Ouch - almost cycling

Hey all,

Woke up this morning, late for work and with hungover head, walked to the
station, took a quick look to my right as I walked across the pedestrian
crossing, came within a foot of the other side and *BAM*, flakey old c*ck
pensioner had cycled right into me and knocked me over. He then had a go at
me for crossing on red.

I was hungover and in foul-mood.

Don't you have arguing with someone when you know from the outset they're in
the right?

Tom.

Thomas wrote:

Hey all,

Woke up this morning, late for work and with hungover head, walked to the
station, took a quick look to my right as I walked across the pedestrian
crossing, came within a foot of the other side and *BAM*, flakey old c*ck
pensioner had cycled right into me and knocked me over. He then had a go at
me for crossing on red.

:-)

I hope I can still run people over when I'm a pensioner!

"Thomas" tom [at] greysheep [dot] co [dot] uk wrote in message
...
Hey all,

Woke up this morning, late for work and with hungover head, walked to the
station, took a quick look to my right as I walked across the pedestrian
crossing, came within a foot of the other side and *BAM*, flakey old c*ck
pensioner had cycled right into me and knocked me over. He then had a go
at
me for crossing on red.

I was hungover and in foul-mood.

Don't you have arguing with someone when you know from the outset they're
in
the right?

They were not in the right.
You were not in the right either mind you, but the HC does say something
about not being allowed to run people over or hit them because they haven't
got the right of way.
He must have had plenty of time to think about it by the time you got to a
foot of the other side. Perhaps if he has jurassic reaction times he needs
to be more careful.

"Thomas" tom [at] greysheep [dot] co [dot] uk wrote in message
...
Hey all,

Woke up this morning, late for work and with hungover head, walked to the
station, took a quick look to my right as I walked across the pedestrian
crossing, came within a foot of the other side and *BAM*, flakey old c*ck
pensioner had cycled right into me and knocked me over. He then had a go
at
me for crossing on red.

I was hungover and in foul-mood.

Don't you have arguing with someone when you know from the outset they're
in
the right?

Tom.



Must admit, I thought pedestrians always took priority, no matter how much
of a poor decision they've made ;-)
.....and crossings with lights only have lights to *make* car drivers
stop....back in the day, there never used to be lights associated with
crossings, apart from belching beacons (I know, I know, can't remember how
to spell belcha / belesha / whatever!!). This is because folks was more
polite back then and would actually inconvenience themselves for a couple of
seconds to allow a pedestrian to cross. The lights are to force road users
to stop, rather than giving priority to road users or pavement users,
although this is the effect it has and I wouldn't be suprised if the H/C
hasn't been subtley ammended to reflect this.....
Dave
(standing by to be corrected - a lot!!)

I wouldn't be suprised if the H/C
hasn't been subtley ammended to reflect this.....
Dave
(standing by to be corrected - a lot!!)

Here's what the HC currently says..

Under the pedestrian section

Rule 18

At all crossings. When using any type of crossing you should

always check that the traffic has stopped before you start to cross or push a
pram onto a crossing always cross between the studs or over the zebra markings.
Do not cross at the side of the crossing or on the zig-zag lines, as it can be
dangerous.
You MUST NOT loiter on zebra, pelican or puffin crossings.
Laws ZPPPCRGD reg 19 & RTRA sect 25(5)

Rule 19

Zebra crossings. Give traffic plenty of time to see you and to stop before you
start to cross. Vehicles will need more time when the road is slippery.
Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the
crossing. Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road is
clear before crossing. Keep looking both ways, and listening, in case a driver
or rider has not seen you and attempts to overtake a vehicle that has stopped

Rule 20

Where there is an island in the middle of a zebra crossing, wait on the island
and follow Rule 19 before you cross the second half of the road - it is a
separate crossing.

Rule 21

At traffic lights. There may be special signals for pedestrians. You should
only start to cross the road when the green figure shows. If you have started
to cross the road and the green figure goes out, you should still have time to
reach the other side, but do not delay. If no pedestrian signals have been
provided, watch carefully and do not cross until the traffic lights are red and
the traffic has stopped. Keep looking and check for traffic that may be turning
the corner. Remember that traffic lights may let traffic move in some lanes
while traffic in other lanes has stopped.

Rule 22

Pelican crossings. These are signal-controlled crossings operated by
pedestrians. Push the control button to activate the traffic signals. When the
red figure shows, do not cross. When a steady green figure shows, check the
traffic has stopped then cross with care. When the green figure begins to flash
you should not start to cross. If you have already started you should have time
to finish crossing safely.

Rule 23

At some pelican crossings there is a bleeping sound to indicate to blind or
partially-sighted people when the steady green figure is showing, and there may
be a tactile signal to help deafblind people.

Rule 24

When the road is congested, traffic on your side of the road may be forced to
stop even though their lights are green. Traffic may still be moving on the
other side of the road, so press the button and wait for the signal to cross.

Rule 25

Puffin and toucan crossings. These differ from pelican crossings as there is no
flashing green figure phase. On puffin crossings the red and green figures are
above the control box on your side of the road. Press the button and wait for
the green figure to show. On toucan crossings cyclists are permitted to ride
across the road (see Rule 65).

Must admit, I wasn't aware cyclists could ride across using a Toucan.
Personally, I'm happy with my Bianchi ;-)

Cheers, helen s






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"dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" wrote in
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Rule 25

Puffin and toucan crossings. These differ from pelican crossings as there
is no
flashing green figure phase. On puffin crossings the red and green figures
are
above the control box on your side of the road. Press the button and wait
for
the green figure to show. On toucan crossings cyclists are permitted to
ride
across the road (see Rule 65).

Must admit, I wasn't aware cyclists could ride across using a Toucan.
Personally, I'm happy with my Bianchi ;-)

toucan = "two can" cross

cheers,
clive

Helen S wrote:


Rule 21

At traffic lights. There may be special signals for pedestrians. You
should only start to cross the road when the green figure shows. If
you have started to cross the road and the green figure goes out, you
should still have time to reach the other side, but do not delay. If
no pedestrian signals have been provided, watch carefully and do not
cross until the traffic lights are red and the traffic has stopped.
Keep looking and check for traffic that may be turning the corner.
Remember that traffic lights may let traffic move in some lanes while
traffic in other lanes has stopped.

Additional 1: The extinguishing of the red light does not mean "start
mincing across the road in a manner that would make John Inman blush with
embarrassment as you attempt to not spill your overpriced sludge from
f****** Starbucks".

Additional 2: This rule not apply if you have just come from, are about to
go into, Liverpool Street Station. In this case, feel free to fanny about
in the middle of the road at your own convenience. Oh, you do already?

Rule 24

When the road is congested, traffic on your side of the road may be
forced to stop even though their lights are green. Traffic may still
be moving on the other side of the road, so press the button and wait
for the signal to cross.

Additional: When the road is "congested", remember that those who go about
their business on two wheels may still be moving. Do not wonder out from
behind a stationary, and opaque, vehicle with your nose buried in your
newspaper or with your gaze fixed earnestly on your toes like an
early-nineties neo-miserablist Indie Kid, ere ye collect a Mighty Kawasaki
in the small of the back.

And another thing. Who was responsible for giving light-controlled
crossings these ridiculous names? If I find out, then the day after I lead
the Panzers down Whitehall, I shall get the Sweeney to smash up their
offices daily until they emigrate.

Bah!

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"dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" wrote in
message ...
I wouldn't be suprised if the H/C
hasn't been subtley ammended to reflect this.....
Dave
(standing by to be corrected - a lot!!)

Here's what the HC currently says..

Under the pedestrian section

Rule 18

At all crossings. When using any type of crossing you should

always check that the traffic has stopped before you start to cross or
push a
pram onto a crossing always cross between the studs or over the zebra
markings.
Do not cross at the side of the crossing or on the zig-zag lines, as it
can be
dangerous.
You MUST NOT loiter on zebra, pelican or puffin crossings.
Laws ZPPPCRGD reg 19 & RTRA sect 25(5)

Rule 19

Zebra crossings. Give traffic plenty of time to see you and to stop before
you
start to cross. Vehicles will need more time when the road is slippery.
Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto
the
crossing. Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road
is
clear before crossing. Keep looking both ways, and listening, in case a
driver
or rider has not seen you and attempts to overtake a vehicle that has
stopped

Rule 20

Where there is an island in the middle of a zebra crossing, wait on the
island
and follow Rule 19 before you cross the second half of the road - it is a
separate crossing.

Rule 21

At traffic lights. There may be special signals for pedestrians. You
should
only start to cross the road when the green figure shows. If you have
started
to cross the road and the green figure goes out, you should still have
time to
reach the other side, but do not delay. If no pedestrian signals have been
provided, watch carefully and do not cross until the traffic lights are
red and
the traffic has stopped. Keep looking and check for traffic that may be
turning
the corner. Remember that traffic lights may let traffic move in some
lanes
while traffic in other lanes has stopped.

Rule 22

Pelican crossings. These are signal-controlled crossings operated by
pedestrians. Push the control button to activate the traffic signals. When
the
red figure shows, do not cross. When a steady green figure shows, check
the
traffic has stopped then cross with care. When the green figure begins to
flash
you should not start to cross. If you have already started you should have
time
to finish crossing safely.

Rule 23

At some pelican crossings there is a bleeping sound to indicate to blind
or
partially-sighted people when the steady green figure is showing, and
there may
be a tactile signal to help deafblind people.

Rule 24

When the road is congested, traffic on your side of the road may be forced
to
stop even though their lights are green. Traffic may still be moving on
the
other side of the road, so press the button and wait for the signal to
cross.

Rule 25

Puffin and toucan crossings. These differ from pelican crossings as there
is no
flashing green figure phase. On puffin crossings the red and green figures
are
above the control box on your side of the road. Press the button and wait
for
the green figure to show. On toucan crossings cyclists are permitted to
ride
across the road (see Rule 65).

Must admit, I wasn't aware cyclists could ride across using a Toucan.
Personally, I'm happy with my Bianchi ;-)

Cheers, helen s






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Presumably thus absolving cagers of any need to be considerate to
pedestrians (almost like seperate species, eh ;-)....If you doubt me, stand
in the middle of a crossing as the lights turn to green...if you've got a
flag you could do an impression of a start to the Indie2000 or somesuchthing
where an individual stands in the middle of the track and waves the flag to
start...Red..Amber (vroomvrooom - ready for the off )..Green Vroooooom -
gone..."wha'f*ckin'pedestrian?!!?"...s'aright mate, says so in the highway
code...there fault, no probs!!
Dave ;-)
Slowly beginning to totally despair of UK society, totally

Dave Larrington wondered:
And another thing. Who was responsible for giving light-controlled
crossings these ridiculous names?

The "Charley Says" DVD, which I received for Christmas, includes public
service films about the introduction of pelican crossings. One of those
mentioned that the name comes from PEdestrian LIght CONtrolled
crossings. I guess the others just followed the theme of birds with
funny beaks.

--
Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

Danny Colyer wrote:

I guess the others just followed the theme of
birds with funny beaks.

Does that mean we'll be using Streisand crossings one day?

Simon