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Cyclists are a Perverted Pestulance [Times Article 18/02]
"Tony Raven" wrote in
: I've been thinking about that Guy and assume you must rarely drive above 20mph after dark based on the average throw of a dipped car headlight. Is this true? In a built up area where there are other lights and you're more likely to meet other vehicles? You could quite happily drive around without lights and see just as far as you could with them. Being seen without lights is another matter though and I'm not suggesting this as good practice at all. Graeme |
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Cyclists are a Perverted Pestulance [Times Article 18/02]
Graeme wrote:
"Tony Raven" wrote in : I've been thinking about that Guy and assume you must rarely drive above 20mph after dark based on the average throw of a dipped car headlight. Is this true? In a built up area where there are other lights and you're more likely to meet other vehicles? You could quite happily drive around without lights and see just as far as you could with them. Being seen without lights is another matter though and I'm not suggesting this as good practice at all. But on unlit roads? Tony |
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Cyclists are a Perverted Pestulance [Times Article 18/02]
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:44:52 +0000 (UTC), "PK"
wrote in message : the article, in case the red mist that came before your eyes obscured your view of it, was primarily about the actions of a secetion of the cycling community who DO put PEDESTRIANS at risk by their unreasonable behaviour. And there was I thinking it was about a careless driver trying to divert attention from his own offences by reference to someone else's. Vent your spleen by all means, but 'tis best directed at the tw*ts on bikes who I regularly come across as either pedestrian or cyclist. Hmmm. You do know, don't you, that you are about two hundred times more likely to be killed by a motor driver on the pavement than a cyclist? Guy === May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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Cyclists are a Perverted Pestulance [Times Article 18/02]
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 01:00:18 -0000 someone who may be "Patrick"
wrote this:- There are good and bad cyclists, and good and bad drivers - it's just that the bad driver make more of a mess.... Bad drivers kill and injure more pedestrians than bad cyclists. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000. |
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Cyclists are a Perverted Pestulance [Times Article 18/02]
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:53:50 -0000 someone who may be "Thomas Buck"
La de la de la wrote this:- immigrants. Why limit yourself to illegal ones? Hehehe, it's always a fun argument to have in the pub: "What do you mean you're an immigrant with that posh an accent?" Agreed. Sometimes people rant about "foreigners" coming to this country, in the mistaken impression that being "white" means I was born here. These idiots have difficulty in grasping that most people of Asian, Caribbean and African extraction were born here and are far more British than I am. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000. |
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Cyclists are a Perverted Pestulance [Times Article 18/02]
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:49:10 -0000, "Tony Raven"
wrote in message : These are the reasons why one should drive drive so one can stop "well within the distance you can see to be clear" (Highway Code). I've been thinking about that Guy and assume you must rarely drive above 20mph after dark based on the average throw of a dipped car headlight. Is this true? On dips, about 45mph according to my calculations - and no, I don't go faster than that on dips on unlit roads (and often slower). I think I'm OK because I managed to check the mirrors and stop in time when a badger crossed the other day. On street-lit roads you can see further of course. I am reminded of the letter my father received from the insurers of one P Chidzhey, the side of whose Cortina made some interesting modifications to the front of our old Mini van when I were a lad. It contained the above quote form the HC. Aged P wrote back saying that he was well aware of this section, being a member of RoSPA and the City Road Safety Committee, but he was pretty confident that it was not referring to situations where the other vehicle was in a different lane and lost control while trying to overtake on the inside on a sharp bend on a wet road, especially where the above vehicle having run off the road then achieved some traction and crossed all the carriageways at speed before coming to rest against the crash barrier, blocking one carriageway, to the detriment of its front end... A cheque was forthcoming. Guy === May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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Cyclists are a Perverted Pestulance [Times Article 18/02]
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:45:01 +0000, David Hansen
wrote in message : Sometimes people rant about "foreigners" coming to this country I think we should repatriate Michael Howard's family retrospectively... Guy === May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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Cyclists are a Perverted Pestulance [Times Article 18/02]
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
On dips, about 45mph according to my calculations - and no, I don't go faster than that on dips on unlit roads (and often slower). I think I'm OK because I managed to check the mirrors and stop in time when a badger crossed the other day. At 45mph that's about 50m or 11 car lengths stopping distance according to the Highway Code. I reckon my dipped beams and those of most of the cars I've looked at are about a third of that, although theoretically up to 50m could be allowable for a Volvo under the RVLR 1989. Must be the weight of all those bikes in the back of the Volvo that gives you a 50m dipped beam ;-) Tony |
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Cyclists are a Perverted Pestulance [Times Article 18/02]
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:45:01 +0000, David Hansen wrote in message : Sometimes people rant about "foreigners" coming to this country I think we should repatriate Michael Howard's family retrospectively... Why his family and not him? What did they do to deserve deportation - we can't choose our relatives (spouse and their family apart) ;-) Tony |
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Cyclists are a Perverted Pestulance [Times Article 18/02]
"Tony Raven" wrote in news:c175to$1f660f$1@ID-
178940.news.uni-berlin.de: But on unlit roads? On unlit roads, you can often see further without lights (depending on the weather). With lights you can usually see only what is within the cone of light with maybe a little more outside this if it emits it's own light or is lit by some other source. I don't know what it is like now, but about 15 years ago in China most motorised traffic drove around with only side lights on at night so that cyclists could see them coming some way off without being dazzled. They apparently managed quite well. What it is like now I don't know, given all the reports of the cycle to motorised vehicle ratio being almost totally reversed in some areas. But yes, as we're expected to drive around with lights on, unless something else has another light source, you're right about only really being able to see within the cone of light. NOw, I'm off to do some more work on my DIY 2x20W halogen bike lights :- Graeme |
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