Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?

For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving
canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk,
now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced?
Orange flavor would be great but doesn't matter much, as long as it's
not any funky or excessively sweet flavor. No artificial sweeteners.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 9/24/2017 10:02 AM, Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving
canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk,
now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced?
Orange flavor would be great but doesn't matter much, as long as it's
not any funky or excessively sweet flavor. No artificial sweeteners.

Buy 25kg of coconut water powder for $395. Enough for 1250 bicycle water
bottle fills, at 20 grams per bottle. About 32 cents per bottle.

On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 10:02:35 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced?

I use diluted orange juice.

Usually one tablespoon of juice per water bottle.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

On 2017-09-26 19:07, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 10:02:35 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced?

I use diluted orange juice.

Usually one tablespoon of juice per water bottle.


It is a good source of potassium but difficult to store. Rots easy.

http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/much...uice-6666.html

The powder seems to have no potassium left, no idea what happens to it
in the process:

https://www.amazon.com/Augason-Farms.../dp/B00LBGNW9I

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 8:07:20 PM UTC-7, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 10:02:35 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced?

I use diluted orange juice.

Usually one tablespoon of juice per water bottle.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

Hello Joy, there is more to it than simply replacing electrolytes. I almost had heat prostration on the 3rd by simply drinking Red Bull. It provided sufficient electrolytes but insufficient calories to burn while riding.

When undergoing extreme exercise your digestive processes are impaired and you should take in simple sugars and electrolytes.

I knew this but the length of the ride sort of developed as I was riding. Normally a 72 mile ride wouldn't have nearly killed me but the day started overcast and cool and then after I was beyond the point of no return it got up over 90 with no shade. And the neighborhoods I was riding through were not the sorts where you could leave your bike to go into a store. The one place I did it a guy came directly over to my bike until he saw me on the other side of the glass door and having 8" on him.

On 2017-09-27 08:28, wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 8:07:20 PM UTC-7, Joy Beeson
wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 10:02:35 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably
priced?

I use diluted orange juice.

Usually one tablespoon of juice per water bottle.

-- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

Hello Joy, there is more to it than simply replacing electrolytes. I
almost had heat prostration on the 3rd by simply drinking Red Bull.
It provided sufficient electrolytes but insufficient calories to burn
while riding.

When undergoing extreme exercise your digestive processes are
impaired and you should take in simple sugars and electrolytes.

I knew this but the length of the ride sort of developed as I was
riding. Normally a 72 mile ride wouldn't have nearly killed me but
the day started overcast and cool and then after I was beyond the
point of no return it got up over 90 with no shade.


100F+ and no shade is normal here in summer. Scientists say that beer
flushed out glucose and supposedly makes things worse but I can't
confirm that. After a nice pint of Double-IPA, Belgian Tripel or Stout I
feel like having more climb energy than before. Though that burns off
pretty quickly.


... And the
neighborhoods I was riding through were not the sorts where you could
leave your bike to go into a store. The one place I did it a guy came
directly over to my bike until he saw me on the other side of the
glass door and having 8" on him.


That is why I do not patronize stores that do not let me take my bike
inside.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-27 08:28, wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 8:07:20 PM UTC-7, Joy Beeson
wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 10:02:35 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably
priced?

I use diluted orange juice.

Usually one tablespoon of juice per water bottle.

-- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

Hello Joy, there is more to it than simply replacing electrolytes. I
almost had heat prostration on the 3rd by simply drinking Red Bull.
It provided sufficient electrolytes but insufficient calories to burn
while riding.

When undergoing extreme exercise your digestive processes are
impaired and you should take in simple sugars and electrolytes.

I knew this but the length of the ride sort of developed as I was
riding. Normally a 72 mile ride wouldn't have nearly killed me but
the day started overcast and cool and then after I was beyond the
point of no return it got up over 90 with no shade.


100F+ and no shade is normal here in summer. Scientists say that beer
flushed out glucose and supposedly makes things worse but I can't
confirm that. After a nice pint of Double-IPA, Belgian Tripel or Stout I
feel like having more climb energy than before. Though that burns off
pretty quickly.


... And the
neighborhoods I was riding through were not the sorts where you could
leave your bike to go into a store. The one place I did it a guy came
directly over to my bike until he saw me on the other side of the
glass door and having 8" on him.


That is why I do not patronize stores that do not let me take my bike
inside.

When I return from a hard ride and have a Belgian Ale I recover quite rapidly.

In the bay area you get what you get.

On 2017-09-27 13:43, wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-27 08:28, wrote:


[...]

... And the
neighborhoods I was riding through were not the sorts where you could
leave your bike to go into a store. The one place I did it a guy came
directly over to my bike until he saw me on the other side of the
glass door and having 8" on him.


That is why I do not patronize stores that do not let me take my bike
inside.

When I return from a hard ride and have a Belgian Ale I recover quite rapidly.

In the bay area you get what you get.


Move to a nicer area. During yesterday's ride I parked my MTB here and
"re-hydrated":

https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...om?format=750w

Also discovered a new route into the valley away from fast motor
vehuicle traffic but that one requires MTB use.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

outdoors supply is sold out for the season ...a quality benchmark given the snake oil ambience

On 2017-09-24 10:02, Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving
canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk,
now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced?
Orange flavor would be great but doesn't matter much, as long as it's
not any funky or excessively sweet flavor. No artificial sweeteners.


Some feedback:

I bought "Electro Mix" from Emergen-C (Alacer Corp). About $10 for 30
pouches but those are for 1 liter each so a pouch makes two 500ml
bottles. Therefore, much cheaper than Ultima ever was.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HWRY5S?th=1

It is also higher in potassium which is good for a hard ride. Taste is
another matter ... blech ... totally bland, there is none. So my wife
adds in a spritz of lemon juice. Though I don't mind the no-taste
version because I just gulp it down to avoid cramps. It works.

Of course, on many rides I have another much more tasty potassium source
in addition: Beer :-)

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/