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  #61  
Old February 8th 10, 09:55 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Default I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it

Edward Dolan wrote:
"jeff" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:

[...]
The Repubs do blather on about taxes way too much I must admit. But we
have got to get some control over spending. That is the problem, not
taxes.
[...]

Exactly what spending? I've posted the links to the 2010 budget, did you
look? What would you cut in the discretionary that would make a
difference?


ALL spending - you dolt!


So, no roads, no government services of any kind.

Doesn't matter what is in your sausage, your water or your air.

No police, CIA, FBI or Fire Department.

That is just stupid.

Would you take the wars off budget again so the numbers look better?


There is one main reason why we have a federal government, to protect the
people. Why do the Dems always want to cut defense spending?

As someone put it, The Tea Party is like a dog chasing a car. If they
ever caught it they wouldn't know what to do with it.
The Tea Party movement is a sign of hope. They want smaller government
and less spending. If you are on the frugal living group, you should be
for it.

Sarah is a woman with much ambition, but little ability. She has little
clue of what is going on. She has narrow dogmatic beliefs. It is not just
liberals that believe that.


Just keep believing that and you will soon get the surprise of your life.
McCain was dead until he got hold of Sarah.


Then he was really dead.

Sarah ran a state where the average citizen received far more from the
government dole than the lower 48. Indeed while she was mayor of Wasilla
she lobbied heavily and got government dollars. And she quit the
Governership in shambles, she treated the office like it was for family
and personal benefit. What a messy family life she leads.


Who cares about any of the above. Alaska has always been ****ed up. So what
else is new?

Sarah at least is not a murderer like liberals are (abortion).


Why is it that right wingers care more about a 1 minute old embryo
than a 1 minute old baby. Seems wrong to me. I do not support abortion
willy nilly either.

But she think like you, which is to say, not deeply.


We deep thinkers are alike in that we hate liberals. But Mass. gives us
hope. Imagine people so stupid as to keep voting for Kennedy even though he
was a murderer (Chappaquiddick) and a craven coward. But that is a liberal
for you!


I've mostly just seen seething blind hatred. Surely no reflection on
past failures or what the policies will actually do. There are no
numbers, no facts, just a divine belief that you are right. That is just
pure crazy.

Jeff

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



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  #62  
Old February 8th 10, 10:16 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Default I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it

Edward Dolan wrote:
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jeff wrote:
Edward Dolan wrote:

[...]
Colin Powell in fact is guilty of treason himself. He was never loyal to
Bush. Why did he not resign if he did not agree with Bush on the Iraq
war? He was nothing but an opportunist and owed everything he was to the
Repubs. **** that cowardly general - who never met a war that he liked.

I missed this before.

They were all loyal, and they all came to understand the facts were
being manipulated. It is not just Colin Powell but George Tenet, Paul
O'Neill, Scott McClellan, Richard Clarke...


Yup, they were all just too dumb to ever see anything until it was too late.


You haven't read a word of what any of them have said, have you? You
just believe, because you believe. Any evidence that might oppose what
you believe must be blocked.

Such blind faith. Pride comes before the fall.

Powell was a typical army general, not wanting to get out ahead, and
being faithful. The UN speech is what gave the Iraq war it's rationale. It
was all misinformation made up by the OVP (Cheney).


Nothing was made up - you confounded dolt.


All of it was made up by wishful interpretation of raw intelligence.
They used to call it "feith based", because Doug Feith made it all up.
He would put in anything that strengthened the case for war, no matter
how unlikely or discredited it was. All of it came out of the OVP which
ran it's own (faulty) intel analysis. Absolutely all of it has been
discredited. Even W, Cheney and Rumsfeld now say there were no weapons
of mass destruction.

Colin Powell had one week to write that UN speech. The OVP kept
putting stuff that had to be thrown out. What remained in there the OVP
vouched that is was true.


Everyone in the world believed
that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and that he would use them (as
he had in the past). Apparently, only you ever believed otherwise.



Nope. The Germans warned repeatedly that Curveball (that's the basis
of the bio terror) was not to be relied on. In fact they never even
talked to him to check (US) as he was in Germany. All that came out of
some screwball report.

There was plenty of evidence that the aluminum tubes were completely
unsuited for centrifuges, and for multiple reasons. And there was plenty
of evidence for what they were really used for.

Bill Sornson has posted many times what everyone was saying at the time. But
of course, liberals are never deterred by any facts.


I haven't seen a fact yet from you. I like facts. Show me one.

All liberals know how
to do is spin, spin, spin and lie, lie, lie! And of course, hindsight is
always 20/20.


No spin, just the truth. I've posted references to what Clinton did,
what is in the budget, what W didn't do. And you have, nothing... but
your blind convictions.

Jeff

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



  #63  
Old February 9th 10, 02:12 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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"jeff" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:

[...]
Iraq was the central battleground as long we we there. Even the Islamic
extremists agreed with that.


Hows that? There was no alQaeda in any part of Iraq that Saddam
controlled. There was only after we invaded. Get the difference?


There were other good and sufficient reasons for taking out Iraq. Once we
invaded we got two for the price of one. Get the difference?

What difference does it make whether we kill
them in Iraq or Afghanistan or Pakistan or anywhere else. The important
thing is to kill them wherever they are.


The crew in Iraq didn't exist before. Iraq turned into a huge recruiting
boost for alQaeda. One of the reasons, now that we are on the way out,
that their influence has fallen.


That is because we defeated them in Iraq, something that would never have
happened if liberal Dems had been in charge.
[...]

So far, Obama is making a mess
of everything.


Except the economy is on the mend. GDP is up, unemployment heading down.
Much success in killing alQaeda. Millions of people retained their
unemployment benefits.


Nothing much is happening yet if you ask me.

But the recession comes first. Note that the value of the dollar which
had fallen so much under W is up under Obama. That borrowing rates are
historically low and that the % debt to GDP was higher post war.

You can not lower taxes and fix the debt. It has always been the
opposite. Even Reagan and George Bush 1 had to raise taxes after a
while. Trickle Down does not work.


Trickle down works in the short term, but not in the long term. We all
believe in the progressive income tax, don't we?


All that money that W gave to the rich didn't help the economy. It
wasn't invested in productive work. A lot of it went into those exotic
financial instruments that wrecked the economy.


Nope, we had a good economy under Bush until the bubble burst.

The economy did very well under Clinton with a top marginal Tax Rate of
39.6%. Not that anyone pays that after tax breaks. What's wrong with going
back to that?


Yes, I am in favor of that too.

There is little discretionary spending that can be cut, and the right
refuses to consider tackling mandatory. The only plan they had was to
privatize SS, the safety net. How many people would be destitute now if
that had been in place?


Agree with you on the above.


I'm glad we agree on something!

Bush was a big spender and he never vetoed anything. He was not a true
conservative by any means.
He was the darling of the conservative set, how can you deny that? You
still defend and admire him.


I admire Bush for taking on the Islamic extremists, something Clinton
never did. The invasion of Iraq was a stroke of genius. Bravo Bush!


Nope. Clinton had a comprehensive plan, one that was handed off to W who
did nothing. Read Richard Clarke, George Tenet, Paul O'Neill, any of those
who worked in the W Whitehouse (all Republicans) and they will tell you
that W was obsessed with Saddam and cared not a whit about alQaeda,
until... and then the first reaction was to go after Iraq.


It was time to accomplish several things at the time. Only Bush had the guts
to do it.

Mind you that the designers of the first WTC attack were all arrested
and successfully prosecuted.


Clinton never woke up from his slumbers. He treated them as criminals, not
Islamic terrorists that were at war with us.

While all that was happening the right repeatedly said that Clinton was
too obsessed with alQaeda. The focus shifted when W took office.

And, you do realize there was no alQaeda in any part of Iraq that Saddam
controlled. After the invasion, those were alQaeda converts, that didn't
exist before. All for the loss of thousands of American Military personnel
and many many innocent civilians (The average civilian death toll was on
the order of a hundred a day for years) and a trillion dollars or so.


Who cares how many Iraqis die for whatever reason. Did you care about the
Iraqis that were being murdered under Saddam? Did you care about the Kurds
that were being gassed to death by Saddam?

American losses have also been minimal. You like statistics so much, why not
compare our military losses with losses from road accidents on our highways.
Or is a soldier more valuable than a civilian?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



  #64  
Old February 9th 10, 02:28 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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"jeff" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:
"jeff" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:

[...]
I leave it to others with lesser minds than mine to supply facts. I
supply ideology.
Yes. Which makes you an ideologue. Someone who believes just because
they do.


I am a conservative ideologue based on my reading of history and my views
on human nature. What do you base your beliefs on?


I'm a pragmatist and know a good bit about history and warfare.


You are libearl idealogeu I cna't underatdn what yo ar edoign on frugal
lviing. Yo are abig spender jstu liek all liberasl are. Waht is frugal about
that?

I hate Leftists because they have been wrong about most everything
for the past hundred years. Furthermore, it was Leftists that gave us
the 20th century, the worst century in the history of the West.
An odd turn there. Was it not the right wing that brought us both world
wars?


WWI was brought on by a general lust for war by all the great powers. It
marked the end of three empires.


And you think Kaiser Wilhelm, Hötzendorf and Berchtold were leftists?


I clearly stated taht WWI was exceptional.


WWII was brought on by Leftists like
Hitler,



Bzzt. Leftist? Get real, he was a right wing fascist.

Fascism, pronounced /'fæ??z?m/, is a political ideology that seeks to
combine radical and authoritarian nationalism[1][2][3][4] with a
corporatist economic system.[5] Scholars generally consider it to be on
the far right of the traditional left-right political spectrum.


Jeez, I wonder where they ever got the term NAZI? Look it up!

Mussolini

Bzzt. fascist.

and Stalin; Korea and Vietnam, again by Leftists. Or do
you think republican democracies start wars?


You don't have clue about the difference between being a Socialist, a
Communist and a Democrat. Have you ever talked to people that lived under
communism? I know quite a number that escaped from the iron curtain. There
is no comparison between Obama and Communism in their minds.


The goal of leftist ideology is complete control of the people. Then they
find out that they can only accomplish that by dictatorship and tyranny.
Why? Because your leftist crap goes against human nature and indeed history
itself.
[...]

Let's talk about Edwards, a real scum bucket if ever there was one.


Why. Is he running? Was he president? I never liked him. Did I ever say I
did?


Is Sarah running for president?

Is he worse than Mark Sanford? Or any of the numerous closeted gay
republicans that have taken a wide stance?


Dems do not have enough shame to closet themselves. Barney Frank ran a male
prostitution ring out of his house in Mass.

Kerry
was a scum bucket too.


Same as above.


Sanford never ran for president. Unlike Kerry, I think he always supported
this nation in its wars. Repubs are not treasonous *******s like liberal
Dems.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



  #65  
Old February 9th 10, 02:37 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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"jeff" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:
"jeff" wrote in message
...
Edward Dolan wrote:

[...]
The Repubs do blather on about taxes way too much I must admit. But we
have got to get some control over spending. That is the problem, not
taxes.
[...]
Exactly what spending? I've posted the links to the 2010 budget, did
you look? What would you cut in the discretionary that would make a
difference?


ALL spending - you dolt!


So, no roads, no government services of any kind.

Doesn't matter what is in your sausage, your water or your air.

No police, CIA, FBI or Fire Department.

That is just stupid.


Just cut spending. You would not know frugal if it jumped up and bit you in
your ass.
[...]

We deep thinkers are alike in that we hate liberals. But Mass. gives us
hope. Imagine people so stupid as to keep voting for Kennedy even though
he was a murderer (Chappaquiddick) and a craven coward. But that is a
liberal for you!


I've mostly just seen seething blind hatred. Surely no reflection on
past failures or what the policies will actually do. There are no numbers,
no facts, just a divine belief that you are right. That is just pure
crazy.


You like immoral *******s like Ted Kennedy. I don't. President Kennedy was
also a scofflaw and a terrible president who bungled the Cuban invasion.
Apparently only the Bushs know how to invade and win.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #66  
Old February 9th 10, 02:51 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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"jeff" wrote in message
...
Edward Dolan wrote:

[...]
Everyone in the world believed
that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and that he would use them
(as he had in the past). Apparently, only you ever believed otherwise.

Nope. The Germans warned repeatedly that Curveball (that's the basis of
the bio terror) was not to be relied on. In fact they never even talked to
him to check (US) as he was in Germany. All that came out of some
screwball report.

There was plenty of evidence that the aluminum tubes were completely
unsuited for centrifuges, and for multiple reasons. And there was plenty
of evidence for what they were really used for.


Have you ever thought of going to work for an intelligence agency? We badly
need those who are expert in hindsight.

Bill Sornson has posted many times what everyone was saying at the time.
But of course, liberals are never deterred by any facts.


I haven't seen a fact yet from you. I like facts. Show me one.


Only if you tell me how you are frugal. So far, all you have done is defend
big free spending liberal Dems.

All liberals know how
to do is spin, spin, spin and lie, lie, lie! And of course, hindsight is
always 20/20.


No spin, just the truth. I've posted references to what Clinton did,
what is in the budget, what W didn't do. And you have, nothing... but your
blind convictions.


Facts are the last refuge of a scoundrel. We can all pick and choose our
facts. Your liberal bias disqualifies you from having any credibility when
it comes to facts. You and Tom Sherman should get together. He only likes
his "liberal" facts too. I will stick with Bill Sornson who at least knows a
fact when he sees one.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #67  
Old February 9th 10, 03:18 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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"jeff" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:

[...]
Sarah at least is not a murderer like liberals are (abortion).


Why is it that right wingers care more about a 1 minute old embryo than
a 1 minute old baby. Seems wrong to me. I do not support abortion willy
nilly either.


A human life begins at conception. A woman should not **** if she does not
want a baby. A man similarly should not **** if he does not want a baby.
What is there about this that you do not understand?

Saint Edward the Great is the last celibate in the known universe. That is
because He never wanted a baby and indeed would not mind if mankind perished
from this earth. Now perhaps you get a glimmer of what is meant by frugal
living!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #68  
Old February 9th 10, 04:43 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Default I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it

Edward Dolan wrote:
"jeff" wrote in message
...
Edward Dolan wrote:

[...]
Iraq was the central battleground as long we we there. Even the Islamic
extremists agreed with that.

Hows that? There was no alQaeda in any part of Iraq that Saddam
controlled. There was only after we invaded. Get the difference?


There were other good and sufficient reasons for taking out Iraq.



So it had nothing to do with the real reason. And just what was that?

What justifies the loss of 4K Americans, 100's of thousand of
innocent civilians and the inexorable rise of Iran?

Once we
invaded we got two for the price of one. Get the difference?


There is little benefit for the cost paid. Your reasons look like
accidents.

What difference does it make whether we kill
them in Iraq or Afghanistan or Pakistan or anywhere else. The important
thing is to kill them wherever they are.

The crew in Iraq didn't exist before. Iraq turned into a huge recruiting
boost for alQaeda. One of the reasons, now that we are on the way out,
that their influence has fallen.


That is because we defeated them in Iraq, something that would never have
happened if liberal Dems had been in charge.


Wrong. The alQaeda threat in Pak remained, it didn't move to Iraq so we
could kill them there. It grew dramatically. You think alQaeda just got
on the bus and moved from Islamabad to Baghdad. Crazy. The amount of
foreign born alQaeda in Iraq was never more that 5% or so of alQaeda's
strength.


[...]

So far, Obama is making a mess
of everything.

Except the economy is on the mend. GDP is up, unemployment heading down.
Much success in killing alQaeda. Millions of people retained their
unemployment benefits.


Nothing much is happening yet if you ask me.


Doesn't seem like you know much.

http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/nati...ewsrelease.htm

Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services
produced by labor and property
located in the United States -- increased at an annual rate of 5.7
percent in the fourth quarter of 2009,
(that is, from the third quarter to the fourth quarter), according to
the "advance" estimate released by the
Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the third quarter, real GDP increased
2.2 percent.



But the recession comes first. Note that the value of the dollar which
had fallen so much under W is up under Obama. That borrowing rates are
historically low and that the % debt to GDP was higher post war.

You can not lower taxes and fix the debt. It has always been the
opposite. Even Reagan and George Bush 1 had to raise taxes after a
while. Trickle Down does not work.
Trickle down works in the short term, but not in the long term. We all
believe in the progressive income tax, don't we?

All that money that W gave to the rich didn't help the economy. It
wasn't invested in productive work. A lot of it went into those exotic
financial instruments that wrecked the economy.


Nope, we had a good economy under Bush until the bubble burst.


Really. It was all bubble. The size of the workforce rose by less
than 2%, normal growth is 2% a year, not over 8 years.

GDP was markedly worse than under Clinton, or almost anyone else.

The financial system collapsed.

And that is your opinion of a good economy?

The economy did very well under Clinton with a top marginal Tax Rate of
39.6%. Not that anyone pays that after tax breaks. What's wrong with going
back to that?


Yes, I am in favor of that too.


Good.

There is little discretionary spending that can be cut, and the right
refuses to consider tackling mandatory. The only plan they had was to
privatize SS, the safety net. How many people would be destitute now if
that had been in place?
Agree with you on the above.

I'm glad we agree on something!
Bush was a big spender and he never vetoed anything. He was not a true
conservative by any means.
He was the darling of the conservative set, how can you deny that? You
still defend and admire him.
I admire Bush for taking on the Islamic extremists, something Clinton
never did. The invasion of Iraq was a stroke of genius. Bravo Bush!

Nope. Clinton had a comprehensive plan, one that was handed off to W who
did nothing. Read Richard Clarke, George Tenet, Paul O'Neill, any of those
who worked in the W Whitehouse (all Republicans) and they will tell you
that W was obsessed with Saddam and cared not a whit about alQaeda,
until... and then the first reaction was to go after Iraq.


It was time to accomplish several things at the time. Only Bush had the guts
to do it.


Exactly what did he accomplish? He didn't finish anything and left a
huge deteriorating mess in Afghanistan. The first thing Obama did was
double the commitment to Afghanistan, something that had been needed for
years and was turned down under W.

Mind you that the designers of the first WTC attack were all arrested
and successfully prosecuted.


Clinton never woke up from his slumbers. He treated them as criminals, not
Islamic terrorists that were at war with us.


Er, how was Richard Reid prosecuted under W? In fact there have been
many successful terrorist prosecution and absolutely none under a
military commission. You believe in a fairy tale.

While all that was happening the right repeatedly said that Clinton was
too obsessed with alQaeda. The focus shifted when W took office.

And, you do realize there was no alQaeda in any part of Iraq that Saddam
controlled. After the invasion, those were alQaeda converts, that didn't
exist before. All for the loss of thousands of American Military personnel
and many many innocent civilians (The average civilian death toll was on
the order of a hundred a day for years) and a trillion dollars or so.


Who cares how many Iraqis die for whatever reason.


Well that sums up your feelings doesn't it?

Jeff

Did you care about the
Iraqis that were being murdered under Saddam? Did you care about the Kurds
that were being gassed to death by Saddam?

American losses have also been minimal. You like statistics so much, why not
compare our military losses with losses from road accidents on our highways.
Or is a soldier more valuable than a civilian?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



  #69  
Old February 9th 10, 04:59 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Default I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it

Edward Dolan wrote:
"jeff" wrote in message
...
Edward Dolan wrote:
"jeff" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
I leave it to others with lesser minds than mine to supply facts. I
supply ideology.
Yes. Which makes you an ideologue. Someone who believes just because
they do.
I am a conservative ideologue based on my reading of history and my views
on human nature. What do you base your beliefs on?

I'm a pragmatist and know a good bit about history and warfare.


You are libearl idealogeu I cna't underatdn what yo ar edoign on frugal
lviing. Yo are abig spender jstu liek all liberasl are. Waht is frugal about
that?


You are so upset you can't even hit the right keys!

You are clueless because you only believe what you want, you haven't
really looked into anything other than to take someones word for it.

In fact I work at lowering my cost of living. I have a largely solar
heated home (all home made) and am currently making multiple layer mylar
insulating windows.

I hate Leftists because they have been wrong about most everything
for the past hundred years. Furthermore, it was Leftists that gave us
the 20th century, the worst century in the history of the West.
An odd turn there. Was it not the right wing that brought us both world
wars?
WWI was brought on by a general lust for war by all the great powers. It
marked the end of three empires.

And you think Kaiser Wilhelm, Hötzendorf and Berchtold were leftists?


I clearly stated taht WWI was exceptional.

WWII was brought on by Leftists like
Hitler,


Bzzt. Leftist? Get real, he was a right wing fascist.

Fascism, pronounced /'fæ??z?m/, is a political ideology that seeks to
combine radical and authoritarian nationalism[1][2][3][4] with a
corporatist economic system.[5] Scholars generally consider it to be on
the far right of the traditional left-right political spectrum.


Jeez, I wonder where they ever got the term NAZI? Look it up!


So just because it has the word socialist it is the same as the USSR?
That is rather superficial, don't you think? I suppose North Korea is
a democracy because it is the Peoples Democratic Republic of Korea?


Mussolini

Bzzt. fascist.

and Stalin; Korea and Vietnam, again by Leftists. Or do
you think republican democracies start wars?

You don't have clue about the difference between being a Socialist, a
Communist and a Democrat. Have you ever talked to people that lived under
communism? I know quite a number that escaped from the iron curtain. There
is no comparison between Obama and Communism in their minds.


The goal of leftist ideology is complete control of the people. Then they
find out that they can only accomplish that by dictatorship and tyranny.
Why? Because your leftist crap goes against human nature and indeed history
itself.


You have made up a strawman of your own creation to attack. The
Democratic party does not enforce any dictates, unlike the Republicans
who are noted for party discipline and intolerance.


[...]

Let's talk about Edwards, a real scum bucket if ever there was one.

Why. Is he running? Was he president? I never liked him. Did I ever say I
did?


Is Sarah running for president?


It appears so. She has specifically said she might.

Is he worse than Mark Sanford? Or any of the numerous closeted gay
republicans that have taken a wide stance?


Dems do not have enough shame to closet themselves. Barney Frank ran a male
prostitution ring out of his house in Mass.


You have not a shred of proof.

Kerry
was a scum bucket too.

Same as above.


Sanford never ran for president.


He was the next great Republican hope.

Unlike Kerry, I think he always supported
this nation in its wars. Repubs are not treasonous *******s like liberal
Dems.


I remember Orin Hatch giving away military secrets. In fact there are
far more Democrats in Congress with military records than Republicans.

Jeff

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



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Edward Dolan wrote:
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Edward Dolan wrote:
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Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
The Repubs do blather on about taxes way too much I must admit. But we
have got to get some control over spending. That is the problem, not
taxes.
[...]
Exactly what spending? I've posted the links to the 2010 budget, did
you look? What would you cut in the discretionary that would make a
difference?
ALL spending - you dolt!

So, no roads, no government services of any kind.

Doesn't matter what is in your sausage, your water or your air.

No police, CIA, FBI or Fire Department.

That is just stupid.


Just cut spending. You would not know frugal if it jumped up and bit you in
your ass.


What spending? There is little that can be cut.
[...]

We deep thinkers are alike in that we hate liberals. But Mass. gives us
hope. Imagine people so stupid as to keep voting for Kennedy even though
he was a murderer (Chappaquiddick) and a craven coward. But that is a
liberal for you!

I've mostly just seen seething blind hatred. Surely no reflection on
past failures or what the policies will actually do. There are no numbers,
no facts, just a divine belief that you are right. That is just pure
crazy.


You like immoral *******s like Ted Kennedy. I don't. President Kennedy was
also a scofflaw and a terrible president who bungled the Cuban invasion.
Apparently only the Bushs know how to invade and win.


Er win? Democrats have actually won more wars in recent history than
Republicans. WWI, WWII, Korea, Kosovo all waged and won by democratic
presidents.

Seems to me that both Bushes left the Iraq war unfinished. And Nixon
bailed on Vietnam.

Jeff

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


 




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