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DfT 'cycle facility' consultation. Last Chance to respond!
Hi Folks,
You may recall that the DfT is doing some consultation regarding LTN 1/04 Policy, Planning and Design for Walking and Cycling and LTN 2/04 Adjacent and Shared Use Facilities for Pedestrians and Cyclists. See http://tinyurl.com/5gn6m The consultation period closes on 13th August, so if you wanted to comment it needs to be done this week. For anyone interested my own response is available at http://www.thebikezone.org.uk/downlo...le-WalkLTN.pdf It is worth passing comment on 1/04 as it gives advice to local authorities on the use of 'pinch points', the creation of road side 'cycle paths' and so on! Regards, Howard. |
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DfT 'cycle facility' consultation. Last Chance to respond!
Howard,
a masterful summation of all the arguments, congratulations and thank you for posting. I will plagarise shamelessly! Long time no see: how you doing? I think the last time I saw you was when you produced a birthday cake at the CTC Rights Committee, some years ago. cheers Rich Burton "Howard" wrote in message om... Hi Folks, You may recall that the DfT is doing some consultation regarding LTN 1/04 Policy, Planning and Design for Walking and Cycling and LTN 2/04 Adjacent and Shared Use Facilities for Pedestrians and Cyclists. See http://tinyurl.com/5gn6m The consultation period closes on 13th August, so if you wanted to comment it needs to be done this week. For anyone interested my own response is available at http://www.thebikezone.org.uk/downlo...le-WalkLTN.pdf It is worth passing comment on 1/04 as it gives advice to local authorities on the use of 'pinch points', the creation of road side 'cycle paths' and so on! Regards, Howard. |
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DfT 'cycle facility' consultation. Last Chance to respond!
"burt" wrote in message
Long time no see: how you doing? I think the last time I saw you was when you produced a birthday cake at the CTC Rights Committee, some years ago. cheers Rich Burton Sorry, Whoever that was, it wasn't me! Howard. |
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DfT 'cycle facility' consultation. Last Chance to respond!
Howard wrote:
It is worth passing comment on 1/04 as it gives advice to local authorities on the use of 'pinch points', the creation of road side 'cycle paths' and so on! Interested in your comment about speed cushions on the approach to pinch points rather than at them. Any particular reason? I am scratching my head over what to do about a couple of 3m ones near me. I probably won't be able to remove them because of pedestrians. The road in question is 30 limit, slopes, and has frequent white van traffic and some HGVs. Colin McKenzie -- The great advantage of not trusting statistics is that it leaves you free to believe the damned lies instead! |
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DfT 'cycle facility' consultation. Last Chance to respond!
in message , Colin
McKenzie ') wrote: Howard wrote: It is worth passing comment on 1/04 as it gives advice to local authorities on the use of 'pinch points', the creation of road side 'cycle paths' and so on! Interested in your comment about speed cushions on the approach to pinch points rather than at them. Any particular reason? I am scratching my head over what to do about a couple of 3m ones near me. I probably won't be able to remove them because of pedestrians. The road in question is 30 limit, slopes, and has frequent white van traffic and some HGVs. Chicanes with good strong bollards will stop the HGVs - unless they are actually needed to make deliveries. And just putting really strong bollards across the road at 2.4m centres will slow traffic down wonderfully, particularly if you slightly stagger every second row. Or get the gas company to dig random three metre by three metre by three metre deep holes in the road and just forget to fill them in again. -- (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ ;; Perl ... is the Brittney Spears of programming - easily accessible ;; but, in the final analysis, empty of any significant thought ;; Frank Adrian on Slashdot, 21st July 2003 |
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DfT 'cycle facility' consultation. Last Chance to respond!
Colin McKenzie wrote in message
Interested in your comment about speed cushions on the approach to pinch points rather than at them. Any particular reason? I am scratching my head over what to do about a couple of 3m ones near me. I probably won't be able to remove them because of pedestrians. The road in question is 30 limit, slopes, and has frequent white van traffic and some HGVs. Colin McKenzie Hi Colin, The idea of having speed cushions on the approach to a 'pinch point is that the driver who waits behind a cyclist (as they should) is able to 'straddle' the cushion. The driver who attempts to overtake just before the island and pull in front of the cyclist will have to run over the centre of the cushion in order to do so, and so some drivers may be deterred from attempting to overtake. If a central island serves pedestrians why not replace it with a proper pedestrian facility such as a 'Zebra' or signal controlled crossing? These serve the needs of pedestrian much better than an island which are used largely to stop pedestrians 'interrupting' the traffic flow. The 'user' hierarchy recommenced by the DfT places the needs of pedestrian above that of motor vehicle users so providing a proper crossing facility is only in line with best practice. You could try to request that 'Do not overtake cyclist at traffic island' signs be put up along with a 1.25m cycle lane marked in green. Drivers will still attempt to overtake but if one hits you such markings would make it much easier to take action against them in court. See http://www.thebikezone.org.uk/thebik...nchpoints.html Regards, Howard. |
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DfT 'cycle facility' consultation. Last Chance to respond!
On 11 Aug 2004 11:47:04 -0700, Howard wrote:
If a central island serves pedestrians why not replace it with a proper pedestrian facility such as a 'Zebra' Near us we have a zebra with a central island on a single carriageway road. 200 yards down the road is a lights crossing. 200 yards the other way is a zebra with no island, 20 yards after that is a mini- roundabout. Nothing like consistency. -- Andy Leighton = "The Lord is my shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials" - Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_ |
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