Bicycle Design Competition Concludes: Seattle Wins

On Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:43:39 AM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/20/2014 8:04 PM, jbeattie wrote:

On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:10:10 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 8/20/2014 6:55 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:



On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 11:30:26 -0400, Frank Krygowski



wrote:







Continuation...







Those contests seem pretty challenging. At this point in history,



significantly improving the bicycle is a lot like trying to



significantly improve the pocketknife.







I presume you've been ignoring my random postings of "concept" bicycle



designs.







No, I actually do read your posts and click your links.







Like most design concepts, they are futuristic, impractical,



weird looking, unbuildable, and unsellable. What I suspect you're



missing is that they don't try to generally improve the bicycle.







Honestly, I think the objective of the "design" exercise has little to



do with actually improving the bicycle, much like the objective of a



painting is not to produce better canvas. The artist/painter uses the



canvas as a medium to express his creativity, his concept of beauty,



etc. The bike designer uses the bicycle as a medium to demonstrate his



creativity and his capacity to innovate.







And as we know, if it's "innovative" it _must_ be good! Stodgy old



designs that merely work extremely well don't get the same adulation.





OTOH, many legitimate advances have started as "concepts." Personally, I wait about five product generations before buying. I can't remember when being an early adopter actually paid off. I'm still sore about buying first generation Goretex and all the incandescent lighting systems I have sitting around in the basement. I feel sorry (sort of) for the guys who bought Mektronic.



I could see the locking handle bar trickling down, and e-bikes are already here. The "wiper" fender seems like a non-starter in a real rainstorm. My perfect bike would have stadium lighting and not a bunch of one-watt LEDs. I think turn signals are dopey, but hey, maybe I'm just a Luddite and they're the next big thing.



-- Jay Beattie.





Trouble is, you never know the future until it gets here and

smacks you. Mektronic is a good example. On a personal note,

KayPro CP/M computer, Rambler with pushbutton gearbox and a

dozen generations of credit card readers. OTOH my 1953

Raleigh was designed and built for the ages.



--

Andrew Muzi

www.yellowjersey.org/

Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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YEAH, but buyers doahn whan 'last for' buyers whan LED's connect to geosynchronus severs. They do not SEE 'last for'

no beauty innit caws day doahn SEE IT !

their deal makes me tired just thinking abt catching up with TECHNOLOGY where I'm immersed in ENDS play n daze stuffing MEANS play.

sure as hell THEY'RE nit gonna design for us caws weez gonna expire.

an enclosed belt drive 5 speed is AAA commuting.

but FWD ? whattheirname's goona build FWD ? I shall not hold muh breath. not

do you know what Copenhagen Wheel is up to ?

On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:49:36 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

Hmm. I can't remember ever being an early adopter!

Maybe the concept designs are too radical for you. Here's the latest
production bikes:

"The 10 most beautiful bicycles"
http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20140821-the-10-most-beautiful-bicycles

How about this ebike for impressing your friends and neighbors:
http://www.cykno.com/en/home.aspx
Only $22,000.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:18:23 PM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:49:36 -0400, Frank Krygowski

wrote:



Hmm. I can't remember ever being an early adopter!



Maybe the concept designs are too radical for you. Here's the latest

production bikes:



"The 10 most beautiful bicycles"

http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20140821-the-10-most-beautiful-bicycles



How about this ebike for impressing your friends and neighbors:

http://www.cykno.com/en/home.aspx

Only $22,000.



--

Jeff Liebermann

150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com

Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com

Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558




http://goo.gl/XRdOuM

On Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:18:23 PM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Maybe the concept designs are too radical for you. Here's the latest
production bikes:



"The 10 most beautiful bicycles"

http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20140821-the-10-most-beautiful-bicycles

.... proving that beauty really is in the eye of the beholder.

- Frank Krygowski

yack

http://goo.gl/IM1eSz

the 'new design' needs gross positive movement from standard to higher levels of effectiveness...moving the entire platform higher

for to claim relevance.

holding the bike up doesn't cut it. moonlight sonata photo shoots ditto....

ifn ura so called design groups gonna start the dialog with electronics connections...minus points.

Like the winnah...OK the airplane guys wrapped a dumbbell around the front end, hired a band, then walked away...where's the specs and road tes,t stupid ?