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Old August 21st 03, 03:20 PM
Mitch Pollard
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When was the last time you checked your blood pressure at the doctors...
i dont know if you were being sarcastic when you called yourself a fatty.
but how fat are you really. i assume not that fat because you are riding so
much.

I might also ask not lack of food. but what types of food have you eaten.
out of the normal day to day stuff that you eat without getting this effect
on your body.

how much water did you drink that day ? dehydration can hit you like that.
light headedness dizzyness. even neaseas. have a look..try some self
diagnosis. analysis..im only generalising im only 20 years old and never
passed a year of high school..
but dont rule these symptoms out. could be dangerous to your health long
term, could be something major. or something not so major like the above
mentioned. good luck


"hippy" wrote in message
...
(x-posted: aus.bicycle, rec.bicycles.misc)

I've written about this before but it happened again
and it was worse than previous occasions so I'm
posting about it again.

From last weekend:
Sat: Solo 52k on new mtb singlespeed (32/15 gearing = hard)
Sun: Solo 100k on roadbike except fast Beach Rd. bit in
middle swapping turns with someone in Fitzroy Cycles kit into
strong headwind. Really pushed hard at the end too, to get
under 4hrs. (hard)
Mon: 26k each way commute on singlespeed (hard)
Tue: 26k x 2 commute on 'normal' mtb after nearly losing
manhood on toptube after throwing the chain on
singlespeed! (easy?)
Wed: 26k in-bound on normal mtb at easy pace, no problems...

On the way home wed night though, about 15 minutes and 5k's
into the ride I was feeling totally light-headed and dizzy. My
body felt strange and "light" also. Not fatigued like "I've done
100k and now my legs feel like lead" fatigued, it was a strange
'lack of energy' all over body weakness. It felt like I was going
to fall asleep and I was in the granny ring doing, like 15kph or
something!
Now, if you know me, you'll know that I don't stop during
rides, basically ever. In three years commuting I would have
stopped a ride maybe 10 times due to punctures or meeting
somone I knew and chatting.
You'd also know that there is no way in hell I'd ever pay the
over inflated service station prices for anything...
Well, I was so weak, I had to sit down on the footpath for
10mins!
To get going again, I bought some chocolate from a servo..
now that's totally against normal behaviour for me, but like I
said, my body had this strange wash of numbness over it and
I just couldn't go on without doing something about it - like
resting and eating.
Now, you might be thinking "oh, well you bonked" and I
would think the same thing, but I've done a long ride with no
food before and know what that bonk was like for me - "I
don't want to continue, someone just come and drive me
home!" and then I eat and wait and i'm all good again. This
was different with the whole light-headedness and I still
wanted to ride, just couldn't.
Also, I'd eaten stacks that day! I was scoffing those new
Milo breakfast cereal flakes straight from the box all
afternoon! (I am a freak when it comes to food consumption
though.. no wonder I'm a fatty!).
Anyway after the rest and the snack I felt a bit better and
ended up riding home, in a reasonable time minus the stop.

So, I know I've asked this before and I'll probably get similar
answers (lack of food, etc) but are there any other possibilities?
How much does lack of sleep effect your performance over
time?
How much sleep do most people get anyway? We are
supposed to get 8-10 hours a day but does anyone even get
near that?!

Thanks for any suggestions!
hippy ( not the ganja smoking, acid munching variety either! ;-) )




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Old August 21st 03, 04:16 PM
Pete.B
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(Top-posted to get attention)

Hippy

I'll second Mitch - visit the doctor ASAP,

I was a very keen Audax rider building up to attempt the Paris-Brest in 99.
In late 98 I completed a solo 400Km ride in 26 hours on $500 Giant hybrid
Early 99 I did the 200K Alpine classic, on an MTB.
I weighed 100kg, (182cm) the lightest I had been for 10 years. and was the
fittest I could ever rememember being.

By mid 99 though riding a better custom-fitted road bike, I started to find
myself dropping of the back of the peloton on a 300K Audax ride in the

Strathbogies. Not quite light headed but definately no energy despite eating
& drinking properly.
I never consulted my doctor about the lack of energy I just assumed
wasn't training properly because of winter and it would pick up in spring.

I started filing to complete more & more winter Audax rides.

By Cup Day 99 I was in hospital following a severe angina attack.

Before the year was out, I had an angiogram showing 3 blockages of 80% 60%
and 40% to arteries around my heart and was admitted for heart surgery.

This mightn't be you but PLEASE go to your health provider and explain all
your symptoms.

Best of health,
Pete


When was the last time you checked your blood pressure at the doctors...

snipped for Brevity
but dont rule these symptoms out. could be dangerous to your health long
term, could be something major. or something not so major like the above
mentioned. good luck

Mitch Pollard wrote:



"hippy" wrote in message
...

(x-posted: aus.bicycle, rec.bicycles.misc)

I've written about this before but it happened again
and it was worse than previous occasions so I'm
posting about it again.

From last weekend:
Sat: Solo 52k on new mtb singlespeed (32/15 gearing = hard)
Sun: Solo 100k on roadbike except fast Beach Rd. bit in
middle swapping turns with someone in Fitzroy Cycles kit into
strong headwind. Really pushed hard at the end too, to get
under 4hrs. (hard)
Mon: 26k each way commute on singlespeed (hard)
Tue: 26k x 2 commute on 'normal' mtb after nearly losing
manhood on toptube after throwing the chain on
singlespeed! (easy?)
Wed: 26k in-bound on normal mtb at easy pace, no problems...

On the way home wed night though, about 15 minutes and 5k's
into the ride I was feeling totally light-headed and dizzy. My
body felt strange and "light" also. Not fatigued like "I've done
100k and now my legs feel like lead" fatigued, it was a strange
'lack of energy' all over body weakness. It felt like I was going
to fall asleep and I was in the granny ring doing, like 15kph or
something!
Now, if you know me, you'll know that I don't stop during
rides, basically ever. In three years commuting I would have
stopped a ride maybe 10 times due to punctures or meeting
somone I knew and chatting.
You'd also know that there is no way in hell I'd ever pay the
over inflated service station prices for anything...
Well, I was so weak, I had to sit down on the footpath for
10mins!
To get going again, I bought some chocolate from a servo..
now that's totally against normal behaviour for me, but like I
said, my body had this strange wash of numbness over it and
I just couldn't go on without doing something about it - like
resting and eating.
Now, you might be thinking "oh, well you bonked" and I
would think the same thing, but I've done a long ride with no
food before and know what that bonk was like for me - "I
don't want to continue, someone just come and drive me
home!" and then I eat and wait and i'm all good again. This
was different with the whole light-headedness and I still
wanted to ride, just couldn't.
Also, I'd eaten stacks that day! I was scoffing those new
Milo breakfast cereal flakes straight from the box all
afternoon! (I am a freak when it comes to food consumption
though.. no wonder I'm a fatty!).
Anyway after the rest and the snack I felt a bit better and
ended up riding home, in a reasonable time minus the stop.

So, I know I've asked this before and I'll probably get similar
answers (lack of food, etc) but are there any other possibilities?
How much does lack of sleep effect your performance over
time?
How much sleep do most people get anyway? We are
supposed to get 8-10 hours a day but does anyone even get
near that?!

Thanks for any suggestions!
hippy ( not the ganja smoking, acid munching variety either! ;-) )


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Old August 21st 03, 04:28 PM
David L. Johnson
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:42:23 +1000, hippy wrote:

95kg and 180cm, I think that's borderline obese using BMI?


Don't go by BMI. That is absurd, since the weight recommendations are
linear with respect to height.

I possibly had more foods that were high in sugar that day.


Could be the problem

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Old August 21st 03, 11:04 PM
Mark Sullivan
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I don't disagree with anything said. However this is a good place to get
advice about bottom brackets, training etc. In your case you have a health
problem and you need to get yourself to a doctor and have a blood test.

The reason Men live ten years less than Women is partly because we get
health advice from our "mates" rather than a doctor.

Get your medicare card and get on your bike!

"hippy" wrote in message
...
(x-posted: aus.bicycle, rec.bicycles.misc)

I've written about this before but it happened again
and it was worse than previous occasions so I'm
posting about it again.

From last weekend:
Sat: Solo 52k on new mtb singlespeed (32/15 gearing = hard)
Sun: Solo 100k on roadbike except fast Beach Rd. bit in
middle swapping turns with someone in Fitzroy Cycles kit into
strong headwind. Really pushed hard at the end too, to get
under 4hrs. (hard)
Mon: 26k each way commute on singlespeed (hard)
Tue: 26k x 2 commute on 'normal' mtb after nearly losing
manhood on toptube after throwing the chain on
singlespeed! (easy?)
Wed: 26k in-bound on normal mtb at easy pace, no problems...

On the way home wed night though, about 15 minutes and 5k's
into the ride I was feeling totally light-headed and dizzy. My
body felt strange and "light" also. Not fatigued like "I've done
100k and now my legs feel like lead" fatigued, it was a strange
'lack of energy' all over body weakness. It felt like I was going
to fall asleep and I was in the granny ring doing, like 15kph or
something!
Now, if you know me, you'll know that I don't stop during
rides, basically ever. In three years commuting I would have
stopped a ride maybe 10 times due to punctures or meeting
somone I knew and chatting.
You'd also know that there is no way in hell I'd ever pay the
over inflated service station prices for anything...
Well, I was so weak, I had to sit down on the footpath for
10mins!
To get going again, I bought some chocolate from a servo..
now that's totally against normal behaviour for me, but like I
said, my body had this strange wash of numbness over it and
I just couldn't go on without doing something about it - like
resting and eating.
Now, you might be thinking "oh, well you bonked" and I
would think the same thing, but I've done a long ride with no
food before and know what that bonk was like for me - "I
don't want to continue, someone just come and drive me
home!" and then I eat and wait and i'm all good again. This
was different with the whole light-headedness and I still
wanted to ride, just couldn't.
Also, I'd eaten stacks that day! I was scoffing those new
Milo breakfast cereal flakes straight from the box all
afternoon! (I am a freak when it comes to food consumption
though.. no wonder I'm a fatty!).
Anyway after the rest and the snack I felt a bit better and
ended up riding home, in a reasonable time minus the stop.

So, I know I've asked this before and I'll probably get similar
answers (lack of food, etc) but are there any other possibilities?
How much does lack of sleep effect your performance over
time?
How much sleep do most people get anyway? We are
supposed to get 8-10 hours a day but does anyone even get
near that?!

Thanks for any suggestions!
hippy ( not the ganja smoking, acid munching variety either! ;-) )




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Old August 22nd 03, 07:54 AM
D. Advocate
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"Dodo" wrote in message ...
I know that sinking weak feeling all to well there are several possible
causes

1. Over training , regardless of how fit you are you need to give your self
at least one day a week off or your body will rebel.

2. Human vitality and energy is not linear you may be able to do a thousand
klms in a week in one part of the year and not be able to get out of bed in
another , get your self a biorythm calculator they can be very handy

3. You may be developing chronic fatigue ( hyopoglycimea low blood sugar )
and if you are do something about it NOW look at your eating habits if you
eat a lot of "energy foods" with a lot of refined sugar you are in real
danger of getting into a viscious circle of blood sugar fluctuations. Which
won't kill you they will just make you wish you were dead trust me I just
had all my teeth out because of this condition.

4. You may be alergic to something you are eating and it is finally begging
to catch up with you

Regards


I think he's just gone hypoglycemic in those instances.
Overtraining/chronic fatigue didn't make me feel light headed - just
continually sick :-(
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Old August 23rd 03, 02:51 AM
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"hippy" wrote in message
...
"Mitch Pollard" wrote in message
. au...
When was the last time you checked your blood pressure at the doctors...


It was "normal" probably 12 months ago.

i dont know if you were being sarcastic when you called yourself a

fatty.
but how fat are you really. i assume not that fat because you are riding

so
much.


95kg and 180cm, I think that's borderline obese using BMI?


NOT THE BMI nazis at work again!!!

110kgs and 190cm isn't obese and I challenge any man to say it is!!!!

Karl aka Stomper




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Old August 23rd 03, 03:13 AM
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"Stomper" wrote in message
...

"hippy" wrote in message
...
"Mitch Pollard" wrote in message
. au...
When was the last time you checked your blood pressure at the

doctors...

It was "normal" probably 12 months ago.

i dont know if you were being sarcastic when you called yourself a

fatty.
but how fat are you really. i assume not that fat because you are

riding
so
much.


95kg and 180cm, I think that's borderline obese using BMI?


NOT THE BMI nazis at work again!!!

110kgs and 190cm isn't obese and I challenge any man to say it is!!!!


Fat arse!

Regards,

Tim (193cm, 108kg, 10% body fat, borderline overweight/obese)

From nih,gov:

BMI is a reliable indicator of total body fat, which is related to the risk
of disease and death. The score is valid for both men and women but it does
have some limits. The limits a

a.. It may overestimate body fat in athletes and others who have a
muscular build.
b.. It may underestimate body fat in older persons and others who have
lost muscle mass.



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Old August 23rd 03, 07:17 AM
Dennis P. Harris
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 23:04:08 +1000 in rec.bicycles.misc, "hippy"
wrote:

I've written about this before but it happened again
and it was worse than previous occasions so I'm
posting about it again.

SEE YOUR DOCTOR. talk to someone whose job it is to look at the
symptoms, order the correct tests, and make a diagnosis.

SEE YOUR DOCTOR. DO *NOT* PUT IT OFF, DO *NOT* WAIT. DO IT NOW.


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Old August 24th 03, 07:07 AM
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Chem-trails

"hippy" wrote in message
...
(x-posted: aus.bicycle, rec.bicycles.misc)

I've written about this before but it happened again
and it was worse than previous occasions so I'm
posting about it again.

From last weekend:
Sat: Solo 52k on new mtb singlespeed (32/15 gearing = hard)
Sun: Solo 100k on roadbike except fast Beach Rd. bit in
middle swapping turns with someone in Fitzroy Cycles kit into
strong headwind. Really pushed hard at the end too, to get
under 4hrs. (hard)
Mon: 26k each way commute on singlespeed (hard)
Tue: 26k x 2 commute on 'normal' mtb after nearly losing
manhood on toptube after throwing the chain on
singlespeed! (easy?)
Wed: 26k in-bound on normal mtb at easy pace, no problems...

On the way home wed night though, about 15 minutes and 5k's
into the ride I was feeling totally light-headed and dizzy. My
body felt strange and "light" also. Not fatigued like "I've done
100k and now my legs feel like lead" fatigued, it was a strange
'lack of energy' all over body weakness. It felt like I was going
to fall asleep and I was in the granny ring doing, like 15kph or
something!
Now, if you know me, you'll know that I don't stop during
rides, basically ever. In three years commuting I would have
stopped a ride maybe 10 times due to punctures or meeting
somone I knew and chatting.
You'd also know that there is no way in hell I'd ever pay the
over inflated service station prices for anything...
Well, I was so weak, I had to sit down on the footpath for
10mins!
To get going again, I bought some chocolate from a servo..
now that's totally against normal behaviour for me, but like I
said, my body had this strange wash of numbness over it and
I just couldn't go on without doing something about it - like
resting and eating.
Now, you might be thinking "oh, well you bonked" and I
would think the same thing, but I've done a long ride with no
food before and know what that bonk was like for me - "I
don't want to continue, someone just come and drive me
home!" and then I eat and wait and i'm all good again. This
was different with the whole light-headedness and I still
wanted to ride, just couldn't.
Also, I'd eaten stacks that day! I was scoffing those new
Milo breakfast cereal flakes straight from the box all
afternoon! (I am a freak when it comes to food consumption
though.. no wonder I'm a fatty!).
Anyway after the rest and the snack I felt a bit better and
ended up riding home, in a reasonable time minus the stop.

So, I know I've asked this before and I'll probably get similar
answers (lack of food, etc) but are there any other possibilities?
How much does lack of sleep effect your performance over
time?
How much sleep do most people get anyway? We are
supposed to get 8-10 hours a day but does anyone even get
near that?!

Thanks for any suggestions!
hippy ( not the ganja smoking, acid munching variety either! ;-) )




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Old August 24th 03, 10:23 AM
Brunswick_kate
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Hippy wrote:
(x-posted: aus.bicycle, rec.bicycles.misc)
I've written about this before but it happened again and it was worse
than previous occasions so I'm posting about it again.
On the way home wed night though, about 15 minutes and 5k's into the
ride I was feeling totally light-headed and dizzy. My body felt strange
and "light" also. Not fatigued like "I've done 100k and now my legs feel
like lead" fatigued, it was a strange 'lack of energy' all over body
weakness. It felt like I was going to fall asleep and I was in the
granny ring doing, like 15kph or something!




Hi Hippy -- your symptoms as described sounds very familiar to me. I am
a diabetic and you really need to see a doctor ASAP. Please don't "wait
and see". You had this happen before and 5km and 15 mins probably isn't
enough to give you low blood sugar, particularly where you'd been eating
carbs that day. Sustained high blood sugar is as exhausting (actually
moreso) than low glucose levels.



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