Bicyclists going wrong way and other crimes

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 01:41:55 GMT, S o r n i
wrote:

DTJ wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 13:29:44 -0700, Bill Baka wrote:

Hey, even I, the wrong way on one road guy, will not ride against
traffic in town. There are too many cars backing out of driveways,

If you are incapable of watching for cars in driveways on side
streets, you should not be on a bike at all.

Further, I watch both behind and in front of me. Should someone come
up in front, I am on the right side before they get there. Should
they come up from behind, I am on the left before they get there. If
someone is coming from both directions, I typically place myself near
a parked car to have some form of shielding. I don't see why anyone
should care that I do this.

OK, see, you just blew your troll. You had a fairly good flow of BS
goin'
there for a while, but you tried to take it a tad too far.

Bill "nice while it lasted tho'" S.

Too much posting to track who said what. I never zig zag from side to
side on a road with cars. I may be a free style rider but not with a
death wish.
Bill Baka




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Bill Baka wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 01:47:09 GMT, S o r n i
wrote:

Hunrobe wrote:
DTJ

wrote:

Huh? If you hit the door going the wrong way there is a chance you
will slam it into the driver and injure him/her as well.

Good. The asshole should have looked before opening the door.

Why should he have to look? Just because its the proper and legal
thing to do? Rather like riding with traffic? What a maroon.

Not just a maroon; a transparent troll.

Bill "latest spate of posts gave it away" S.


Nah, just reruns on the telly, so might as well be stirring it up on
the computer. Maroon? Somebody is old enough to remember Bugs Bunny.
Bill Baka

Bill, that's TWICE you've replied to my (obvious) comments about "DTJ" as if
they involved or were directed at you.

Bill "learn to read; learn to ride" S.

"Badger_South" wrote in message
...


What kind of pussy brags about hitting a pedestrian or biker? Oh, it's
you,
Bernard. ;-p


Have you read a single post in this freeking thread?

The *POINT* is that if you ride the wrong way,
you wil get HIT. I was not trying to hit a bike, I
certainly did not need the conversation with my
insurance company. The bike was where I had
no reason to expect someone to be, do ya get the point?

Bernard

DTJ wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 04:09:03 GMT, Chris BeHanna
wrote:

Bull****. Do the math:

Try it yourself.

Driver: 60mph (i.e., 88 feet / second)

If the driver is doing 60MPH in a residential area on a side street, I
DAMN WELL want to see him first, so I can get to safety.

You just keep going like an idiot expecting the drunk or otherwise
impaired driver to not hit you.

And you set yourself up so not just the drunk and impaired, but EVERY driver
is set up to hit you.

Austin

DTJ wrote:
I guess the point of this is that the idiots who pass laws based on
ignorance (almost all politicians) frequently forget that the world
does not operate in a single fashion at all times.

Everyone with real knowledge of the roads disagrees with you and agrees with
the politicians. You haven't done any research (that is extremely obvious
to those of us who have). Now, by definition, what does that make you?

I've said it before, and it is still true, no matter what you think. The
only people who should not be riding on the right (or left in a country
where traffic is on the left) are people incapable of comprehending or
obeying traffic law. Those people should not be riding on the street at
all.

Austin

DTJ snipped daming evidence in order to post the following ****:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 02:36:38 GMT, "AustinMN"
wrote:

You are the one who is not bothering to think. The vast majority of
car-bike accidents occur in intersections. A wrong-way bicycle rider is

Well damn. Since I don't bike through intersections your idiot logic
does not apply.

So you never leave a one-block area? You never cross driveways? What a
boring existence.

You are so full of **** it is unbelievable. I have never said that about
anyone ever before in my life, but it certainly applies here.

Get an enema. You'll be more comfortable afterwards.

Austin
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There are no X characters in my address

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 20:57:35 -0700, Bill Baka wrote:

Time for me to put my foot in my mouth again with the bicycle group.
All this stuff about reaction time is pretty irrelevant if you
are not looking in the rear view mirror all the time. It is just
the way it is that you will see somthing in front of you and react
to it, but an image in a mirror doesn't impact the brain the same
way.

Hardly. It isn't just your reaction time, it is that of the driver,
and it may make the difference between the driver being at a full stop
and hitting you at speed.

And it can be even more important on leisure rides in low traffic. A
rider going the same direction has more time to be seen, especially in
the case of a road with a lot of small curves. A rider going the wrong
way may see the driver (and be seen) for the first time in the curve
that they come together. Going the same direction and the rider may be
seen several times just before entering a curve before being
overtaken.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

In article , Bill Baka wrote:
On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 04:00:16 GMT, Brent P
wrote:

There is no law against wrong way shoulder or sidewalk riding since
that isn't part of the roadway. I just don't see what the problem
is.

What about walking on a country road with no bike/pedestrian path?

If you're on the roadway using a bicycle you are to be on the right
side unless it's a one way street.

I walk facing traffic sometimes.
Dangling a carrot in front of a group.
Bill Baka
Couldn't pass it up.

Unfortantly there are no laws in IL about peds on the roadway to the
best of my knowledge.

03 Aug 2004 17:36:56 GMT,
,
(Hunrobe) wrote:

Zoot Katz

wrote in part:

I've been an unabashedly
semi-rabid car basher the better part of my life

I don't know anyone in this NG (except maybe Red Cloud and other assorted
trolls and they hardly count) that would call you a "semi" rabid car basher,
Zoot. Rabid? Yes. Semi? No. g

Does that mean I'm making progress?

A car full of twerps threw something at me and turned. I wasn't hit so
I gave chase. It was dark and there was no traffic so they dropped me
pretty quick without my getting a good description of their vehicle.

When I went back to see what they'd thrown, there were two empty small
containers for fast food dipping sauces. Sweet and Sour and Barbecue.
There was none on me, my clothes or the pannier. The rear wheel and
tire had a few drops where it had rolled over one of the containers.

Now I'm trying to figure out how would somebody go about throwing one
of those things from a moving vehicle. They couldn't have thrown it
far when it was empty so I presume it was full. There weren't any
puddles of sauce on the road where the container might have hit and
burst so I figure they peeled back the tops of the containers before
throwing them. I'll bet that the genius in the back seat ended up
wearing more of it than I did.
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zk

Zoot Katz

wrote:


03 Aug 2004 17:36:56 GMT,
,
(Hunrobe) wrote:

Zoot Katz

wrote in part:

I've been an unabashedly
semi-rabid car basher the better part of my life

I don't know anyone in this NG (except maybe Red Cloud and other assorted
trolls and they hardly count) that would call you a "semi" rabid car basher,
Zoot. Rabid? Yes. Semi? No. g

Does that mean I'm making progress?

I calculate that you'll arrive at semi-rabid status eventually but it will
probably be a side effect of senility. g

Regards,
Bob Hunt