold* running water was a luxury, the tap (fawcet)
would be mounted on the RHS for ease of use by right handed people (the
majority of the population - most left handers learn soon enough to
become ambidextrous).

The hot tap being a much later luxury add on had to make do with the
only remaining space on the LHS. Thus was the convention of LHS hot/RHS
cold tap placement born. The other way round is usually the result of
lazy plumbing and pure chance.

Is this still about blue railway signals? Or what is this sick **** about
now again, troll-feeder? G

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 19:54:44 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Kristy Ogilvie" wrote in message
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"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
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"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
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"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
news On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 21:03:57 -0000, Mike Humphrey
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Fred Johnson wrote:

Can anybody else remember blue traffic lights on railways?
Can't
find
any evidence on google. I'm sure whereas cars have
red/amber/green,
railways always had a 4th blue light. What does it mean and why
has
it
disappeared from Google?

Railway signals in modern times have always had red, yellow (not
amber)

I've never been fussy enough to even notice the difference between
yellow,
amber, orange. I could tell the difference if they were side by
side,
but
I just think of a road traffic light as either yellow or orange.
I
couldn't even tell you what amber colour is compared to yellow and
orange.
I don't do things like "mauve", etc. Just purple, light purple,
etc.

and green. A four-aspect signal has two yellows - the sequence
approaching a stop signal goes G, YY, Y, R. There can be a number
of
other indications as well as the main signal but these are almost
invariably white.

I assume this is to allow trains the longer stopping distance they
require
than road vehicles.

There's a number of uses for blue and purple, but not appearing
with
the
R/Y/G "traffic light" signals, at least in the UK.

I might be thinking of non "traffic light" signals, or I might be
thinking
of a light which was off and was just seeing the blue lens which
had
a
yellow light behind to make green.

If you want to look
at the full range of signs and signals, http://www.railsigns..uk/
has
a
very comprehensive guide.

That's a lot for a driver to remember! At least with road signs
the
symbol is meaningful.

I wonder why the red is at the bottom on rail lights and the top
on
traffic lights?

Basically because when there are two ways of doing
something, you can be sure someone will do it both ways.

Like my bloody French car which has the wiper switch going down to
increase speed.

And with light and power switches in houses etc.

Down should always be on

The yanks feel otherwise.

The yanks don't think at all.

I said feel, not think, stupid.

But you meant think,

Nope.

or should have done.

Nope.

Deciding on a switch mechanism involve thinking, not emotions.

Wrong, as always.

Most designers use their head to design, not their hearts. Otherwise you end up with Apple products.

(except two or more way switches of course).

And then some bugger shows up who decides to do
them sideways so there is no confusion at all, and we
end up with 4 different ways of doing it instead of just 2.

Never seen a sideways lightswitch in a house.

But you do see it with power switches.

Not here.

There is completely irrelevant.

We are the centre of the world.

The cesspit of the world, actually.

True. But we still made you and the USA.

Most countries were colonised by us,

Only in your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic fantasyland..

Or in the history books.

we have the 0 GMT point,

Whoopy ****ing do.

There must be a reason we have it.

we invented the language most people use, etc.

Nope, it evolved.

From here.

They're similar to light switches, although more rugged as they switch a
higher current.

Anyway with automatic ones, there are no switches.

There are in mine.

A couple of mine have manual overrides, my bedroom for example is
normally
on a 15 second timer, so it goes off just after I get into bed, but
sometimes I press the switch to leave it on if I'm doing something else
in
there. And don't go inserting rude things!

Nothing rude about ****ing, wanking or even
changing the sheets or untangling the blankets
or cleaning up after you have ****ed the bed again.

If you were closer I'd spank you for saying those things.

Only in your pathetic little drug crazed
drunken psychotic S&M fantasyland.

What's crazy about wanting to inflict pain?

But most of them are auto only.

None of mine are.

I don't see the point in manual override in most rooms.

I didn't say manual.

You said yours all have switches. What is a switch for but for manual override?

I can always make them come on when it's light by covering the sensor
momentarily.

Me too.

I'm surprised so few people have auto lights.

Yeah, me too. Only one of mine isnt, and I was thinking
the other day that I really should have that one auto too.
Tricky tho for the main seat I compute from, I'd need one
that auto turns it on when leaving the bedroom in the
dark as I almost always do even in summer and another
closer to keep it on while its dark.

Not sure what you mean. I've only got more than one in this room, as it's a large room and I need them to see me coming in from different entrances, and also see me only moving slightly in front of the computer.

And they arent cheap
at $50. Tho 2 more is no big deal in the total cost.

Mine were £10. I did use some £5 ones but they didn't last very long.

OTOH the other approach with leds is to just turn
everything on auto at sunset and off at sunrise and

I don't go to all that hassle. The PIRs I have (and I thought they all did) have light sensors. They won't switch on if it's light. Although they will stay on if it's light and motion continues to be detected, as they will receive light from their own lighting and won't know if it's got light or not. I did have to disable those in this room though, and fit a seperate one just for light, since when one turns on the lights, the others then think it's daylight and stop functioning.

just tell siri to turn them off off when in bed etc.

I just set my bedroom one to have a very short delay, so I just get into bed and wait 20 seconds. I positioned it so it can't see me rolling over in bed, but as soon as I stick my feet out to stand up, the light comes on.

But I find the built in thermometer useful with the Hues.

What has temperature to do with lighting?

And with whether hot and cold taps have the
hot one on the right of the pair or the left.

I can never remember which way round mine are, until I go to use one.
Because when I use one in another house that's the other way round, I
always get it wrong.

Never had any other car that way round.

Yeah, the frogs are much worse for that than most.

They even speak backwards, putting the noun before the adjective.

And some buggers even write backwards.

Muslims.

And some write upside down.

Who?

Well?

Like I said, whenever there is more than one way to do it,
you can be sure some will do it one way and some the other.

Yes, there are always morons.

And ******s like you.

That would imply deliberately mis-designing your own product.

Wrong, as always.

I suggested only morons would choose the wrong way, and you added ******s to that list.

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 19:36:14 -0000, Johnny B Good wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 10:33:25 +0000, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 01:07:11 GMT, "Kristy Ogilvie"
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 00:40:37 -0000, Rod Speed


is a xposting troll.
PDNFTT

I think that acronym can be improved to "PDNFTFT!" :-)

I've been banned from forums for less.

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 19:25:52 -0000, Johnny B Good wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 18:21:55 +0000, Fred Johnson wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 11:22:05 -0000, Max Demian
wrote:

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Usually hot is on the left.

Seems to be that way on all my sinks, but I'd say in other people's
houses I see it the other way round in about 20% of cases. When I were
a lad, the bathroom sink was definitely the other way round, can't
remember the kitchen sink.

Back in the day when *cold* running water was a luxury, the tap (fawcet)
would be mounted on the RHS for ease of use by right handed people (the
majority of the population - most left handers learn soon enough to
become ambidextrous).

The hot tap being a much later luxury add on had to make do with the
only remaining space on the LHS. Thus was the convention of LHS hot/RHS
cold tap placement born. The other way round is usually the result of
lazy plumbing and pure chance.

I must admit if I were to fit taps to a new sink, I'd either fit them to whichever pipe was closest, or randomly. I might make them the same as another sink in the house, but if I'm fitting all the sinks from scratch, I wouldn't bother looking up what the "standard" was. Don't most folk just operate the blue or red topped one as required? That's what I do. I will occasionally then think "that's odd, it's the other way round to my house", but I never turn the wrong one on. I can understand the standard of pushing down for on (down is always more, it's the way we write text), but left and right don't mean hot and cold to me.

Mind you, something that annoys me are cooker controls. Electric cookers operate clockwise for hotter, like a volume control, but gas cookers operate anti-clockwise for hotter, like a tap. Why did electrics go the other way to gas/water? Is it because they used to tighten the thread to increase pressure for less resistance? Surely a rheostat could be wired either way round.

Also phones and calculators/computers have the numbers the other way up. The computer makes sense, higher numbers further up, but the phone is upside down.

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 10:55:01 -0000, Rod Speed
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 00:40:37 -0000, Rod Speed
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"JNugent" wrote in message
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On 14/12/2018 11:33, Nightjar wrote:
On 14/12/2018 09:27, Rod Speed wrote:
Nightjar wrote
Fred Johnson wrote

I wonder why the red is at the bottom on rail lights and the top
on
traffic lights?

On railways it is at the bottom so that there is no light shade
below
it, on which snow could build up and obscure the light.

So why didn't that continue with street lights ?

Perhaps the American who invented them hadn't thought about that
problem.
Overground railway light signals were not standardised until rather
later - in 1924.

I have never seen a set of road traffic lights obscured by built-up
snow,
not even during the worst of UK blizzards. Has anyone else?

https://www.google.com/search=traffi...+snow&tbm=inch

How did you manage to misspell isch as inch as part of a URL?

The stupid spell checker keeps defaulting to change instead of ignore
and its easy to not notice that when ignoring what it whines about.

Mine just underlines things in red, I have to click each one to do
anything about it.

Mine does that until I hit post and then pops
up 8 options on what to do about each one.
And doesn't offer ignore as the default each
time. Sometimes the default is ignore and
sometimes its change.

Did your spellchecker treat it as a word?

Corse any spell checker has to.

********, easy to detect a URL by the http etc.

It wasn't clear that your it referred to the entire url.

The worrying thing is my brain immediately spotted inch as incorrect for
a google search parameter.

You should do the decent thing and disembowel yourself.

Hey, it means I'm really observant.

Nope, that you noticed that the url didn't work.

You also omitted ?q after the word search. You can't insert parameters
without a ? to indicate them.

I inserted nothing.

It was done so for you when you did the search.

Try that again in english, even chrome translate doesn't do gobbledegook.

Interesting that it mostly appears to be driven show forming a disc
over the entire lens rather than a pile that eventually gets high
enough to obscure the top one, sitting on the visor of a lower one.

Because vertically falling snow with no wind can't get to the lower
visors, due to the upper visors getting in the way. It has to be snow
on
a windy day.

There is **** all snow without any wind.

There is here, in fact it's usually not windy at all when it's snowing,
unless you're up a mountain.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and that's saying something.

Also interesting those are all in the USA, although I guess they get
more snow than the UK.

Guess again.

Some places in the USA get feet of snow every year. I usually get ****
all.

You have always been, and always will be, completely an utterly irrelevant.

Or maybe our lights are more slippery?

Unlikely.

True, a British engineer would never think of that.

"Kristy Ogilvie" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 07:06:28 -0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 15/12/2018 01:00, Kristy Ogilvie wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 22:59:29 -0000, Steve Walker
wrote:

On 14/12/2018 18:22, Fred Johnson wrote:
People with colour blindness shouldn't drive trains (or cars for that
matter).

And it's not very many, in fact I know of only one person who's
colourblind.

It matter for railways due to needing to determine the colour from a
long distance, due to the long stopping distance of a train. It is fine
for a colourblind person to drive a car, as the stopping distance is
short enough for the driver to get close enough to determint the
position of the light on traffic light.

Up to eight percent of men of North European decent are red-green
colour
blind.

Since when were Northern European men decent? :-)

Since they put on clothes to keep the ice and snow out?

So we're born indecent? That doesn't make sense whether you believe in
god or evolution.

Wrong with evolution.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 08:59:55 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

So we're born indecent? That doesn't make sense whether you believe in
god or evolution.

Wrong with evolution.

Evolution certainly went wrong with BOTH of you abnormal sociopathic idiots!

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On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 08:58:56 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


You have always been, and always will be, completely an utterly irrelevant.

So were, are and will be you! Especially in a few years time when you'll be
pushing up the daisies, senile cretin! BG

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 21:59:55 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Kristy Ogilvie" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 07:06:28 -0000, The Natural Philosopher
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On 15/12/2018 01:00, Kristy Ogilvie wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 22:59:29 -0000, Steve Walker
wrote:

On 14/12/2018 18:22, Fred Johnson wrote:
People with colour blindness shouldn't drive trains (or cars for that
matter).

And it's not very many, in fact I know of only one person who's
colourblind.

It matter for railways due to needing to determine the colour from a
long distance, due to the long stopping distance of a train. It is fine
for a colourblind person to drive a car, as the stopping distance is
short enough for the driver to get close enough to determint the
position of the light on traffic light.

Up to eight percent of men of North European decent are red-green
colour
blind.

Since when were Northern European men decent? :-)

Since they put on clothes to keep the ice and snow out?

So we're born indecent? That doesn't make sense whether you believe in
god or evolution.

Wrong with evolution.

Huh? If we needed clothes we'd be born with them on.