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  #61  
Old January 14th 10, 07:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On Jan 14, 10:51*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"Tom Sherman °_°" wrote in ...

Edward Dolan wrote:

[...]
**** you too, you god damn liberal-socialist-communist asshole!
[...]


Instead of jumping to false conclusions, Ed Dolan should be aware that
"Still Just Me" is a libertarian and supporter of Israel.


One **** you always deserves another, no matter who it is said to or what
the pretext.

A libertarian is even worse than a liberal-socialist-communist asshole, so
nothing was wasted on the jerk!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


liberal socialist seems like an oxymoron too me. Its sort of like
saying Freedmanist Marxist.
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Old January 14th 10, 10:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On Jan 14, 10:51 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
[...]
A libertarian is even worse than a liberal-socialist-communist asshole, so
nothing was wasted on the jerk!


liberal socialist seems like an oxymoron too me. Its sort of like

saying Freedmanist Marxist.

They are all ideologies of the left, differing only in their intensity.
Ideologies of the left emphasize the collective as opposed to the
individual.

For instance, ideologies of the right end up with the divine right of kings.
Again, just a matter of intensity. Ideologies of the right emphasize the
individual as opposed to the collective.

A middle ground works best for everyone except the crazies.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



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Old January 15th 10, 02:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On Jan 14, 3:05*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
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On Jan 14, 10:51 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
[...]

A libertarian is even worse than a liberal-socialist-communist asshole, so
nothing was wasted on the jerk!
liberal socialist seems like an oxymoron too me. Its sort of like


saying Freedmanist Marxist.

They are all ideologies of the left, differing only in their intensity.
Ideologies of the left emphasize the collective as opposed to the
individual.

For instance, ideologies of the right end up with the divine right of kings.
Again, just a matter of intensity. Ideologies of the right emphasize the
individual as opposed to the collective.

A middle ground works best for everyone except the crazies.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


Freedman is the ideology of the neocons and the republican party. He
advised Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Kissinger, Pinochet, the Heritage
Foundation, the Cato Institute, etc. He was a Chicago Econ Professor
and a disciple of Hayek. He is considered the father of the Chicago
School. He is the antisocialist. He ain't on the left of anything.
  #66  
Old January 15th 10, 06:25 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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wrote:
On Jan 14, 3:05 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Jan 14, 10:51 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
[...]

A libertarian is even worse than a liberal-socialist-communist asshole, so
nothing was wasted on the jerk!
liberal socialist seems like an oxymoron too me. Its sort of like

saying Freedmanist Marxist.

They are all ideologies of the left, differing only in their intensity.
Ideologies of the left emphasize the collective as opposed to the
individual.

For instance, ideologies of the right end up with the divine right of kings.
Again, just a matter of intensity. Ideologies of the right emphasize the
individual as opposed to the collective.

A middle ground works best for everyone except the crazies.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


Freedman is the ideology of the neocons and the republican party. He
advised Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Kissinger, Pinochet, the Heritage
Foundation, the Cato Institute, etc. He was a Chicago Econ Professor
and a disciple of Hayek. He is considered the father of the Chicago
School. He is the antisocialist. He ain't on the left of anything.


I believe you refer above to the incomparable Milton Friedman:
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/e...n-autobio.html

not 'freedman' or whatever.

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Old January 15th 10, 07:02 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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wrote in message
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[...]
Freedman is the ideology of the neocons and the republican party. He

advised Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Kissinger, Pinochet, the Heritage
Foundation, the Cato Institute, etc. He was a Chicago Econ Professor
and a disciple of Hayek. He is considered the father of the Chicago
School. He is the antisocialist. He ain't on the left of anything.

I once took a full year course called Economics 101 in college. This first
half was devoted to the micro and the second half was devoted to the macro.
Once I got the hell out of that course, I determined never again in my life
to have anything to do with anyone connected to the subject of economics.
They are all wizards of nonsense in my not so humble opinion.

Instead I fled into sociology and anthropology where I could make some sense
of the subjects and of the thinkers in those fields. I have never looked
back and to this day I hold anyone who is interested in economics in
contempt.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


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Old January 15th 10, 08:52 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On Jan 15, 11:25*am, AMuzi wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 14, 3:05 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
wrote in message


....
On Jan 14, 10:51 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
[...]


A libertarian is even worse than a liberal-socialist-communist asshole, so
nothing was wasted on the jerk!
liberal socialist seems like an oxymoron too me. Its sort of like
saying Freedmanist Marxist.


They are all ideologies of the left, differing only in their intensity..
Ideologies of the left emphasize the collective as opposed to the
individual.


For instance, ideologies of the right end up with the divine right of kings.
Again, just a matter of intensity. Ideologies of the right emphasize the
individual as opposed to the collective.


A middle ground works best for everyone except the crazies.


Regards,


Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


Freedman is the ideology of the neocons and the republican party. He
advised Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Kissinger, Pinochet, the Heritage
Foundation, the Cato Institute, etc. He was a Chicago Econ Professor
and a disciple of Hayek. He is considered the father of the Chicago
School. He is the antisocialist. He ain't on the left of anything.


I believe you refer above to the incomparable Milton Friedman:http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/e...1976/friedman-...

not 'freedman' or whatever.

--


Yes, thx for the correction, and for the volunteer editing that you
have graciously provided for me over the years. I know that I need
it :-)

Andres

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Old January 15th 10, 09:08 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On Jan 15, 12:02*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
wrote in message

...
[...] Freedman is the ideology of the neocons and the republican party. He

advised Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Kissinger, Pinochet, the Heritage
Foundation, the Cato Institute, etc. He was a Chicago Econ Professor
and a disciple of Hayek. He is considered the father of the Chicago
School. He is the antisocialist. He ain't on the left of anything.

I once took a full year course called Economics 101 in college. This first
half was devoted to the micro and the second half was devoted to the macro.
Once I got the hell out of that course, I determined never again in my life
to have anything to do with anyone connected to the subject of economics.
They are all wizards of nonsense in my not so humble opinion.

Instead I fled into sociology and anthropology where I could make some sense
of the subjects and of the thinkers in those fields. I have never looked
back and to this day I hold anyone who is interested in economics in
contempt.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


You have taken way more economics or sociology or anthropology than I
have. However, the economy greatly influences society and without
taking a class you can read about it. So, to opine about society as
you often do, you need to understand the economic forces that drive
it. After all, the political decisions that you defend or criticize
are essentially grounded on economics. Whether or not you support or
oppose ideology or policy, you need to understand what the forces that
shape them, especially economic ones that drive them. Otherwise, to
paraphrase Clive Owen in Inside Man, you are just whistling Dixie out
of your ass.
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Old January 15th 10, 10:10 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,uk.rec.cycling
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wrote in message
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On Jan 15, 12:02 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
[...]
I once took a full year course called Economics 101 in college. The first
half was devoted to the micro and the second half was devoted to the
macro.
Once I got the hell out of that course, I determined never again in my
life
to have anything to do with anyone connected to the subject of economics.
They are all wizards of nonsense in my not so humble opinion.

Instead I fled into sociology and anthropology where I could make some
sense
of the subjects and of the thinkers in those fields. I have never looked
back and to this day I hold anyone who is interested in economics in
contempt.


You have taken way more economics or sociology or anthropology than I

have. However, the economy greatly influences society and without
taking a class you can read about it. So, to opine about society as
you often do, you need to understand the economic forces that drive
it. After all, the political decisions that you defend or criticize
are essentially grounded on economics. Whether or not you support or
oppose ideology or policy, you need to understand what the forces that
shape them, especially economic ones that drive them. Otherwise, to
paraphrase Clive Owen in Inside Man, you are just whistling Dixie out
of your ass.

Well, that is what Tom Sherman is always telling me too, but my contempt for
such types overrides everything else. Sorry, but I am who I am and so is
everybody else.

I have read economic histories of societies, but I always come away from
them unconvinced. It seems to me that they miss everything that is
important. I know my life does not revolve around economics. I am as poor as
a church mouse and have been so all of my life. That has nothing to do with
who I am or what I am about. I give everyone else the same benefit that I
give myself.

You have to read Marx for a true perspective on economic determinism. It
never made any sense and those who tried to implement it ended up being
nothing but murderers on a mass scale. It is why I hate the left and all
those believe in the perfectibility of mankind, if only ... blah, blah,
blah. Our human nature determines what we are capable of, not economic plans
for human improvement.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



 




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