Orbea Orca frame: bad test <-> Euskatel team frame

Hi,
I noticed the really nice looking Orbea Orca frame which the team
Euskatel uses.
I found a test in the german "Tour-Magazin" 1/2004. They said: "It is
the worth frame we ever had below under saddle."
So what?
Is Euskatel really using bad equipment or don't they use the same type a
normal customer can buy?

Any experiences with this frame?

Greetings from Germany, Bernd

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Hi,
I noticed the really nice looking Orbea Orca frame which the team
Euskatel uses.
I found a test in the german "Tour-Magazin" 1/2004. They said: "It is
the worth frame we ever had below under saddle."
So what?
Is Euskatel really using bad equipment or don't they use the same type a
normal customer can buy?

Any experiences with this frame?

Greetings from Germany, Bernd


Not far from you, in France, the same frame was voted as bike of the year,
by Le Cycle. The final was between this one and the Kuota Krédo and the
LOOK 486. A jury of 10 (?), including readers and journalists, tested all
the bikes over several tries, and that was the result. I have not ridden
this one, but the Kuota, and adore it. I can't imagine why your magazine
was so negative. Perhaps if you read the French one, you could get an idea
of the criteria for their decision and compare the articles.
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Bonne route,

Sandy
Paris FR

SMMB schrieb:

Not far from you, in France, the same frame was voted as bike of the year,
by Le Cycle. The final was between this one and the Kuota Krédo and the
LOOK 486. A jury of 10 (?), including readers and journalists, tested all
the bikes over several tries, and that was the result.

OK, with google.fr I found:
http://www.velo101.com/actualite/def...&Section=Route
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=1914

Do you have any other link for this topic?

I can't imagine why your magazine
was so negative. Perhaps if you read the French one, you could get an idea
of the criteria for their decision and compare the articles.

I can't either. They say it is very unstable at high velocity.

B.

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read the cyclingnews.com review or the prez review:
http://www.procyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=1914
Never heard of "Tour-Magazin."

Bernd Muent wrote:
Hi,
I noticed the really nice looking Orbea Orca frame which the team
Euskatel uses.
I found a test in the german "Tour-Magazin" 1/2004. They said: "It is
the worth frame we ever had below under saddle."
So what?
Is Euskatel really using bad equipment or don't they use the same type a
normal customer can buy?

Any experiences with this frame?

Greetings from Germany, Bernd

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 06:45:25 -0500, Gary
wrote:
Never heard of "Tour-Magazin."

Do you want a prize for that?

JT

Yes, please. But what's your point?

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 06:45:25 -0500, Gary
wrote:

Never heard of "Tour-Magazin."


Do you want a prize for that?

JT

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 06:45:25 -0500, Gary wrote:
Never heard of "Tour-Magazin."

http://www.tour-magazin.de/to/tour_a...d=27&subnav=21

I noticed the really nice looking Orbea Orca frame which the team
Euskatel uses.
I found a test in the german "Tour-Magazin" 1/2004. They said: "It is
the worth frame we ever had below under saddle."
So what?
Is Euskatel really using bad equipment or don't they use the same type a
normal customer can buy?

Any experiences with this frame?

Pro Cycling or Cycle Sport recently had a review of the Orbea Orca
frame. Chris Boardman was the reviewer. The opinion was it was an
OK, average, not all that exciting bike. Nothing bad mentioned in the
review. Just the impression it was not a fantastic, heart pounding,
adrenaline pumping bike, compared to some of the other super high end
bikes reviewed and ridden by Boardman.

"Russell Seaton" wrote in message
om...
I noticed the really nice looking Orbea Orca frame which the
team
Euskatel uses.
I found a test in the german "Tour-Magazin" 1/2004. They
said: "It is
the worth frame we ever had below under saddle."
So what?
Is Euskatel really using bad equipment or don't they use the
same type a
normal customer can buy?

Any experiences with this frame?

Pro Cycling or Cycle Sport recently had a review of the Orbea
Orca
frame. Chris Boardman was the reviewer. The opinion was it
was an
OK, average, not all that exciting bike. Nothing bad mentioned
in the
review. Just the impression it was not a fantastic, heart
pounding,
adrenaline pumping bike, compared to some of the other super
high end
bikes reviewed and ridden by Boardman.

So, just out of curiosity, what bikes fall into the "fantastic,
heart pounding,
adrenaline pumping bike" category. That sounds like more of a
description of a mountain descent than a bike. -- Jay Beattie.

On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:06:39 -0700, "Jay Beattie"
wrote:

So, just out of curiosity, what bikes fall into the "fantastic,
heart pounding,
adrenaline pumping bike" category. That sounds like more of a
description of a mountain descent than a bike. -- Jay Beattie.

If you're not fixated on the word 'fantastic', almost any bike with a
loose headset and a long downhill can take care of the rest.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...