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Sailboats
On Feb 7, 8:10*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:00:47 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 6, 8:11*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:31:44 -0800 (PST), " wrote: It seems counter intuitive to have people flying to an environmental conference. Maybe you could push for a more distributed conference, with local groups getting together to teleconference with other groups around the world. It would preserve local face-to-face interaction that reinforces the community aspect, but allow a global audience for lectures (as well as more flexible timing via recorded playback). VoIP (video and/or voice) technology could enable discussions of large size. I believe Focus The Nation got together a webcast on the 31st to many groups across the nation. Shouldn't be too hard do it several times a day to a smaller audience. If it's all about making sacrifices to preserve our life support systems, then why not lead by example? I have always made that suggestion, of course. As soon as the technology is available & affordable, and conference organizers want to do it, it will happen. Video would present privacy problems. -- There are no privacy problem using a SAILBOAT, DUH! Yes, there are. You need a public mooring. I guess you don't own a sailboat. By the way, most sailboats have motors. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I was reading some info on Mike Vanderman, that lying *******, the other day. It turns out he has always been a hypocrit and coward, dodging issues and questions with nothing but lies and bad math. I re- read his old posts...which bored me with repetious babble...and it all is the same. There is nothing at all factual in any of his banter. I respect most "real" scientist and naturalist and ecologist, being one of the above myself, but I really am amazed that anyone would invite such a huge fraud to speak at any convention. Probably all for profit environmental groups only as I have witnessed. Of course his response will be.... Lies, where's the facts...LIAR...DUH.... What intelligent responses he has too...IDIOT...etc. See, that's the beauty of most of us on here. I don't pretend to be something I am not. I will state it straight that Mikey is a fraud and an ASSHOLE...and a dick, etc. But he is a pretender...a sheep, the great follower. No doubt he profits as has been proven of his banter. What a fake. |
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Sailboats
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 01:01:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Feb 7, 8:10*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:00:47 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 6, 8:11*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:31:44 -0800 (PST), " wrote: It seems counter intuitive to have people flying to an environmental conference. Maybe you could push for a more distributed conference, with local groups getting together to teleconference with other groups around the world. It would preserve local face-to-face interaction that reinforces the community aspect, but allow a global audience for lectures (as well as more flexible timing via recorded playback). VoIP (video and/or voice) technology could enable discussions of large size. I believe Focus The Nation got together a webcast on the 31st to many groups across the nation. Shouldn't be too hard do it several times a day to a smaller audience. If it's all about making sacrifices to preserve our life support systems, then why not lead by example? I have always made that suggestion, of course. As soon as the technology is available & affordable, and conference organizers want to do it, it will happen. Video would present privacy problems. -- There are no privacy problem using a SAILBOAT, DUH! Yes, there are. You need a public mooring. I guess you don't own a sailboat. By the way, most sailboats have motors. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I was reading some info on Mike Vanderman, that lying *******, the other day. It turns out he has always been a hypocrit and coward, dodging issues and questions with nothing but lies and bad math. I re- read his old posts...which bored me with repetious babble...and it all is the same. There is nothing at all factual in any of his banter. I respect most "real" scientist and naturalist and ecologist, being one of the above myself, but I really am amazed that anyone would invite such a huge fraud to speak at any convention. Probably all for profit environmental groups only as I have witnessed. Of course his response will be.... Lies, where's the facts...LIAR...DUH.... What intelligent responses he has too...IDIOT...etc. See, that's the beauty of most of us on here. I don't pretend to be something I am not. I will state it straight that Mikey is a fraud and an ASSHOLE...and a dick, etc. But he is a pretender...a sheep, the great follower. No doubt he profits as has been proven of his banter. What a fake. Your vain attempt to prevent the TRUTH about mountain biking from being told is duly noted. Obviously, the reason I'm continually invited to speak is that, UNLIKE YOU, I tell the truth. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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On Feb 8, 9:59*am, " wrote:
On Feb 7, 8:10*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:00:47 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 6, 8:11*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:31:44 -0800 (PST), " wrote: It seems counter intuitive to have people flying to an environmental conference. Maybe you could push for a more distributed conference, with local groups getting together to teleconference with other groups around the world. It would preserve local face-to-face interaction that reinforces the community aspect, but allow a global audience for lectures (as well as more flexible timing via recorded playback). VoIP (video and/or voice) technology could enable discussions of large size. I believe Focus The Nation got together a webcast on the 31st to many groups across the nation. Shouldn't be too hard do it several times a day to a smaller audience. If it's all about making sacrifices to preserve our life support systems, then why not lead by example? I have always made that suggestion, of course. As soon as the technology is available & affordable, and conference organizers want to do it, it will happen. Video would present privacy problems. -- There are no privacy problem using a SAILBOAT, DUH! Yes, there are. You need a public mooring. I guess you don't own a sailboat. By the way, most sailboats have motors. What's wrong with a private mooring? *Where my family keeps the boats, moored on private moorings we own holding docks we own, there are no privacy issues. Also, "most" sailboats do not have motors. *Many do, but "most" do not. I know, I know, don't feed the trolls - but I know boats and this one was too stupid to let pass.- Hide quoted text - It seems Mikey does own a boat because his wife said he had a little dinghy. |
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Michael J. Vandeman - psuedoscience and mythology
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You are fooling NO ONE. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande And therein lies your deceit. I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, or creating any measurable negative effect on the environment whatsoever. This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons incomprehensible to a sane mind. A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling. Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for a time. What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!! |
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Michael J. Vandeman - psuedoscience and mythology
On Feb 11, 12:22 am, "JP" wrote:
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You are fooling NO ONE. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande And therein lies your deceit. I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, or creating any measurable negative effect on the environment whatsoever. This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons incomprehensible to a sane mind. A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling. Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for a time. What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!! On a stormy day such as we're having here, Mikey provides a modicum of entertainment. There's never anything much to be gained by responding to his blatherings. It's instructive to see how widespread is the disdain for for his rabid misanthropy. PMH |
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Michael J. Vandeman - psuedoscience and mythology
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:22:19 GMT, "JP" wrote:
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message .. . Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You are fooling NO ONE. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande And therein lies your deceit. I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, or creating any measurable negative effect on the environment whatsoever. This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons incomprehensible to a sane mind. A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling. Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for a time. What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!! Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You are fooling NO ONE. Repeating lies doesn't make them true, no matter how many times you do it, in spite of what Hitler said. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Michael J. Vandeman - psuedoscience and mythology
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:55:45 -0800 (PST), pmh
wrote: On Feb 11, 12:22 am, "JP" wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You are fooling NO ONE. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande And therein lies your deceit. I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, or creating any measurable negative effect on the environment whatsoever. This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons incomprehensible to a sane mind. A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling. Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for a time. What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!! On a stormy day such as we're having here, Mikey provides a modicum of entertainment. There's never anything much to be gained by responding to his blatherings. It's instructive to see how widespread is the disdain for for his rabid misanthropy. .... among mountain bikers, who can't stand having anyone tell the truth about their selfish, destructive sport. PMH -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Michael J. Vandeman - psuedoscience and mythology
On Feb 11, 8:16*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:55:45 -0800 (PST), pmh wrote: On Feb 11, 12:22 am, "JP" wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message . .. Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You are fooling NO ONE. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande And therein lies your deceit. I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, *or creating any measurable negative effect on the environment whatsoever. This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons incomprehensible to a sane mind. A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling. Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for a time. What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!! On a stormy day such as we're having here, Mikey provides a modicum of entertainment. There's never *anything much to be gained by responding to his blatherings. It's instructive to see how widespread is the disdain for for his rabid misanthropy. ... among mountain bikers, who can't stand having anyone tell the truth about their selfish, destructive sport. Mike Vandeman+Commercial Aviation=Raping The Upper Atmosphere |
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Michael J. Vandeman - psuedoscience and mythology
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:38:41 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
wrote: On Feb 11, 8:16*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:55:45 -0800 (PST), pmh wrote: On Feb 11, 12:22 am, "JP" wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message . .. Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You are fooling NO ONE. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande And therein lies your deceit. I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, *or creating any measurable negative effect on the environment whatsoever. This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons incomprehensible to a sane mind. A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling. Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for a time. What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!! On a stormy day such as we're having here, Mikey provides a modicum of entertainment. There's never *anything much to be gained by responding to his blatherings. It's instructive to see how widespread is the disdain for for his rabid misanthropy. ... among mountain bikers, who can't stand having anyone tell the truth about their selfish, destructive sport. Mike Vandeman+Commercial Aviation Prove it, liar. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Michael J. Vandeman - psuedoscience and mythology
On Feb 12, 8:27*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:38:41 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 11, 8:16*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:55:45 -0800 (PST), pmh wrote: On Feb 11, 12:22 am, "JP" wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message . .. Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You are fooling NO ONE. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande And therein lies your deceit. I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, *or creating any measurable negative effect on the environment whatsoever. This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons incomprehensible to a sane mind. A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling. Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for a time. What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!! On a stormy day such as we're having here, Mikey provides a modicum of entertainment. There's never *anything much to be gained by responding to his blatherings. It's instructive to see how widespread is the disdain for for his rabid misanthropy. ... among mountain bikers, who can't stand having anyone tell the truth about their selfish, destructive sport. Mike Vandeman+Commercial Aviation=Raping The Upper Atmosphere Prove it, liar. If your lazy ass is seated on the plane, then you're part of the problem, DUH! |
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