Electronic brake

https://bikerumor.com/2021/05/27/pat...rakes-but-why/
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Andrew Muzi
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On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 1:17:10 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
https://bikerumor.com/2021/05/27/pat...rakes-but-why/

As one of the commenters pointed out - you lose all feedback with a system like that and then have to regain it by putting a spring in the handle.

On 28/5/21 6:17 am, AMuzi wrote:
https://bikerumor.com/2021/05/27/pat...rakes-but-why/



Oops I didn't see your post until after I'd posted.

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On 5/27/2021 6:54 PM, James wrote:
On 28/5/21 6:17 am, AMuzi wrote:
https://bikerumor.com/2021/05/27/pat...rakes-but-why/



Oops I didn't see your post until after I'd posted.

Great minds think alike.

As do you and I.

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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 2:06:06 AM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/27/2021 6:54 PM, James wrote:
On 28/5/21 6:17 am, AMuzi wrote:
https://bikerumor.com/2021/05/27/pat...rakes-but-why/



Oops I didn't see your post until after I'd posted.

Great minds think alike.

As do you and I.
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As we boys high-fived all round, my favourite English teacher would say, "....and fools never differ. That's a hundred lines of Latin each of your will translate for the farmers' and traders' sons not gifted with the talents you waste so frivolously."* I don't think this from Shimano is foolish, but whether it will be a commercial success is another pig's ear, to channel Gene.

Way I see it, Shimano is returning to a path it has itself trod well. See
http://coolmainpress.com/BICYCLINGsmover.html
for a bike in which a Shimano grupo electronically controlled the gearbox, the bike's suspension and the lamps. Adding the brakes is not a conceptually huge step up from electronically controlled suspension sensitive to load, speed, gear and incline. and maybe other factors I don't now remember without rereading reams of Japanese. Commercially that grupo was probably a success (parts of it were upmarket OEM in Germany and The Netherlands and even on a housewives' Trek called the Frog or the Lime or something like that -- anyhow, the one I saw was green) but it didn't live up to its extravagant expectations, until Shimano made a tiny, offensively cut-down version of it, the miserable Di2 in the Dura Ace, its top grupo. I never understood why the dropbar brigade allowed themselves to be fobbed off with this insult when a fully automatic derailleur system would have been just a small step up from the Smover system for Shimano. This entire conception goes back to before 1996, the year I first noticed the Shimano automatic hub gearbox, which was then 3-speed.**

Andre Jute
Very little under the sun that is perfectly new.

* "Aw, come on sir, we charge a bob [shilling, those days perhaps 40 cents] and three cigarettes for ten lines!" When I came to have a little influence, I had the job of writing the textbook for the entire country given to him, and he retired a much-revered millionaire.

** If the precise date is important, get Slow Johnny to look it up. 1996 is merely the year I first considered a hub gearbox.