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The Andre Jute FAQ v1.0
Q: Why a Jute FAQ? A: To save newbies and casual vistors to RBT from wasting a lot of time on a serial troll. Q: Who is Andre Jute anyway? A: The only things known with reasonable certainty is that he was born in Oudtshoorn, South Africa in 1945 and, beginning in the 1980's he wrote and published a succession of books. Q: What sort of books? A: A number of thrillers, now all out of print and a number of "how to" manuals on writing, special automobile design and graphic design. Q: Are the books any good? A: No. Q: Isn't that just your opinion? A: If you don't want to believe me search www.abebooks.com under Andre Jute or his pen-name Andrew McCoy and buy some second-hand copies for yourself. Q: He seems like a very knowledgeable and experienced cyclist. What's not to like? A: He has lots of opinions; all calculated to prove that his current bicycle is the best of all possible bicycles and that anyone who likes a different sort of bike or a different sort of cycling is a fashion victim and a fool. Q: What sort of bike does he ride? A: Irrelevant to this FAQ. It changes from time to time but each one is the greatest bike ever and the only one anybody of discerning taste would ride. Q: Can't you give us a hint? A: Oh all right! Four years ago it was a Dutch city bike clunker. Two years ago it was a Trek comfort bike with Shimano Nexus automatic hub. Now it's a forty five pound German ladies bike with Rohloff hub and huge tyres. Q: I see Andre Jute refer to incidents in an adventurous life from time to time. Surely he's a man of great talent and wide experience? A: There is absolutely no independent confirmation of any of Jute's claims about what he's built or what he's done. He is a fluent liar with a certain basic competence in the English language so it is safe to say that any biographical details he lets drop are the product of a fantastic imagination. Q: What about his book "Designing and Building Special Cars"? That book was once placed in the hands of every junior engineer starting at a major US car manufacturer. A: It changes. One minute it's the Bible of every junior engineer, the next minute Jute made millions licensing it as a promotional giveaway for some un-named chain of US car parts stores. If you actually read it, it is full of cut-and-paste design information that could have been culled from anywhere and generic photos from special car builders. There is no evidence that Jute himself has ever approached a car with welding torch in hand. Q: What's wrong with trolling? Isn't it just a bit of gentle fun at the expense of the stuffed shirts on a newsgroup? A: It can be very damaging to the utility and enjoyment of an information and discussion group when a prolific troll attempts to make the group revolve around him. Andre Jute spent fifteen years doing it on various tube audio forums and he's attempting it again on RBT. Here's an academics take on trolling. "Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; the newsgroups members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings, and upon judging a poster a troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former depends on how well they - and the troll - understand identity cues; their success at the latter depends on whether the troll's enjoyment is sufficiently diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group. " For more start at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet) Q: Why not just killfile him? A: Many do. However, if you don't have a newsreader that kills entire threads you will see posts from readers who insist on replying to him and it makes the newsgroup look untidy. Q: Why not just have a bit of fun needling him? A: Sure, if you have a thick skin and can tolerate lies and being called everything from an ignoramus to a chronic masturbator. Be warned however, you will not "win". An obsessive troll like Jute has many tactics to ensure that they emerge victorious, ranging from introducing red herrings to simply announcing that they have "won" and retiring. If you are an experienced user you can enjoy identifying each tactic and even pointing them out. However, you won't stop him and you may gain a reputation as a troll yourself for encouraging him. Q: Is Andre Jute mentally ill? A: Who knows? It's a futile business doing amateur psychiatric diagnosis over the Internet and what would be the point? Some have suggested Munchausens syndrome but that's not exactly the invention of tall tales to gain attention. Narcissistic personality disorder might be more on the money. Again, what's the point? Especially when the literature reports that clinical treatment of NPD does not work well anyway. Q: Won't having a FAQ about him only reinforce Jute's opinion that he's a very important personality on Usenet? A: That's the risk we take. On balance, it's worthwhile warning newcomers to the group about him. |
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samvaknin wrote:
Cyber Narcissist http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/journal67.html awesome post! "Because it is still largely text-based, the Web is populated by disembodied entities. By interacting with these intermittent, unpredictable, ultimately unknowable, ephemeral, and ethereal voices – the narcissist is compelled to project unto them his own experiences, fears, hopes, and prejudices. The therapeutic process is set in motion by the – unbridled, uncensored, and brutally honest - reactions to the narcissist's repertory of antics, pretensions, delusions, and fantasies. The narcissist – ever the intimidating bully – is not accustomed to such resistance. Initially, it may heighten and sharpen his paranoia and lead him to compensate by extending and deepening his grandiosity. Some narcissists withdraw altogether, reverting to the schizoid posture. Others become openly antisocial and seek to subvert, sabotage, and destroy the online sources of their frustration. A few retreat and confine themselves to the company of adoring sycophants and unquestioning groupies." now /that/ is our darling andre - the killfile king! |
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Still Just Me wrote:
On Mon, 18 May 2009 05:57:43 -0700, jim beam wrote: samvaknin wrote: Cyber Narcissist http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/journal67.html awesome post! It's about you too - but you're too much of a narcissist to realize it. maybe you should look up that word in a dictionary? |
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On May 18, 1:31*pm, samvaknin wrote:
Cyber Narcissist http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/journal67.html LOL. I don't imagine even Shmuel Vaknin and ) would sink so low as to enter the stalker Peter Howard's threads merely to promote his {self- published) book. Howard is a wannabe writer who will never be published; he has been stalking me for a decade or more. His motivation is the same envy that ensures he will never be publishable. But what's so funny is that poor Howard and the other RBT clowns, who all claim to be experts on everything, when they choose an expert on narcissism choose a jailbird and financial crook, whose CV includes: "... in 1995 ... was tried for his role in an attempted takeover of Israel's Agriculture Bank [and, clearly, convicted because the next entry reads:] "Was interned [jailed!] in the State School of Prison Wardens. "Managed the Central School [Prison!} Library, wrote, published and lectured on various occasions [to the other prisoners?] [On release from jail in Israel] "Financial consultant to leading businesses in Macedonia, Russia and the Czech Republic." -- from http://samvak.tripod.com/cv.html Now, unlike Vaknin, I am actually a psychologist. And I would have to say, if asked, that anyone who, like Vaknin, seeks interviews and publicity but tries to hide the fact is -- a narcissist. Here is Vaknin "granting" interviews: "Interview granted to Misty Harris of CanWes" "Interview granted to Agencia Efe" "Interview granted to About.com" Source: http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/journal67.html Jesus, this man Vaknin has to seek out the truly minor media because the reputable print and television media won't have him -- and he's the RBT clowns' chosen expert on narcissism! He "grants" interviews like he's the Holy Spirit -- and he's the RBT clowns' chosen expert on narcissism! He tries to hide the fact that he's a compulsive publicity seeker -- and he's the RBT clowns' chosen expert on narcissism! He's a jailbird -- which on Professor Hare's scale is statistically very likely to put a narcissist into the the sociopathic category as well -- and he's the RBT clowns' chosen expert on narcissism! He can't interest a legitimate publisher in his book, so he self publishes it -- another surefire indicator of a narcissist, that he considers his opinion so important, he will pay to spread it -- and he's the RBT clowns' chosen expert on narcissism! Lovelly! By the way, I reckon Vaknin is right about Wikipedia, but then the difference between me and the RBT clowns is that I can see shades of grey, I don't demand that everything and everyone be either black or white. Andre Jute Never more brutal than he has to be -- Nelson Mandela PS: Keep it up boys! One of these days -- maybe even in the next decade or two -- you'll get lucky and one of you little pudding-pulls will do something right. Meanwhile, thanks for the giggles. |
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"Andre Jute" wrote in message ... On May 18, 1:31 pm, samvaknin wrote: Cyber Narcissist http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/journal67.html LOL. I don't imagine even Shmuel Vaknin and ) would sink so low as to enter the stalker Peter Howard's threads merely to promote his {self- published) book. Howard is a wannabe writer who will never be published; he has been stalking me for a decade or more. His motivation is the same envy that ensures he will never be publishable. snip Ya gotta larf. I've never ever claimed to have any aspirations to writing a book or being published. I have a real job and interests that keep me fully occupied and satisfied. Poking Jute with a sharp stick is just a hobby. In any case, how could I possibly be envious of a corpus of published work that is uniformly bad? No cigar, Monsieur Juteau. Try harder. PH |
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Peter Howard wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message ... On May 18, 1:31 pm, samvaknin wrote: Cyber Narcissist http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/journal67.html LOL. I don't imagine even Shmuel Vaknin and ) would sink so low as to enter the stalker Peter Howard's threads merely to promote his {self- published) book. Howard is a wannabe writer who will never be published; he has been stalking me for a decade or more. His motivation is the same envy that ensures he will never be publishable. snip Ya gotta larf. I've never ever claimed to have any aspirations to writing a book or being published. I have a real job and interests that keep me fully occupied and satisfied. Poking Jute with a sharp stick is just a hobby. In any case, how could I possibly be envious of a corpus of published work that is uniformly bad? [...] Vanity publications by the remittance man? -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll |
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