Tubus Cosmo Rack = Expensive Crap for Posers

Nate Nagel wrote:
On 06/08/2011 08:55 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per AMuzi:
river just take it is
less wasteful and much less expensive. We aren't going to
run out of deer any time soon. We're infested with the
damned things - rats with antlers.

"Pennsylvania Speed Bumps"

or, "dinner."

nate

(bunnies taste good too...)


Canadian News of the Day:
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktl...,7949704.story

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Jun 9, 8:15*am, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Jun 9, 6:44*am, DougC wrote:



...
It doesn't allow me to save the message (or even drag & copy it). The
dialog box keeps pointer focus until you enter a valid username and
password, or until you press the [cancel] button,,, but when you press
[cancel] then the dialog AND the message compose window both disappear. :/

Sounds vaguely like one of my complaints about Windoze. *An error
occurs, a message box pops up with some arcane explanation of the
error, but Windoze provides no convenient way to copy the explanation
for researching the problem. *I'm forced to click the "OK" button (but
it's _not_ "OK"!) and the explanation vanishes.

The only alternative I've found is to grab a screenshot and open other
software to view it - assuming the system is still breathing.


Dr Watson

In article
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Chalo wrote:

David Scheidt wrote:

Michael Press wrote:
:
: Breaking the bolt is not the design flaw.
: Transverse vibrations act to unscrew the threaded fastener.
: Nylon friction nuts are an abomination unto The Lord.

Properly preloaded screws do not vibrate loose.

Shorter than a certain length, there is not enough elastic range in a
bolt to remain tight in a high-vibration environment. In my
observation this can be as much about embedding the screw head as it
is about dynamic forces acting to unscrew the fastener. When the
aluminum surface (of a rack strut, in this case) yields under the head
of a harder fastener, the fastener can become loose-- especially if
its clamped thickness is small.

In this situation, nylock nuts are just the ticket.

Nylock nuts are nasty to install & remove;
and they signal a bad design. An abomination.

I bought a new appliance that had nylon
friction washers on frequently used nuts.
I stabbed them with an ice pick until they fell out.

--
Michael Press

In article ,
DougC wrote:

On 6/8/2011 9:38 PM, Tºm Shermªn °_° wrote:
On 6/8/2011 9:15 PM, DougC wrote:

****! thunderbird occasionally loses mail server contact, and ate my
long response[...]

Did you check you "sent" folder? My messages still end up there when
sending a message times out.


that option was not checked, I suppose I will see if it works.

the exact error is something to do with the newsgroups server on
Charter,,,, when the situation occurs, a [enter username & password for
newsgroup server] dialog pops up,,,, but I'm on cable. There is no
username or password for newsgroups at all, only email.
...
It doesn't allow me to save the message (or even drag & copy it). The
dialog box keeps pointer focus until you enter a valid username and
password, or until you press the [cancel] button,,, but when you press
[cancel] then the dialog AND the message compose window both disappear. :/

Compose your messages offline. Then you have a copy.

--
Michael Press

On Jun 7, 3:58*pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Jun 7, 6:15*am, Helmut Springer wrote:



I assume it wasn't an option to look at the spec, likehttp://www.tubus.com/images/stories/product/rearcarriers/cosmo/2008_0...

That doesn't look like it _should_ be confusing...

- Frank Krygowski

He's taking you for a ride again and you are blind to it.

On Jun 9, 11:04*pm, thirty-six wrote:
On Jun 7, 3:58*pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On Jun 7, 6:15*am, Helmut Springer wrote:

I assume it wasn't an option to look at the spec, likehttp://www.tubus.com/images/stories/product/rearcarriers/cosmo/2008_0...

That doesn't look like it _should_ be confusing...

- Frank Krygowski

He's taking you for a ride again and you are blind to it.

Oh dear. It's pretty clear that Springer is smarter than you, Trevor,
but that doesn't say much, since everyone is smarter than you. Being
smarter than you doesn't make Springer smart enough to take anyone for
a ride. Well, maybe a kitten firmly locked in a pet box small enough
to fit on the Tubus Cosmo, which doesn't fit a pet box for a proper
cat at all. -- Andre Jute

On Friday, June 3, 2011 3:13:15 PM UTC-7, Coolmaine wrote:
The good quality ali rack which came on my Utopia Kranich sacrificed
itself to protect my bike when it was twice attacked by a carelessly
driven Range Rover. Once I managed to straighten it but the second
time it was crippled forever.

On the principle of buying good gear once rather than cheap gear
repeatedly, I ordered what was said to be the best rack, the Tubus
Cosmo. This is a stainless steel rack. Mine cost well over a hundred
euro landed from the British bike component discounters, Wiggle. The
stainless steel is a dull gray, not polished. The rack gets it
lightweight spec from being undersized. It is meanly narrow and
shortarsed too. It looks like a toy on my balloon-tired bike.

The worst thing about dealing with Tubus is that, even after I asked
their service department if their rack would fit, and was assured it
would, it still wouldn't fit. You have to buy an extra fitting kit for
another ten or twelve Euro. Not that the original fitting kit is
complete either. In fact, between the original fitting kit and the
extended fitting kit, there still were not enough nuts and bolts to
fit the rack, so I reused some that were in my old rack. Also, there
was an absence of the necessary nuts -- Tubus apparently assumes every
frame is tapped at all points. Also totally absent were spring
washers.

It's just as well that after a year the Tubus rack started creaking,
or I would not have discovered all the loose bolts on it.

I'd put up with this sort of crap, and go buy my own spring washers,
if the rack were actually useful, but it isn't. It is admirably stiff,
but the stiffness is achieved by triangulation that makes it very
awkard to impossible to use for carrying luggage. For instance, the
lower rail on each side angles in under the top rail, so that I can't
hang a common Basil pannier basket without mangling the hooks.

I cannot recommend the Cosmo. It is a poseur's rack, of little
practical use. The makers charge a huge amount of money for it and
don't even give you all the necessary fitting parts. It would probably
be a good rack if it were bigger, in which case the clumsy angling of
the lower rails might not matter, and if it came with enough fitting
components and spring washers to keep it on the bike. As it is sold, I
am decidedly unimpressed.

Coolmaine, you are an idiot and seem to think that your every utterance or desire is sanctified because you are English and have a modicum of vocabulary. The exact dimensions of the rack as well as all the mounting hardware that comes with it are readily available on the Tubus website and the fact that you bought it and are unhappy is entirely your fault. Since when "you decide you care, it always works out", quit crying about your Basil panniers not working and make them work as many others do. Oh right, apparently everyone who owns, utilizes and likes the Cosmo is a "poseur". You are technically the insular, thick one since you live on an island and did no research.. Be smart, don't reply and confirm your ignorance.

rack sites post outstanding photos...

but buying ?

check the market response eg


http://www.bikepacking.net/routes/gr...in-bike-route/