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Strange fatigue again...? (long)
When was the last time you checked your blood pressure at the doctors...
i dont know if you were being sarcastic when you called yourself a fatty. but how fat are you really. i assume not that fat because you are riding so much. I might also ask not lack of food. but what types of food have you eaten. out of the normal day to day stuff that you eat without getting this effect on your body. how much water did you drink that day ? dehydration can hit you like that. light headedness dizzyness. even neaseas. have a look..try some self diagnosis. analysis..im only generalising im only 20 years old and never passed a year of high school.. but dont rule these symptoms out. could be dangerous to your health long term, could be something major. or something not so major like the above mentioned. good luck "hippy" wrote in message ... (x-posted: aus.bicycle, rec.bicycles.misc) I've written about this before but it happened again and it was worse than previous occasions so I'm posting about it again. From last weekend: Sat: Solo 52k on new mtb singlespeed (32/15 gearing = hard) Sun: Solo 100k on roadbike except fast Beach Rd. bit in middle swapping turns with someone in Fitzroy Cycles kit into strong headwind. Really pushed hard at the end too, to get under 4hrs. (hard) Mon: 26k each way commute on singlespeed (hard) Tue: 26k x 2 commute on 'normal' mtb after nearly losing manhood on toptube after throwing the chain on singlespeed! (easy?) Wed: 26k in-bound on normal mtb at easy pace, no problems... On the way home wed night though, about 15 minutes and 5k's into the ride I was feeling totally light-headed and dizzy. My body felt strange and "light" also. Not fatigued like "I've done 100k and now my legs feel like lead" fatigued, it was a strange 'lack of energy' all over body weakness. It felt like I was going to fall asleep and I was in the granny ring doing, like 15kph or something! Now, if you know me, you'll know that I don't stop during rides, basically ever. In three years commuting I would have stopped a ride maybe 10 times due to punctures or meeting somone I knew and chatting. You'd also know that there is no way in hell I'd ever pay the over inflated service station prices for anything... Well, I was so weak, I had to sit down on the footpath for 10mins! To get going again, I bought some chocolate from a servo.. now that's totally against normal behaviour for me, but like I said, my body had this strange wash of numbness over it and I just couldn't go on without doing something about it - like resting and eating. Now, you might be thinking "oh, well you bonked" and I would think the same thing, but I've done a long ride with no food before and know what that bonk was like for me - "I don't want to continue, someone just come and drive me home!" and then I eat and wait and i'm all good again. This was different with the whole light-headedness and I still wanted to ride, just couldn't. Also, I'd eaten stacks that day! I was scoffing those new Milo breakfast cereal flakes straight from the box all afternoon! (I am a freak when it comes to food consumption though.. no wonder I'm a fatty!). Anyway after the rest and the snack I felt a bit better and ended up riding home, in a reasonable time minus the stop. So, I know I've asked this before and I'll probably get similar answers (lack of food, etc) but are there any other possibilities? How much does lack of sleep effect your performance over time? How much sleep do most people get anyway? We are supposed to get 8-10 hours a day but does anyone even get near that?! Thanks for any suggestions! hippy ( not the ganja smoking, acid munching variety either! ;-) ) |
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Hippy I'll second Mitch - visit the doctor ASAP, I was a very keen Audax rider building up to attempt the Paris-Brest in 99. In late 98 I completed a solo 400Km ride in 26 hours on $500 Giant hybrid Early 99 I did the 200K Alpine classic, on an MTB. I weighed 100kg, (182cm) the lightest I had been for 10 years. and was the fittest I could ever rememember being. By mid 99 though riding a better custom-fitted road bike, I started to find myself dropping of the back of the peloton on a 300K Audax ride in the Strathbogies. Not quite light headed but definately no energy despite eating & drinking properly. I never consulted my doctor about the lack of energy I just assumed wasn't training properly because of winter and it would pick up in spring. I started filing to complete more & more winter Audax rides. By Cup Day 99 I was in hospital following a severe angina attack. Before the year was out, I had an angiogram showing 3 blockages of 80% 60% and 40% to arteries around my heart and was admitted for heart surgery. This mightn't be you but PLEASE go to your health provider and explain all your symptoms. Best of health, Pete When was the last time you checked your blood pressure at the doctors... snipped for Brevity but dont rule these symptoms out. could be dangerous to your health long term, could be something major. or something not so major like the above mentioned. good luck Mitch Pollard wrote: "hippy" wrote in message ... (x-posted: aus.bicycle, rec.bicycles.misc) I've written about this before but it happened again and it was worse than previous occasions so I'm posting about it again. From last weekend: Sat: Solo 52k on new mtb singlespeed (32/15 gearing = hard) Sun: Solo 100k on roadbike except fast Beach Rd. bit in middle swapping turns with someone in Fitzroy Cycles kit into strong headwind. Really pushed hard at the end too, to get under 4hrs. (hard) Mon: 26k each way commute on singlespeed (hard) Tue: 26k x 2 commute on 'normal' mtb after nearly losing manhood on toptube after throwing the chain on singlespeed! (easy?) Wed: 26k in-bound on normal mtb at easy pace, no problems... On the way home wed night though, about 15 minutes and 5k's into the ride I was feeling totally light-headed and dizzy. My body felt strange and "light" also. Not fatigued like "I've done 100k and now my legs feel like lead" fatigued, it was a strange 'lack of energy' all over body weakness. It felt like I was going to fall asleep and I was in the granny ring doing, like 15kph or something! Now, if you know me, you'll know that I don't stop during rides, basically ever. In three years commuting I would have stopped a ride maybe 10 times due to punctures or meeting somone I knew and chatting. You'd also know that there is no way in hell I'd ever pay the over inflated service station prices for anything... Well, I was so weak, I had to sit down on the footpath for 10mins! To get going again, I bought some chocolate from a servo.. now that's totally against normal behaviour for me, but like I said, my body had this strange wash of numbness over it and I just couldn't go on without doing something about it - like resting and eating. Now, you might be thinking "oh, well you bonked" and I would think the same thing, but I've done a long ride with no food before and know what that bonk was like for me - "I don't want to continue, someone just come and drive me home!" and then I eat and wait and i'm all good again. This was different with the whole light-headedness and I still wanted to ride, just couldn't. Also, I'd eaten stacks that day! I was scoffing those new Milo breakfast cereal flakes straight from the box all afternoon! (I am a freak when it comes to food consumption though.. no wonder I'm a fatty!). Anyway after the rest and the snack I felt a bit better and ended up riding home, in a reasonable time minus the stop. So, I know I've asked this before and I'll probably get similar answers (lack of food, etc) but are there any other possibilities? How much does lack of sleep effect your performance over time? How much sleep do most people get anyway? We are supposed to get 8-10 hours a day but does anyone even get near that?! Thanks for any suggestions! hippy ( not the ganja smoking, acid munching variety either! ;-) ) |
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:42:23 +1000, hippy wrote:
95kg and 180cm, I think that's borderline obese using BMI? Don't go by BMI. That is absurd, since the weight recommendations are linear with respect to height. I possibly had more foods that were high in sugar that day. Could be the problem -- David L. Johnson __o | You will say Christ saith this and the apostles say this; but _`\(,_ | what canst thou say? -- George Fox. (_)/ (_) | |
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I don't disagree with anything said. However this is a good place to get
advice about bottom brackets, training etc. In your case you have a health problem and you need to get yourself to a doctor and have a blood test. The reason Men live ten years less than Women is partly because we get health advice from our "mates" rather than a doctor. Get your medicare card and get on your bike! "hippy" wrote in message ... (x-posted: aus.bicycle, rec.bicycles.misc) I've written about this before but it happened again and it was worse than previous occasions so I'm posting about it again. From last weekend: Sat: Solo 52k on new mtb singlespeed (32/15 gearing = hard) Sun: Solo 100k on roadbike except fast Beach Rd. bit in middle swapping turns with someone in Fitzroy Cycles kit into strong headwind. Really pushed hard at the end too, to get under 4hrs. (hard) Mon: 26k each way commute on singlespeed (hard) Tue: 26k x 2 commute on 'normal' mtb after nearly losing manhood on toptube after throwing the chain on singlespeed! (easy?) Wed: 26k in-bound on normal mtb at easy pace, no problems... On the way home wed night though, about 15 minutes and 5k's into the ride I was feeling totally light-headed and dizzy. My body felt strange and "light" also. Not fatigued like "I've done 100k and now my legs feel like lead" fatigued, it was a strange 'lack of energy' all over body weakness. It felt like I was going to fall asleep and I was in the granny ring doing, like 15kph or something! Now, if you know me, you'll know that I don't stop during rides, basically ever. In three years commuting I would have stopped a ride maybe 10 times due to punctures or meeting somone I knew and chatting. You'd also know that there is no way in hell I'd ever pay the over inflated service station prices for anything... Well, I was so weak, I had to sit down on the footpath for 10mins! To get going again, I bought some chocolate from a servo.. now that's totally against normal behaviour for me, but like I said, my body had this strange wash of numbness over it and I just couldn't go on without doing something about it - like resting and eating. Now, you might be thinking "oh, well you bonked" and I would think the same thing, but I've done a long ride with no food before and know what that bonk was like for me - "I don't want to continue, someone just come and drive me home!" and then I eat and wait and i'm all good again. This was different with the whole light-headedness and I still wanted to ride, just couldn't. Also, I'd eaten stacks that day! I was scoffing those new Milo breakfast cereal flakes straight from the box all afternoon! (I am a freak when it comes to food consumption though.. no wonder I'm a fatty!). Anyway after the rest and the snack I felt a bit better and ended up riding home, in a reasonable time minus the stop. So, I know I've asked this before and I'll probably get similar answers (lack of food, etc) but are there any other possibilities? How much does lack of sleep effect your performance over time? How much sleep do most people get anyway? We are supposed to get 8-10 hours a day but does anyone even get near that?! Thanks for any suggestions! hippy ( not the ganja smoking, acid munching variety either! ;-) ) |
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"Dodo" wrote in message ...
I know that sinking weak feeling all to well there are several possible causes 1. Over training , regardless of how fit you are you need to give your self at least one day a week off or your body will rebel. 2. Human vitality and energy is not linear you may be able to do a thousand klms in a week in one part of the year and not be able to get out of bed in another , get your self a biorythm calculator they can be very handy 3. You may be developing chronic fatigue ( hyopoglycimea low blood sugar ) and if you are do something about it NOW look at your eating habits if you eat a lot of "energy foods" with a lot of refined sugar you are in real danger of getting into a viscious circle of blood sugar fluctuations. Which won't kill you they will just make you wish you were dead trust me I just had all my teeth out because of this condition. 4. You may be alergic to something you are eating and it is finally begging to catch up with you Regards I think he's just gone hypoglycemic in those instances. Overtraining/chronic fatigue didn't make me feel light headed - just continually sick :-( |
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"hippy" wrote in message ... "Mitch Pollard" wrote in message . au... When was the last time you checked your blood pressure at the doctors... It was "normal" probably 12 months ago. i dont know if you were being sarcastic when you called yourself a fatty. but how fat are you really. i assume not that fat because you are riding so much. 95kg and 180cm, I think that's borderline obese using BMI? NOT THE BMI nazis at work again!!! 110kgs and 190cm isn't obese and I challenge any man to say it is!!!! Karl aka Stomper |
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"Stomper" wrote in message ... "hippy" wrote in message ... "Mitch Pollard" wrote in message . au... When was the last time you checked your blood pressure at the doctors... It was "normal" probably 12 months ago. i dont know if you were being sarcastic when you called yourself a fatty. but how fat are you really. i assume not that fat because you are riding so much. 95kg and 180cm, I think that's borderline obese using BMI? NOT THE BMI nazis at work again!!! 110kgs and 190cm isn't obese and I challenge any man to say it is!!!! Fat arse! Regards, Tim (193cm, 108kg, 10% body fat, borderline overweight/obese) From nih,gov: BMI is a reliable indicator of total body fat, which is related to the risk of disease and death. The score is valid for both men and women but it does have some limits. The limits a a.. It may overestimate body fat in athletes and others who have a muscular build. b.. It may underestimate body fat in older persons and others who have lost muscle mass. |
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 23:04:08 +1000 in rec.bicycles.misc, "hippy"
wrote: I've written about this before but it happened again and it was worse than previous occasions so I'm posting about it again. SEE YOUR DOCTOR. talk to someone whose job it is to look at the symptoms, order the correct tests, and make a diagnosis. SEE YOUR DOCTOR. DO *NOT* PUT IT OFF, DO *NOT* WAIT. DO IT NOW. |
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Chem-trails
"hippy" wrote in message ... (x-posted: aus.bicycle, rec.bicycles.misc) I've written about this before but it happened again and it was worse than previous occasions so I'm posting about it again. From last weekend: Sat: Solo 52k on new mtb singlespeed (32/15 gearing = hard) Sun: Solo 100k on roadbike except fast Beach Rd. bit in middle swapping turns with someone in Fitzroy Cycles kit into strong headwind. Really pushed hard at the end too, to get under 4hrs. (hard) Mon: 26k each way commute on singlespeed (hard) Tue: 26k x 2 commute on 'normal' mtb after nearly losing manhood on toptube after throwing the chain on singlespeed! (easy?) Wed: 26k in-bound on normal mtb at easy pace, no problems... On the way home wed night though, about 15 minutes and 5k's into the ride I was feeling totally light-headed and dizzy. My body felt strange and "light" also. Not fatigued like "I've done 100k and now my legs feel like lead" fatigued, it was a strange 'lack of energy' all over body weakness. It felt like I was going to fall asleep and I was in the granny ring doing, like 15kph or something! Now, if you know me, you'll know that I don't stop during rides, basically ever. In three years commuting I would have stopped a ride maybe 10 times due to punctures or meeting somone I knew and chatting. You'd also know that there is no way in hell I'd ever pay the over inflated service station prices for anything... Well, I was so weak, I had to sit down on the footpath for 10mins! To get going again, I bought some chocolate from a servo.. now that's totally against normal behaviour for me, but like I said, my body had this strange wash of numbness over it and I just couldn't go on without doing something about it - like resting and eating. Now, you might be thinking "oh, well you bonked" and I would think the same thing, but I've done a long ride with no food before and know what that bonk was like for me - "I don't want to continue, someone just come and drive me home!" and then I eat and wait and i'm all good again. This was different with the whole light-headedness and I still wanted to ride, just couldn't. Also, I'd eaten stacks that day! I was scoffing those new Milo breakfast cereal flakes straight from the box all afternoon! (I am a freak when it comes to food consumption though.. no wonder I'm a fatty!). Anyway after the rest and the snack I felt a bit better and ended up riding home, in a reasonable time minus the stop. So, I know I've asked this before and I'll probably get similar answers (lack of food, etc) but are there any other possibilities? How much does lack of sleep effect your performance over time? How much sleep do most people get anyway? We are supposed to get 8-10 hours a day but does anyone even get near that?! Thanks for any suggestions! hippy ( not the ganja smoking, acid munching variety either! ;-) ) |
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Hippy wrote:
(x-posted: aus.bicycle, rec.bicycles.misc) I've written about this before but it happened again and it was worse than previous occasions so I'm posting about it again. On the way home wed night though, about 15 minutes and 5k's into the ride I was feeling totally light-headed and dizzy. My body felt strange and "light" also. Not fatigued like "I've done 100k and now my legs feel like lead" fatigued, it was a strange 'lack of energy' all over body weakness. It felt like I was going to fall asleep and I was in the granny ring doing, like 15kph or something! Hi Hippy -- your symptoms as described sounds very familiar to me. I am a diabetic and you really need to see a doctor ASAP. Please don't "wait and see". You had this happen before and 5km and 15 mins probably isn't enough to give you low blood sugar, particularly where you'd been eating carbs that day. Sustained high blood sugar is as exhausting (actually moreso) than low glucose levels. -- Insanity has its price -- Please have exact change. -------------------------- Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com |
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