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Old December 11th 16, 01:55 PM posted to uk.rec.driving,uk.rec.cycling
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Default The relative unimportance that speeding plays in road accidents

Unexpected findings emerged, not least the relative unimportance that
speeding plays in road accidents that kill six people each day in the
UK, leave 68 others seriously hurt and 535 with less serious injuries.

"It has been an eye-opener," says project manager Neil Greig, of the
IAM. "Not just in terms of what causes an accident but in terms of
dispelling some of the popular myths. For instance, if you look at
Government campaigns they seem to say that speed is the number one
problem. But illegal speeding – when drivers exceed the posted limit –
accounts for only 13.9 per cent of fatal accidents. A bigger cause [15.9
per cent] is going too fast for the conditions – entering a bend too
quickly, for instance – when you might well be under the actual speed
limit."

But the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK today? The statistics
are quite clear on this and it's "driver error or reaction". It's listed
by police as a factor in more than 65 per cent of fatal crashes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...ts-happen.html
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Old December 11th 16, 02:46 PM posted to uk.rec.driving,uk.rec.cycling
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Default The relative unimportance that speeding plays in road accidents

On 11/12/2016 12:55, Bod wrote:
Unexpected findings emerged, not least the relative unimportance that
speeding plays in road accidents that kill six people each day in the
UK, leave 68 others seriously hurt and 535 with less serious injuries.

"It has been an eye-opener," says project manager Neil Greig, of the
IAM. "Not just in terms of what causes an accident but in terms of
dispelling some of the popular myths. For instance, if you look at
Government campaigns they seem to say that speed is the number one
problem. But illegal speeding – when drivers exceed the posted limit –
accounts for only 13.9 per cent of fatal accidents. A bigger cause [15.9
per cent] is going too fast for the conditions – entering a bend too
quickly, for instance – when you might well be under the actual speed
limit."

But the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK today? The statistics
are quite clear on this and it's "driver error or reaction". It's listed
by police as a factor in more than 65 per cent of fatal crashes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...ts-happen.html


Yes an eye opener as to what the police and IAM think causes fatal
accidents. Of course both are car orientated groups.

What we should be interested in, is what policies reduce accidents and
allow other road users (particularly non motorists) to feel safer and
hence encouraged to use the roads.

That and the obvious major health benefit one that everyone knows is
true, banning diesel engines.
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Old December 11th 16, 04:22 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default The relative unimportance that speeding plays in road accidents

On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 12:55:37 PM UTC, Bod wrote:
Unexpected findings emerged, not least the relative unimportance that
speeding plays in road accidents that kill six people each day in the
UK, leave 68 others seriously hurt and 535 with less serious injuries.

"It has been an eye-opener," says project manager Neil Greig, of the
IAM.


Enough said.

The IAM is not an authority on the subject, it has no legal status.
It is a private car spotters club.

You might as well seek 'knowledge' from the Apologists for Bad Driving.

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Old December 11th 16, 05:29 PM posted to uk.rec.driving,uk.rec.cycling
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Default The relative unimportance that speeding plays in road accidents

On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 13:46:16 -0000, Nick wrote:

On 11/12/2016 12:55, Bod wrote:
Unexpected findings emerged, not least the relative unimportance that
speeding plays in road accidents that kill six people each day in the
UK, leave 68 others seriously hurt and 535 with less serious injuries..

"It has been an eye-opener," says project manager Neil Greig, of the
IAM. "Not just in terms of what causes an accident but in terms of
dispelling some of the popular myths. For instance, if you look at
Government campaigns they seem to say that speed is the number one
problem. But illegal speeding – when drivers exceed the posted limit –
accounts for only 13.9 per cent of fatal accidents. A bigger cause [15.9
per cent] is going too fast for the conditions – entering a bend too
quickly, for instance – when you might well be under the actual speed
limit."

But the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK today? The statistics
are quite clear on this and it's "driver error or reaction". It's listed
by police as a factor in more than 65 per cent of fatal crashes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...ts-happen.html


Yes an eye opener as to what the police and IAM think causes fatal
accidents. Of course both are car orientated groups.

What we should be interested in, is what policies reduce accidents and
allow other road users (particularly non motorists) to feel safer and
hence encouraged to use the roads.

That and the obvious major health benefit one that everyone knows is
true, banning diesel engines.


Don't be stupid.

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Old December 11th 16, 05:30 PM posted to uk.rec.driving,uk.rec.cycling
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Default The relative unimportance that speeding plays in road accidents

On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 12:55:35 -0000, Bod wrote:

Unexpected findings emerged, not least the relative unimportance that
speeding plays in road accidents that kill six people each day in the
UK, leave 68 others seriously hurt and 535 with less serious injuries.

"It has been an eye-opener," says project manager Neil Greig, of the
IAM. "Not just in terms of what causes an accident but in terms of
dispelling some of the popular myths. For instance, if you look at
Government campaigns they seem to say that speed is the number one
problem. But illegal speeding – when drivers exceed the posted limit –
accounts for only 13.9 per cent of fatal accidents. A bigger cause [15..9
per cent] is going too fast for the conditions – entering a bend too
quickly, for instance – when you might well be under the actual speed
limit."

But the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK today? The statistics
are quite clear on this and it's "driver error or reaction". It's listed
by police as a factor in more than 65 per cent of fatal crashes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...ts-happen.html


It's only an eye opener to ****wits like the IAM.

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Old December 11th 16, 05:38 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default The relative unimportance that speeding plays in road accidents

On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 1:46:16 PM UTC, Nick wrote:
On 11/12/2016 12:55, Bod wrote:
Unexpected findings emerged, not least the relative unimportance that
speeding plays in road accidents that kill six people each day in the
UK, leave 68 others seriously hurt and 535 with less serious injuries.

"It has been an eye-opener," says project manager Neil Greig, of the
IAM. "Not just in terms of what causes an accident but in terms of
dispelling some of the popular myths. For instance, if you look at
Government campaigns they seem to say that speed is the number one
problem. But illegal speeding – when drivers exceed the posted limit –
accounts for only 13.9 per cent of fatal accidents. A bigger cause [15.9
per cent] is going too fast for the conditions – entering a bend too
quickly, for instance – when you might well be under the actual speed
limit."

But the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK today? The statistics
are quite clear on this and it's "driver error or reaction". It's listed
by police as a factor in more than 65 per cent of fatal crashes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...ts-happen.html


Yes an eye opener as to what the police and IAM think causes fatal
accidents. Of course both are car orientated groups.

What we should be interested in, is what policies reduce accidents and
allow other road users (particularly non motorists) to feel safer and
hence encouraged to use the roads.

That and the obvious major health benefit one that everyone knows is
true, banning diesel engines.


As Mayer Hillman said
'Saying Britain's roads are getting safer is like saying a shark infested river is safe because people choose not to swim in it.'
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Old December 11th 16, 05:58 PM posted to uk.rec.driving,uk.rec.cycling,alt.home.repair
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Default BUCK TEETH IN THE UK: The relative unimportance that speeding playsin road accidents

On 12/11/2016 4:55 AM, Bod wrote:
Unexpected findings emerged, not least the relative unimportance that
speeding plays in road accidents that kill six people each day in the
UK, leave 68 others seriously hurt and 535 with less serious injuries.

"It has been an eye-opener," says project manager Neil Greig, of the
IAM. "Not just in terms of what causes an accident but in terms of
dispelling some of the popular myths. For instance, if you look at
Government campaigns they seem to say that speed is the number one
problem. But illegal speeding – when drivers exceed the posted limit –
accounts for only 13.9 per cent of fatal accidents. A bigger cause [15.9
per cent] is going too fast for the conditions – entering a bend too
quickly, for instance – when you might well be under the actual speed
limit."

But the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK today? The statistics
are quite clear on this and it's "driver error or reaction". It's listed
by police as a factor in more than 65 per cent of fatal crashes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...ts-happen.html


Speed is directly related to traffic accidents.
The fact that some bucky-toofed "research" in the UK suggests otherwise
is probably cause to suspect that so-called research.

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Old December 11th 16, 06:56 PM posted to uk.rec.driving,uk.rec.cycling
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Default The relative unimportance that speeding plays in road accidents

On 11/12/2016 13:46, Nick wrote:

On 11/12/2016 12:55, Bod wrote:


Unexpected findings emerged, not least the relative unimportance that
speeding plays in road accidents that kill six people each day in the
UK, leave 68 others seriously hurt and 535 with less serious injuries.


"It has been an eye-opener," says project manager Neil Greig, of the
IAM. "Not just in terms of what causes an accident but in terms of
dispelling some of the popular myths. For instance, if you look at
Government campaigns they seem to say that speed is the number one
problem. But illegal speeding – when drivers exceed the posted limit –
accounts for only 13.9 per cent of fatal accidents. A bigger cause [15.9
per cent] is going too fast for the conditions – entering a bend too
quickly, for instance – when you might well be under the actual speed
limit."


But the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK today? The statistics
are quite clear on this and it's "driver error or reaction". It's listed
by police as a factor in more than 65 per cent of fatal crashes.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...ts-happen.html


Yes an eye opener as to what the police and IAM think causes fatal
accidents. Of course both are car orientated groups.


That's a departure, because posters here in the past have been eager to
cite what the police judge to be the greater and lesser causes of
traffic accidents.

Perhaps, like of a lot of cources for statistice, they're only of any
value when they say what you wanted them to say?

Just a suggestion.

What we should be interested in, is what policies reduce accidents and
allow other road users (particularly non motorists) to feel safer and
hence encouraged to use the roads.

That and the obvious major health benefit one that everyone knows is
true, banning diesel engines.


What should be done with all that unused diesel (around 25% - 30% of the
average crude oil by volume, IIRC)?
 




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