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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
Greg and Al Gore invented the internet too, you forgot that.
(and don't forget blood boosting with Eddie) What is the status of Greg's health? Might he be the next with a 'Thevenet' admission? -- -------------------------- Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
"never_doped" wrote in message ... Greg and Al Gore invented the internet too, you forgot that. (and don't forget blood boosting with Eddie) What is the status of Greg's health? Might he be the next with a 'Thevenet' admission? Why? Everyone knew what was going on with Thevenet (and most of the Peugeots for that matter), so his coming clean was hardly a surprise. I haven't heard any substantive rumours about Lemond, and his collapse was hardly the same sort as Thevenet's... Trolling? TC |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
"never_doped" wrote in message ... Greg and Al Gore invented the internet too, you forgot that. (and don't forget blood boosting with Eddie) What is the status of Greg's health? Might he be the next with a 'Thevenet' admission? Dumbass - believe it or not, there are aspects of bike racing that don't have anything to do with drugs. (like the post that you replied to) |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
Kurgan Gringion wrote:
"never_doped" wrote in message news:3f33d80d_1@- t.au... Greg and Al Gore invented the internet too, you forgot that. (and don't forget blood boosting with Eddie) What is the status of Greg's health? Might he be the next with a 'Thevenet' admission? Dumbass - believe it or not, there are aspects of bike racing that don't have anything to do with drugs. (like the post that you replied to) Never_Doped is a troll of the highest caliber. Yes, more of a troll then the Helmet Trolls. The man is bitter because he is a second rate bike rider who refused to dope. I applaud him for that. He now spends his days gathering evidence about doping and posting it here (and other bike message boards) as he tries to change a sport. When he posts about doping I am a kind enough man to entertain him and respond. As you say Kurgan he has now become a Dumbass (maybe your best use of the term ever) who wants to hijack every thread so that he can convince himself that he was a great bike rider. -- -------------------------- Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
"Bret Wade" wrote in message link.net... Nev Shea wrote: "Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in t: Check this out: http://www.lemondfitness.com/meetgreg.htm Greg LeMond - Legacy Of Racing Innovation 1980 Superlight frame 1981 Elevated seat position 1984 Cycling computer, aero bike, aero helmet 1985 Oakley sports shield sunglasses, heart rate monitor 1986 Clipless pedals, carbon frames, Giro helmets 1987 Carbon fork 1989 Floating pedals, aero handlebars 1991 Road racing suspension fork, titanium frame 1992 Electronic shifting, down-loadable bike computer He forgot to mention Virtual TdF wins. And I wonder if he has rewritten his book so that it has him telling Cyril Guimard about elevating the seat instead of the other way around. NS Greg was an early adopter of these innovations but not an innovator. I wonder if it occurred to them to put EPO on this list too. "Nah, let's not talk about that one". Bret It was the iron injection toward the end of the 1989 Giro that got him on the road to Tour winning form. You believe that, don't you? Your point is well taken. Lemond did seek out innovations and use them at a time when it was much frowned upon in a very traditionalist sport. I can still hear Lou Maltese telling us one hot Sunday morning before a road race at Old Westbury, to forget about a waterbottle and just put a couple of pebbles in our mouths to stimulate saliva flow. For years, TdF racers were significantly dehydrated due to failure to ingest enough fluids. Times change and Lemond did much to change them in pro cycling--especially increased salaries. |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
"B. Lafferty" wrote in message link.net... Check this out: http://www.lemondfitness.com/meetgreg.htm Greg LeMond - Legacy Of Racing Innovation 1980 Superlight frame 1981 Elevated seat position 1984 Cycling computer, aero bike, aero helmet 1985 Oakley sports shield sunglasses, heart rate monitor 1986 Clipless pedals, carbon frames, Giro helmets 1987 Carbon fork 1989 Floating pedals, aero handlebars 1991 Road racing suspension fork, titanium frame 1992 Electronic shifting, down-loadable bike computer It was the iron injection toward the end of the 1989 Giro that got him on the road to Tour winning form. You believe that, don't you? Your point is well taken. Lemond did seek out innovations and use them at a time when it was much frowned upon in a very traditionalist sport. I can still hear Lou Maltese telling us one hot Sunday morning before a road race at Old Westbury, to forget about a waterbottle and just put a couple of pebbles in our mouths to stimulate saliva flow. For years, TdF racers were significantly dehydrated due to failure to ingest enough fluids. Times change and Lemond did much to change them in pro cycling--especially increased salaries. Lemond was an innovator, I'll agree with that, but the list on that website is exaggeration of the highest order. Sort of like the virtual 4 TdF victories. The man seems incapable of resting on his laurels gracefully. |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message t... "B. Lafferty" wrote in message link.net... Check this out: http://www.lemondfitness.com/meetgreg.htm Greg LeMond - Legacy Of Racing Innovation 1980 Superlight frame 1981 Elevated seat position 1984 Cycling computer, aero bike, aero helmet 1985 Oakley sports shield sunglasses, heart rate monitor 1986 Clipless pedals, carbon frames, Giro helmets 1987 Carbon fork 1989 Floating pedals, aero handlebars 1991 Road racing suspension fork, titanium frame 1992 Electronic shifting, down-loadable bike computer It was the iron injection toward the end of the 1989 Giro that got him on the road to Tour winning form. You believe that, don't you? Your point is well taken. Lemond did seek out innovations and use them at a time when it was much frowned upon in a very traditionalist sport. I can still hear Lou Maltese telling us one hot Sunday morning before a road race at Old Westbury, to forget about a waterbottle and just put a couple of pebbles in our mouths to stimulate saliva flow. For years, TdF racers were significantly dehydrated due to failure to ingest enough fluids. Times change and Lemond did much to change them in pro cycling--especially increased salaries. Lemond was an innovator, I'll agree with that, but the list on that website is exaggeration of the highest order. Sort of like the virtual 4 TdF victories. The man seems incapable of resting on his laurels gracefully. In the advertising industry it's called "puffing." There is a fine line where it becomes false advertising. There is a lot of puff on Lemond's site. As for virtual tour winners, I think Jan should be creditied with 1998. If Pantani ever comes clean, lets see it Leblanc has the balls to strip Pantani of his title, a la Garin. |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
Nev Shea wrote in message ink.net...
"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in t: Check this out: http://www.lemondfitness.com/meetgreg.htm Greg LeMond - Legacy Of Racing Innovation 1980 Superlight frame depends on you define superlight. Bernard Hinault used a 753 frame & Luciene Van Impe used a composite frame. 1981 Elevated seat position Invented by Cyrille Guimard 1984 Cycling computer, aero bike, aero helmet First used by Bernard Hinault, invented by Gitane 1985 Oakley sports shield sunglasses, heart rate monitor First used by Francesco Moser?. Pioneeered by Conconni 1986 Clipless pedals, carbon frames, Giro helmets Invented by Cinelli, perfected Look pedal suugested by Bernard Hinault 1987 Carbon fork 1989 Floating pedals, aero handlebars 1991 Road racing suspension fork, titanium frame Titanium Frame before Lemond Teledyne Titan or before Lemond. 1992 Electronic shifting, down-loadable bike computer First introduced by Mavic ZAP shifting What strange is why Lemond failed to mention the use Tri bar extensions. This the only one he first pioneered. He forgot to mention Virtual TdF wins. And I wonder if he has rewritten his book so that it has him telling Cyril Guimard about elevating the seat instead of the other way around. NS |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message t... Lemond was an innovator, I'll agree with that, but the list on that website is exaggeration of the highest order. Sort of like the virtual 4 TdF victories. The man seems incapable of resting on his laurels gracefully. Only four? In an interview with a dutch newspaper he told he considered himself also as the virtual winner of the Tour's of 1997 and 1998. So that makes six. Benjo Maso |
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Greg LeMond - Inventor Extraordinaire
"B. Lafferty" wrote in message link.net... In the advertising industry it's called "puffing." There is a fine line where it becomes false advertising. There is a lot of puff on Lemond's site. I'd say some of those items cross the line, namely: superlightweight frame elevated seat position aero bike floating pedals titanium frame Those are just the ones I'm sure about. Some of the others may be pure hyperbole also. With all that's on his list you'd think he was the second coming of Tulio Campagnolo. |
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