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I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishing uswith it
On Feb 3, 4:13*am, delboy wrote:
On 3 Feb, 04:01, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote: Hi IQ is not required for high office. It may be a hindrance. She (Sarah Palin) only needs to lead the sheep... I think George W. Bush has already proved that point! DC Yep, this lady has all the qualities of a good shepherd. Now all she needs is a sheep dog... and some wolves to scare them. |
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I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishing uswith it
On Feb 3, 9:45 am, Sebastian wrote:
Of course the big companies will do this whether the doubt is well- founded or not. So the mere act of them doing it actually tells us very little about what is really happening. But one thing has to be considered: We know for a fact that global warming has been happening. The temperatures have gone up in a relatively rapid fashion. What we do not know for a fact is that the cause of it is human activity. There are many natural processes affecting the global temperatures. Atmosphere is big, coupled with many other factors (like oceans and land). This makes it very complicated to understand. So we do not even know the governing equation(s) of the atmospheric changes let alone their solutions. Numerical models inevitably do not take certain factors into account (and in some cases important ones, like water vapour - see sayhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/29/water-vapour-climat...). These problems are significant and so currently we do not actually know for a fact what is going on. Once you "understand" it (if you ever can something so complex) it'll be too late. It's simpler to allow people like me to ride a bike as means of prevention, than to allow the SUVs to keep spewing CO2. OK, let's apply some science to it... (I quote) How much carbon dioxide does a typical SUV release into the atmosphere, and how many trees does it take to absorb all that CO2? The answer is anybody's guess, but here's my take on it: One gallon of gasoline weighs about 8 lbs. Of that, about 7 lbs. is carbon (the rest is hydrogen). If a typical SUV gets 15 mpg on the highway and is driven 15,000 miles a year, it will burn 1,000 gallons of gas. That puts about 7,000 lbs. of carbon into the atmosphere (combined with oxygen as CO2). A mature tree 40 to 50 feet high weighs around 10,000 lbs. Of that, at least 7,000 lbs. is organic carbon compounds (the exact amount will vary depending on the species and the density of the wood). To reach this size, most trees need 30 to 40 years of growing time. This too will vary depending on the species of tree, its geographical location, soil conditions and weather. Trees in hot, wet tropical climates grow a lot faster than trees in northern climates. Assuming these estimates are reasonably accurate, one mature tree contains about as much carbon as the 1,000 gallons of gasoline burned by a typical SUV in a year. But remember it takes 30 to 40 years for the tree to absorb all that carbon from the atmosphere. Photosynthesis takes time. It doesn't happen overnight. In fact, leaves use sunlight and water during the daytime only to convert CO2 from the atmosphere into tree sap (glucose) that the tree then uses to grow and build more wood fiber. The tree's average carbon uptake, therefore, may only be about 200 lbs. of carbon a year. To offset the carbon released by driving a SUV 15,000 miles a year, therefore, it takes at least 35 medium-sized healthy trees to convert CO2 into wood. http://www.aa1car.com/library/2001/cm50120.htm |
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I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishing us with it
delboy wrote:
On 3 Feb, 04:01, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in- the-jungle wrote: Hi IQ is not required for high office. It may be a hindrance. She (Sarah Palin) only needs to lead the sheep... I think George W. Bush has already proved that point! http://vdare.com/sailer/kerry_iq_lower.htm |
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I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it
Bill Sornson wrote:
delboy wrote: On 3 Feb, 04:01, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in- the-jungle wrote: Hi IQ is not required for high office. It may be a hindrance. She (Sarah Palin) only needs to lead the sheep... I think George W. Bush has already proved that point! http://vdare.com/sailer/kerry_iq_lower.htm Goes to show what a decade or so of coke and booze will do. By the time he was president he must have killed off most of his brain. There's little evidence that he gave anything he did much thought. Pretty much all seat of the pants and kicking it down the road when the ideology failed. Jeff |
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I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishing us with it
jeff wrote:
Bill Sornson wrote: delboy wrote: On 3 Feb, 04:01, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in- the-jungle wrote: Hi IQ is not required for high office. It may be a hindrance. She (Sarah Palin) only needs to lead the sheep... I think George W. Bush has already proved that point! http://vdare.com/sailer/kerry_iq_lower.htm Goes to show what a decade or so of coke and booze will do. By the time he was president he must have killed off most of his brain. There's little evidence that he gave anything he did much thought. Pretty much all seat of the pants and kicking it down the road when the ideology failed. Jeff Yeah, and Gore flunked out of divinity school and ripped off the country to the tune of hundreds of millions on the natch. Obama smoked dope and did coke (admitted). Where are HIS college records? |
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I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it
Bill Sornson wrote:
jeff wrote: Bill Sornson wrote: delboy wrote: On 3 Feb, 04:01, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in- the-jungle wrote: Hi IQ is not required for high office. It may be a hindrance. She (Sarah Palin) only needs to lead the sheep... I think George W. Bush has already proved that point! http://vdare.com/sailer/kerry_iq_lower.htm Goes to show what a decade or so of coke and booze will do. By the time he was president he must have killed off most of his brain. There's little evidence that he gave anything he did much thought. Pretty much all seat of the pants and kicking it down the road when the ideology failed. Jeff Yeah, and Gore flunked out of divinity school and ripped off the country to the tune of hundreds of millions on the natch. Obama smoked dope and did coke (admitted). Where are HIS college records? None of those ran the country straight into the ditch while they were being ideologues. 8 years of essentially zero job growth. The stock market about where it was when he took office. The worst terrorist incident on his watch and then he lets the master mind get away while he is avenging Daddies honor in Iraq. Not one thing improved on his watch if you don't count the rich getting richer. Mind you, he took the country to two wars off budget and pushed through that prescription drug benefit without the least thought to how to pay for it. And he left the financial system in shambles, most branches of the government in disfunction and the country in the worst recession since the 30's. Or did you forget all that? You think it is just a coincidence it all happened on his watch? What you got besides fear, hatred and innuendo? Jeff |
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I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishing us with it
jeff wrote:
Bill Sornson wrote: jeff wrote: Bill Sornson wrote: delboy wrote: On 3 Feb, 04:01, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in- the-jungle wrote: Hi IQ is not required for high office. It may be a hindrance. She (Sarah Palin) only needs to lead the sheep... I think George W. Bush has already proved that point! http://vdare.com/sailer/kerry_iq_lower.htm Goes to show what a decade or so of coke and booze will do. By the time he was president he must have killed off most of his brain. There's little evidence that he gave anything he did much thought. Pretty much all seat of the pants and kicking it down the road when the ideology failed. Jeff Yeah, and Gore flunked out of divinity school and ripped off the country to the tune of hundreds of millions on the natch. Obama smoked dope and did coke (admitted). Where are HIS college records? None of those ran the country straight into the ditch while they were being ideologues. 8 years of essentially zero job growth. The stock market about where it was when he took office. The worst terrorist incident on his watch and then he lets the master mind get away while he is avenging Daddies honor in Iraq. Not one thing improved on his watch if you don't count the rich getting richer. Mind you, he took the country to two wars off budget and pushed through that prescription drug benefit without the least thought to how to pay for it. And he left the financial system in shambles, most branches of the government in disfunction and the country in the worst recession since the 30's. Or did you forget all that? You think it is just a coincidence it all happened on his watch? What you got besides fear, hatred and innuendo? Jeff Dude, you're delusional. Unemployment was under 5% (technically "full employment") for record number of quarters under Bush. It's no coincidence that the economy started going to hell when the Dems took control of Congress in the 2006 elections. (And yes, the most ideological president in history -- then Senator Barrack H. Obama -- voted for all the spending bills and complained that they weren't enough.) Bush's biggest mistake was not vetoing a ton of ****. (He did try 18 separate and distinct times to reform Fanny and Freddie; see "Burning Down the House" unless Obama has had it removed from the internet like he just did a Reuters article on new "back door taxes".) Out, BS |
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I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishing uswith it
On Feb 3, 11:30*pm, "Bill Sornson" wrote:
jeff wrote: Bill Sornson wrote: jeff wrote: Bill Sornson wrote: delboy wrote: On 3 Feb, 04:01, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in- the-jungle wrote: Hi IQ is not required for high office. It may be a hindrance. She (Sarah Palin) only needs to lead the sheep... I think George W. Bush has already proved that point! http://vdare.com/sailer/kerry_iq_lower.htm * Goes to show what a decade or so of coke and booze will do. By the time he was president he must have killed off most of his brain. There's little evidence that he gave anything he did much thought. * Pretty much all seat of the pants and kicking it down the road when the ideology failed. * Jeff Yeah, and Gore flunked out of divinity school and ripped off the country to the tune of hundreds of millions on the natch. *Obama smoked dope and did coke (admitted). *Where are HIS college records? * None of those ran the country straight into the ditch while they were being ideologues. * 8 years of essentially zero job growth. The stock market about where it was when he took office. The worst terrorist incident on his watch and then he lets the master mind get away while he is avenging Daddies honor in Iraq. * Not one thing improved on his watch if you don't count the rich getting richer. Mind you, he took the country to two wars off budget and pushed through that prescription drug benefit without the least thought to how to pay for it. * And he left the financial system in shambles, most branches of the government in disfunction and the country in the worst recession since the 30's. *Or did you forget all that? You think it is just a coincidence it all happened on his watch? * What you got besides fear, hatred and innuendo? * Jeff Dude, you're delusional. *Unemployment was under 5% (technically "full employment") for record number of quarters under Bush. *It's no coincidence that the economy started going to hell when the Dems took control of Congress in the 2006 elections. *(And yes, the most ideological president in history -- then Senator Barrack H. Obama -- voted for all the spending bills and complained that they weren't enough.) *Bush's biggest mistake was not vetoing a ton of ****. *(He did try 18 separate and distinct times to reform Fanny and Freddie; see "Burning Down the House" unless Obama has had it removed from the internet like he just did a Reuters article on new "back door taxes".) Out, BS- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I can live with any president that has 3 lovers, smokes pot, and has an ugly family, but not with one that ignores the issues, particularly the role of cycling in fighting climate change. Let me know when you find one like that. |
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I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it
Bill Sornson wrote:
Dude, you're delusional. Unemployment was under 5% (technically "full employment") for record number of quarters under Bush. It's no coincidence that the economy started going to hell when the Dems took control of Congress in the 2006 elections. (And yes, the most ideological president in history -- then Senator Barrack H. Obama -- voted for all the spending bills and complained that they weren't enough.) Bush's biggest mistake was not vetoing a ton of ****. (He did try 18 separate and distinct times to reform Fanny and Freddie; see "Burning Down the House" unless Obama has had it removed from the internet like he just did a Reuters article on new "back door taxes".) Out, BS Amazing - biggest case of denial I've seen yet. You may want to actually get some facts, but reality is obviously not something to which you will apparently ever admit. Poor GW - nothing was his fault (none of his numerous failings were ever his fault - through he's whole life he's just been a victim of circumstances). Meanwhile, it'll be many years before the US recovers from the disastrous results of the GW years / decisions. Hint - it's no coincidence that the US began falling apart almost to the day he was appointed president as business & investors ran to the sidelines for the safety of CDs & bonds while minimizing / reducing expansion plans. Meanwhile, eight years later the country saw a loss in employment, lose in real wages, a significantly reduced stock market value, a $1T off-the-budget, bill of borrowed money for a ****ing contest in Iraq, increased terrorism as the real terrorists were essentially left alone to strengthen, etc. Did he ever veto any spending bill (even when republicans controlled both the senate and congress)? GW's extensive spending makes Obama seem a fiscally conservative. Come to think of it, can you name even one success of the eight GW years. I can think of only one - He was so inept that he opened the door for the first minority in US history to be elected president. If you don't like Obama being president, you can thank GW - His inept leadership made it all possible. Although GW made numerous mistakes, his biggest were likely tinkering with a successful tax code (his rebates for the wealthy were all made with borrowed money and failed to add any jobs), failing to curtail any spending, invading Iraq (100% with again borrowed money) and allowing the 9/11 terrorists to essentially run free only to strengthen in numbers and force. Is there any doubt this loser will go down in history as the #1 worst president? |
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I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it
Bill Sornson wrote:
jeff wrote: Bill Sornson wrote: jeff wrote: Bill Sornson wrote: delboy wrote: On 3 Feb, 04:01, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in- the-jungle wrote: Hi IQ is not required for high office. It may be a hindrance. She (Sarah Palin) only needs to lead the sheep... I think George W. Bush has already proved that point! http://vdare.com/sailer/kerry_iq_lower.htm Goes to show what a decade or so of coke and booze will do. By the time he was president he must have killed off most of his brain. There's little evidence that he gave anything he did much thought. Pretty much all seat of the pants and kicking it down the road when the ideology failed. Jeff Yeah, and Gore flunked out of divinity school and ripped off the country to the tune of hundreds of millions on the natch. Obama smoked dope and did coke (admitted). Where are HIS college records? None of those ran the country straight into the ditch while they were being ideologues. 8 years of essentially zero job growth. The stock market about where it was when he took office. The worst terrorist incident on his watch and then he lets the master mind get away while he is avenging Daddies honor in Iraq. Not one thing improved on his watch if you don't count the rich getting richer. Mind you, he took the country to two wars off budget and pushed through that prescription drug benefit without the least thought to how to pay for it. And he left the financial system in shambles, most branches of the government in disfunction and the country in the worst recession since the 30's. Or did you forget all that? You think it is just a coincidence it all happened on his watch? What you got besides fear, hatred and innuendo? Jeff Dude, you're delusional. Unemployment was under 5% (technically "full employment") for record number of quarters under Bush. Unemployment rate is a fictional number that comes in many flavors. The figure you quote doesn't include those that have given up looking. How many people are employed can be more accurately determined: 132,469K when he took office 134,333K when he left Now, natural job growth due to population increase should be about 2,000K a year. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr...idential_terms It's no coincidence that the economy started going to hell when the Dems took control of Congress in the 2006 elections. Mind you that the Iraq War was in freefall under Rumsfeld, when the Dems came in and forced Bush to change to Gates who Obama retained. Everything that Bush and the Republican congress did was a house of cards. Largely unfunded. And both wars off budget. No wonder it has all unwound. No problem spending, you just need another tax break for the rich to pay for it. Crazy, huh? The Deficit nearly tripled under W. Obama put the wars in the budget. So you have real numbers, not fantasy. But you like the fantasy. (And yes, the most ideological president in history -- then Senator Barrack H. Obama -- voted for all the spending bills and complained that they weren't enough.) Historically money is put away for a rainy day. In the relatively good days of W the debt kept rising. Nothing but debt was left when the house of cards fell. Historically you spend your way out of a recession, the most notable exception was Hoover's policies at the start of the Great Depression. And just where did all those tax breaks for the rich go? They didn't go to building a better economy, they went into all those exotic financial instruments that wrecked the economy. Bush's biggest mistake was not vetoing a ton of ****. (He did try 18 separate and distinct times to reform Fanny and Freddie; see "Burning Down the House" unless Obama has had it removed from the internet like he just did a Reuters article on new "back door taxes".) Fanny and Freddie are not the main reasons the economy collapsed. It was bad oversite in just about every department. Your conservative buddies had done a fine job of dismantling all the safeguards and removing the watch dogs. When W left office almost every department was leaderless down through the top several rungs and had been that way for a while. Broken government and a broken economy is what W delivered. Obama has done nothing less than save the economy from freefall. The TARP money spent under Obama has largely been recovered or will be, much of the money spent under W is lost. But you think he did everything right. That is as delusional as you get. Now go run away and hide like you so want to. Jeff Out, BS |
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