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Old May 5th 08, 11:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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http://www.railstotrails.org/newsand...nth/index.html
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Old May 6th 08, 12:19 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On May 5, 6:59*pm, datakoll wrote:
http://www.railstotrails.org/newsand...nth/index.html


here's another bike path with lousy weather

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path...yshore-Bikeway
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Old May 6th 08, 12:32 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Gene Daniels wrote:

http://www.railstotrails.org/newsand...nth/index.html

here's another bike path with lousy weather


http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path...yshore-Bikeway

Nice peaceful picture but the sad part is that the USA with its auto
oriented culture cannot see that they are giving away transit
corridors right and left to never return as they make hiking and
bicycling paths of them. These routes are difficult to make today
with all the built up infrastructure around inhabited area.

These rights-of-way were laid out when this was all open space. Today
transit corridors have been demolished and converted to private
property and public trails. Historically no trail has been take back
for badly needed transit and long distance travel by rail.

This is common all over the USA and in the SF area disrupted RR ROW
lie dormant or converted all over. I would prefer putting in transit
and a bike path parallel to it.

Jobst Brandt
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Old May 6th 08, 12:36 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Gene Daniels wrote:

http://www.railstotrails.org/newsand...nth/index.html

here's another bike path with lousy weather


http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path...yshore-Bikeway

Nice peaceful picture but the sad part is that the USA with its auto
oriented culture cannot see the need for transit and are giving away
these corridors right and left to never return as they make hiking and
bicycling paths of them. These routes are difficult to make today
with all the built up infrastructure around inhabited area.

These rights-of-way were laid out when this was all open space. Today
transit corridors have been demolished and converted to private
property and public trails. Historically no trail has been converted
back for badly needed transit and long distance travel by rail.

This is common all over the USA and in the SF area many disrupted RR
ROW's lie dormant or converted. I would prefer putting in transit and
a bike path parallel to it.

Jobst Brandt
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Old May 6th 08, 01:00 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Jobst Brandt wrote:

These rights-of-way were laid out when this was all open space. Today
transit corridors have been demolished and converted to private
property and public trails. Historically no trail has been take back
for badly needed transit and long distance travel by rail.

This is common all over the USA and in the SF area disrupted RR ROW
lie dormant or converted all over. I would prefer putting in transit
and a bike path parallel to it.


Don't worry too much about it-- it won't be long until there is far
more Interstate and US Highway right-of-way than we have a practical
use for. Running rail down the middle will redeem some of the
overcapacity and make good use of all those over- and underpasses in
the process.

Chalo
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Old May 6th 08, 02:16 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Bike paths give an urban area a bit more lung capacity.
I read where new car buyers are working on hi mileage loans. But not
that high. I’ll bet $200/barrel brings out the mass transit crowd
minus mag-lev hooooha. BYOG *

http://www.railtrails.org/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Moses

http://www.ipdusa.com/Volvo-544-PV/c-1-77/
ahhh those were the days: New interstates and nooooooo traffic, not
much smog. $1.05 ? custom imperail supreme red eye ? roooort rooort
oh well

*bring your own goat

puhlease datakoll at datakoll amrine research
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Old May 6th 08, 02:23 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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what the Madison piece needs are A. Muzi's photos of junkies and
drunks standing around his shop asshole deep in snow
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Old May 6th 08, 03:00 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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datakoll aka gene daniels wrote:
what the Madison piece needs are A. Muzi's photos of junkies and
drunks standing around his shop asshole deep in snow


Hey, I used to rent a room in a house full of those junkies and drunks
(near the intersection of Wilson, Henry and Hamilton). One guy walked
down to the liquor store every morning to buy a fifth of Jack, which he
drank until he passed out.

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Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Old May 6th 08, 03:36 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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right. the good the bad the drunk and Sherman.

Moses, as mentioned before in less tense millyew, the Cold War
architect of NYC highways, (NYC was the world capital), built the road
to Long Island under a bridge too low to pass a city bus.

People are pigs, some are piggier than others. Still a limiting factor
for narrow gauge inner city rail ? What was that place called ?
'Sanctuary' ? Aldous Huxley et al. Its ok building urban rail for
models and accountants but who would build UR for junkies and drunks?
Not Moses.

I believe the electric skate board has a future. Butt first, a
governer. ENOUGH BONNEVILLE ELECTRIC SKATEBOARDING ALREADY !

Is there a Moses architect of electric skate boards, bicycle and
narrow gauge?

I broached the subject here in Florida for the Beeline from Orlando to
the Sapce Coast. Answer: cost of policing a parallel bike path was
astronomical and problematic.

There is a formative rail trail from Titusville to Sanford ( no T )
across the great St Johns swamp. Off course, it's entertainment not
transportation. Moses, architect of electric skateboards, would mix
the two. And limit exposure...that's a trick.

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Old May 6th 08, 04:26 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Chalo Colina wrote:

These rights-of-way were laid out when this was all open space. Today
transit corridors have been demolished and converted to private
property and public trails. Historically no trail has been take back
for badly needed transit and long distance travel by rail.


This is common all over the USA and in the SF area disrupted RR ROW
lie dormant or converted all over. I would prefer putting in transit
and a bike path parallel to it.


Don't worry too much about it-- it won't be long until there is far
more Interstate and US Highway right-of-way than we have a practical
use for. Running rail down the middle will redeem some of the
overcapacity and make good use of all those over- and underpasses in
the process.


That's an awful place to put rail corridors although it has been done
for rapid transit in many places. The stations are hard to reach and
people shy away from going out there in the netherworld of whizzing
cars and trucks. The classic train station that attracts people is the one shown in Wausau insurance ads.

http://tinyurl.com/5heulp
http://www.flickr.com/photos/84263554@N00/441073761

Chicago Milwaukee St. Paul & Pacific, (Milwaukee Road), a fallen flag
along with so may other famous ones like NY Central, PRR (Pensy), CB&Q
(Burlington), Southern Pacific, Western Pacific, DR&RGW (Rio Grand)...
This is not a country of railways and public transportation, but one
of cars and trucks with roaring 24hr freeways.

Jobst Brandt
 




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