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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
Just A User wrote:
Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K. where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like those at the campus on Monday. No, instead they have nutcases like Michael Dosunmu who manage to procure a FULL AUTO weapon in the UK and execute a murder plot. Last Updated: Monday, 5 March 2007, 23:21 GMT 'Up to 30' heard boy murder plan Police believe up to 30 people were present when the murder of 15-year-old Michael Dosunmu at his home in south-east London was planned. Speaking on Crimewatch on Monday Det Ch Insp Fiona Mallon said his murder may have been a case of mistaken identity. Michael died of multiple gunshot wounds when two gunmen burst into the bedroom of his Peckham home on 6 February. Detectives said the weapon, a Mac 10 machine-gun, was still on London's streets and could be used again. Let's also not neglect to mention that the UK is now the land of Natioanl ID cards and Big Brother cameras who are now having 2-way AUDIO installed so the Queen and her minions can publicly scold you for anything they see you doing that they think is bad. Speaking of how safe the UK gun laws have made the (severely pussified) Brits: http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/d...chine_guns.php Girl, 14, accused of supplying machine guns By Ruth Holmes A 14-YEAR-OLD girl from north-west London stands accused of conspiracy to supply a machine gun capable of firing 1,000 rounds a minute. The teenager, who cannot be named for legal reasons, is one of four suspects from the area who appeared at High Barnet magistrates' court charged with gun-related crimes. She was charged with possessing two revolvers, a Mac-10 machine gun and a second machine pistol. A 16-year-old male youth was also accused of possessing a revolver with intent to endanger life, as well as drugs and CS sprays. 18-year-old Korrey Johnson-Bell, of Westfield Close, Brent, was charged with possession of a machine pistol while Genevieve Sahel, 31, also of Westfield Close, faced charges of conspiracy to supply firearms, possession of prohibited weapons and possession of ammunition. Their court appearance on Saturday follows an investigation by London's Trident crime unit, which handles gun crime in black communities. It occurred as five more victims fell prey to gun crime in the capital this weekend. advertisement Gang warfare upsurge An internal police report, revealed by the Observer newspaper on Sunday, painted a grim picture of the surge in gang warfare and "post-code killings" in London. The report focuses on Hackney, where father-of-two Steven Nyembo-Ya-Muteba was murdered outside his home two weeks ago after asking a gang of youths to be quiet. It says gun and knife crime in the north-east London borough is increasing more rapidly than anywhere in the capital. The report, written by Superintendent Leroy Logan, highlights the "terrible acts of gratuitous violence" that have afflicted the area, "ending up in young people losing their lives or being badly injured, because they were visiting the area and were known by the local violent youth, showing the serious implications of district code warfare". Violent music videos The police chief points to a growing trend which is seeing gangs produce music videos, being broadcast on digital music channels, encouraging violent attacks on rivals. The report, circulated across the Metropolitan police four months ago, warns that if "gangster glamour, was not "shattered" it would "continually end up in predator-type packs of youths committing the most disgusting acts of violence and other forms of crime". According to the Observer, police are particularly concerned about Sky television's Channel U which is seen by some as glamorising gang culture. Darren Platt, the director of Channel U, told the paper it had "tightened things up" and now rejected videos advocating violence and guns. Now, take your lying socialist drivel and stick it where the sun don't shine. |
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we are #1in gun violence
donquijote1954 wrote:
On Apr 19, 3:48 pm, (Matthew T. Russotto) wrote: In article , Just A User wrote: Okay so that is one, but they are a lot less common than here in the U.S. Here in the gun happy U.S. we have at least a couple of mass shootings per year. A lie, of course. We are not the only one, but we are #1in gun violence... It's "as easy to buy weapons as a loaf of bread," says this article that gauges world opinion... "The U.S. is not the only country in which random acts of gun violence have erupted in seemingly everyday circumstances to destroy lives, families and communities," said Britain's Guardian newspaper. "But the U.S. is one of the few countries that seems collectively unwilling and politically incapable of doing anything serious to stop such things happening again."The slayings Monday at Virginia Tech reinforced a perception that in the U.S., it is "as easy to buy weapons as a loaf of bread," in the words of one Russian woman on a Moscow street. "Any madman can get hold of a gun," said Natalya Ivanova, a 22-year-old secretary. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ationworld-hed I find it rather ironic that the newspaper publishing this drivel also happens to be based in a city where handguns are ALREADY banned, yet it has one of the HIGHEST crime rates in the nation. |
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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
In rec.bicycles.soc Road Glidin' Don wrote:
On Apr 19, 2:22 pm, asshat1954 wrote: On Apr 19, 1:11 pm, Road Glidin' Don wrote: Hopefully a door opener gets you some day, so we don't have to put up with your retarded cross-posts anymore. I'd consider it an act of terrorism. Bicycles should have the right to be free from opening doors as well as from invasive cars. If someone has the right ot bear arms, we should have the right to ride a bike SAFELY on the streets, ie. WE NEED BIKE LANES. You've got a newsgroup for bicycles which you don't stay in. No reason to suppose, if you had bike lanes, you'd stay in them either. I've never seen him post to the bicycle group except to troll via crosspost. He's a miserable hypocritical mouth breathing cretin, and I'm not sure he's ever seet foot to pedal on a bicycle. You've got a lot to learn about responsible use and sharing before you start preaching to others, retard. I've got a call from the Mentally Handicapped Anti-Defamation League on line one for you. :-) -- Dane Buson - "Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative." -Oscar Wilde |
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On 19 Apr 2007 14:29:49 -0700, "Bill H." wrote:
On Apr 19, 9:03 am, wrote: On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954 Excellent ! He supports the Constitution and fundamental rights... Just not civil liberties. Question: Do you support the right for women to vote? The founding fathers didn't. But we changed THAT to our liking, didn't we? I don't recall the Constitution saying we couldn't. And of course that includes the C in the fullest sense, which means the Bill of Rights is considered 'part and parcel' of it, which means the 17th ( or was it the 27th ? I forget ) Amendment is 'part of the Constitution, along with all other Amendments '. IOW - there is a Constitutional way to get rid of the 2nd Amendment - it's called ANOTHER Amendment, and the process for that is clearly laid out including state ratifications, etc etc. Unless and until THAT happens, the RTKABA is Constitutionaly protected. -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
We have a few bicycle rallys in the countryside each year that causes the
entire road to be closed for the day. People, mostly ranchers, cannot leave or enter their property until the bicycle event is over. One said he was going to release 200 head of cattle on the road just to make the event "more eventful(less)." Of he could let the cows hang out on the road overnight the night before .... I think that's what he meant by "more eventful(less)." He did say the motorcyclists bother them (i.e ranchers and farmers) less since they all go by in 15 minutes and it doesn't require them to stay off the road all day so the bicyclists can ride 3-4 abreast all over the roadway like they normally do around here. They don't like riding in their "exclusive lanes" because of stickers, so they ride in the car track areas of the main roadway. No wonder some get run over. Mack |
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we are #1in gun violence
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:42:34 -0400, Polarhound
wrote: donquijote1954 wrote: On Apr 19, 3:48 pm, (Matthew T. Russotto) wrote: In article , Just A User wrote: Okay so that is one, but they are a lot less common than here in the U.S. Here in the gun happy U.S. we have at least a couple of mass shootings per year. A lie, of course. We are not the only one, but we are #1in gun violence... It's "as easy to buy weapons as a loaf of bread," says this article that gauges world opinion... "The U.S. is not the only country in which random acts of gun violence have erupted in seemingly everyday circumstances to destroy lives, families and communities," said Britain's Guardian newspaper. "But the U.S. is one of the few countries that seems collectively unwilling and politically incapable of doing anything serious to stop such things happening again."The slayings Monday at Virginia Tech reinforced a perception that in the U.S., it is "as easy to buy weapons as a loaf of bread," in the words of one Russian woman on a Moscow street. "Any madman can get hold of a gun," said Natalya Ivanova, a 22-year-old secretary. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ationworld-hed I find it rather ironic that the newspaper publishing this drivel also happens to be based in a city where handguns are ALREADY banned, yet it has one of the HIGHEST crime rates in the nation. Ah, but consistenly in second place to Washington DC, where they are even MORE banned :-) -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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On 19 Apr 2007 13:33:35 -0700, donquijote1954 U.S. is one of the few countries that seems collectively unwilling and politically incapable of doing anything serious to stop such things happening again."The slayings Monday at Virginia Tech reinforced a perception that in the U.S., it is "as easy to buy weapons as a loaf of bread," in the words of one Russian woman on a Moscow street. "Any Well, THAT settles it ! If some random whore walking the street in Moscow says 'It's like such and such in America', it must be true ! Besides, anyone else remember the stories of how difficult it was to buy a loaf of bread in the old Soviet Union? -- "Outback" Jon - KC2BNE AMD Opteron 146 ) and 6.1 GHz of other AMD power... http://folding.stanford.edu - got folding? Team 48435 2006 ZG1000A Concours "Blueline" COG# 7385 CDA# 0157 1980 CB750F SuperSport "CoolerKing" |
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Ah, but consistenly in second place to Washington DC, where they are even MORE banned :-) Thankfully, that is now in the process of changing: WASHINGTON (AP) - A federal appeals court overturned the District of Columbia's long- standing handgun ban Friday, rejecting the city's argument that the Second Amendment right to bear arms applied only to militias. In a 2-1 decision, the judges held that the activities protected by the Second Amendment "are not limited to militia service, nor is an individual's enjoyment of the right contingent" on enrollment in a militia. The ban on owning handguns went into effect in 1976. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit also threw out the district's requirement that registered firearms be kept unloaded, disassembled and under trigger lock. |
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we are #1in gun violence
"The U.S. is not the only country in which random acts of gun violence have erupted in seemingly everyday circumstances to destroy lives, families and communities," said Britain's Guardian newspaper. "But the U.S. is one of the few countries that seems collectively unwilling and politically incapable of doing anything serious to stop such things happening again."The slayings Monday at Virginia Tech reinforced a perception that in the U.S., it is "as easy to buy weapons as a loaf of bread," in the words of one Russian woman on a Moscow street. "Any madman can get hold of a gun," said Natalya Ivanova, a 22-year-old secretary. The murder rate outside of the inner cities in the US is very close to the murder rate in Britain, and the inner cities are usually the areas with the most constrictive gun laws. |
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