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Old February 29th 08, 11:03 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Squashme wrote:
On 29 Feb, 17:48, JNugent wrote:
spindrift wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...re/7270751.stm
Gratuitous insertion of helmet comment obligatory.
I never, ever understand how driving bans run concurrent with a
custodial sentence- YOU CAN'T DRIVE IN PRISON!!!
A motorist who was texting on her mobile phone ...
... has been sentenced to four years in prison. ...


The 25-year-old from Hythe, Hampshire, was banned from driving for
five years.


Relax. Don't burst a blood vessel.

She'll be out of prison before the driving ban is up and so will have to
serve some of it. Prisoners rarely serve the whole sentence. Driving
bans are always served in full.


"She'll be out of prison before the driving ban is up and so will have
to serve some of it."

"Driving bans are always served in full."

Ummmm. Serve some of it, or all of it?


All of it. You can rest assured that she will not be driving whilst
locked up.
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Old February 29th 08, 11:06 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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calum wrote:

"JNugent" wrote in message


Driving bans are always served in full.


Wrong.


You can ask the court to reduce the period of your disqualification after
serving....


Oh, OK.... if you must...

Driving bans are always served in full as directed by the courts.

Happy?
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Old March 1st 08, 10:14 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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"Sir Jeremy" wrote

The helmet point is debatable, but
he certainly would be alive today if he hadn't ridden through the red
light


He just made a judgement call that turned bad on himself. If his death
serves a purpose it is that bad driving can cause harm to others..




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Old March 2nd 08, 08:58 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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DavidR wrote:

"Sir Jeremy" wrote

The helmet point is debatable, but
he certainly would be alive today if he hadn't ridden through the red
light


He just made a judgement call that turned bad on himself. If his death
serves a purpose it is that bad driving can cause harm to others..


That is a one-sided view: his death could be used to suggest also that
bad cycling can harm bad cyclists.

Intelligent readers will note the use of the conditional in the previous
sentence. I am /not/ suggesting that the late cyclist was a bad one as I
haven't seen enough of the evidence to explain why he is claimed to have
run a red light.

Cheers,
Luke


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Old March 3rd 08, 09:21 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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"JNugent" wrote in message
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Driving bans are always served in full as directed by the courts.

Happy?


Please don't take it personally but I disagree with that too; any person who
has driven while disqualified has not served his driving ban "in full as
directed by the courts".

Calum



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Old March 14th 08, 07:11 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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calum wrote:

"JNugent" wrote:


Driving bans are always served in full as directed by the courts.
Happy?


Please don't take it personally but I disagree with that too; any person who
has driven while disqualified has not served his driving ban "in full as
directed by the courts".


No, that's not right. Being banned from driving simply means that one is
not licensed to drive on the highway (for a time) and is liable to
punishment simply for doing so. Someone like me (or, I suspect, you) who
has not been banned from driving is at no such risk.

Driving on a ban is not some sort of get out of jail free card and
doesn't mean that the ban has been lifted. The driver is still banned
and still very much at risk of retribution*. You might as well say
(actually, with more justification) that a prisoner released for the day
to attend his mother's funeral is not a prisoner.


[* Ever wondered how, given that being stopped by the police is such a
rarity, such a large proportion of banned drivers who do drive are caught?]








[Sorry - I missed this when first posted.]
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Old March 17th 08, 11:06 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Mar 14, 6:11*pm, JNugent wrote:


No, that's not right.


Are you saying that a person who drives while disqualified *is*
"serving his ban in full as directed by the courts."

Calum
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Old March 17th 08, 11:47 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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"calum" wrote in message
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On Mar 14, 6:11 pm, JNugent wrote:


No, that's not right.


Are you saying that a person who drives while disqualified *is*
"serving his ban in full as directed by the courts."

Calum

This is getting a bit semantic, but as being banned is essentially a passive
thing you don't really _serve_ it in the same way as you serve a sentence -
you're not required to _do_ anything or _be_ anywhere, merely not to drive.
The offence you commit if you drive while banned is driving while banned,
not 'breaking the ban'.So you can't serve a ban but you can be in breach of
it.


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Old March 17th 08, 05:45 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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calum wrote:

On Mar 14, 6:11 pm, JNugent wrote:


No, that's not right.


Are you saying that a person who drives while disqualified *is*
"serving his ban in full as directed by the courts."


Do you want to provide a little context?
 




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