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Old December 2nd 19, 09:15 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bod[_5_]
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Default What is the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK?


The most common cause of accidents is to driver error. Over 100,000
(108,479) crashes occured in the UK due to cars suddenly braking,
drivers failing to look properly, poor car maneuvering and/or loss of
control.2 Jul 2018
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Old December 2nd 19, 09:19 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.transport,uk.rec.driving
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Default What is the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK?

On 02/12/2019 20:15, Bod wrote:

The most common cause of accidents is to driver error. Over 100,000
(108,479) crashes occured in the UK due to cars suddenly braking,
drivers failing to look properly, poor car maneuvering and/or loss of
control.2 Jul 2018


How interesting.

What does it have to do with cycling?
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Old December 2nd 19, 09:22 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 8:15:38 PM UTC, Bod wrote:
The most common cause of accidents is to driver error. Over 100,000
(108,479) crashes occured in the UK due to cars suddenly braking,
drivers failing to look properly, poor car maneuvering and/or loss of
control.2 Jul 2018
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Not to mention driving on the footway and jumping red lights.
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Old December 2nd 19, 09:25 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.transport,uk.rec.driving
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On 02/12/2019 20:19, JNugent wrote:
On 02/12/2019 20:15, Bod wrote:

The most common cause of accidents is to driver error. Over 100,000
(108,479) crashes occured in the UK due to cars suddenly braking,
drivers failing to look properly, poor car maneuvering and/or loss of
control.2 Jul 2018


How interesting.

What does it have to do with cycling?

Cyclists cause a fraction of that amount of accidents.

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Old December 2nd 19, 09:31 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.transport,uk.rec.driving
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Default What is the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK?

On 02/12/2019 20:25, Bod wrote:

On 02/12/2019 20:19, JNugent wrote:
On 02/12/2019 20:15, Bod wrote:


The most common cause of accidents is to driver error. Over 100,000
(108,479) crashes occured in the UK due to cars suddenly braking,
drivers failing to look properly, poor car maneuvering and/or loss of
control.2 Jul 2018


How interesting.

What does it have to do with cycling?

Cyclists cause a fraction of that amount of accidents.


You have no idea of the number of accidents in which cyclists are
involved (as cyclists).
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Old December 3rd 19, 09:22 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default What is the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK?

On 03/12/2019 00:54, JNugent wrote:
On 02/12/2019 21:03, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/12/2019 20:57, JNugent wrote:
On 02/12/2019 20:37, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/12/2019 20:25, Bod wrote:
On 02/12/2019 20:19, JNugent wrote:
On 02/12/2019 20:15, Bod wrote:

The most common cause of accidents is to driver error. Over
100,000 (108,479) crashes occured in the UK due to cars suddenly
braking, drivers failing to look properly, poor car maneuvering
and/or loss of control.2 Jul 2018

How interesting.

What does it have to do with cycling?

Cyclists cause a fraction of that amount of accidents.

It's to show to drivers that tell cyclists what to do that they
should shut up and mind their own business.

(I have deleted the x-posting that Nugent added.)

Why?


It's not relevant there.


....and I am allowed to.

(I have deleted the x-posting that you put back in.)

Advice to drivers (by cyclists, of all people) is *highly* relevant
there, and not relevant at all in uk.rec.cycling.


There are no drivers there that blame cyclists for everything.
If you want to give advice to drivers, they're the places to do it.


This is the place where drivers need to be told to mind their own
business.


That's your view.


It is. And pleased that it upsets you.
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Old December 3rd 19, 10:28 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.transport,uk.rec.driving
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Default What is the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK?

"JNugent" wrote in message
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On 02/12/2019 20:25, Bod wrote:

On 02/12/2019 20:19, JNugent wrote:
On 02/12/2019 20:15, Bod wrote:


The most common cause of accidents is to driver error. Over 100,000
(108,479) crashes occured in the UK due to cars suddenly braking,
drivers failing to look properly, poor car maneuvering and/or loss of
control.2 Jul 2018

How interesting.

What does it have to do with cycling?

Cyclists cause a fraction of that amount of accidents.


You have no idea of the number of accidents in which cyclists are involved
(as cyclists).


There are far more powered vehicles on the road than bicycles on the road
(apart from in large towns, maybe) and they go faster so can cause more
damage if things go wrong. So it is hardly surprising that they will be the
cause of more accidents.

But cyclists are not *always* blameless. Consider a cyclist who rides
through a red traffic light into the path of other traffic, or who pulls out
of a side road. Other traffic brakes hard to avoid hitting him; maybe one of
them skids and hits other vehicles/pedestrians, or is rear-ended. The
cyclist is not hit, and continues unaffected. Is that cyclist blameless? Now
consider the same situation where it was a car, not a cyclist, who went
through a red light or pulled out of a side road; is that car driver
blameless? In my mind, both a blameworthy to the same extent, but there is a
philosophy that accidents are always "not the cyclist's fault".

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Old December 3rd 19, 10:33 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.transport,uk.rec.driving
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On 03/12/2019 09:25, Bod wrote:
On 02/12/2019 20:19, JNugent wrote:
On 02/12/2019 20:15, Bod wrote:

The most common cause of accidents is to driver error. Over 100,000
(108,479) crashes occured in the UK due to cars suddenly braking,
drivers failing to look properly, poor car maneuvering and/or loss of
control.2 Jul 2018


How interesting.

What does it have to do with cycling?

Cyclists cause a fraction of that amount of accidents.


Bicyclists are also a fraction of the numbers of car drivers.
Sadly.
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Old December 3rd 19, 10:59 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.transport,uk.rec.driving
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Default What is the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK?

On 03/12/2019 09:33, Peter Keller wrote:
On 03/12/2019 09:25, Bod wrote:
On 02/12/2019 20:19, JNugent wrote:
On 02/12/2019 20:15, Bod wrote:

The most common cause of accidents is to driver error. Over 100,000
(108,479) crashes occured in the UK due to cars suddenly braking,
drivers failing to look properly, poor car maneuvering and/or loss of
control.2 Jul 2018

How interesting.

What does it have to do with cycling?

Cyclists cause a fraction of that amount of accidents.


Bicyclists are also a fraction of the numbers of car drivers.
Sadly.


In terms of casualties per billion miles travelled, at 5,604, they are
only second to motorcyclists at 6,043. Other figures are pedestrians
1,801, cars 238, buses 198, vans 62 and LGVs 61. (2017 figures)

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Old December 3rd 19, 12:52 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.transport,uk.rec.driving
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Default What is the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK?

On 03/12/2019 09:28, NY wrote:

There are far more powered vehicles on the road than bicycles on the
road (apart from in large towns, maybe)


School maths can adjust things by proportion.

and they go faster so can cause more damage if things go wrong. So it
is hardly surprising that they will be the cause of more accidents.


That's true. Is it supposed to be a get out of jail free card?

The problem we have is of finger pointing at cyclists by drivers that
have over inflated ideas about their driving ability.
 




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