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Hypocrite Vandeman criticizes those who follow his preachings!!!!!
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:54:27 -0700, "chasw"
wrote: A true fanatic, his tirade against bicycles I'm not against bicycles, liar. I'm against the inappropriate use of bikes to destroy wildlife and wildlife habitat. DUH! is mere self gratification. Winning is not his objective, too messy and full of compromise. Instead, he firmly believes he's on the side of good, fighting against bad MTBers and their evil machines. snip He has no sense of pragmatism, which works a lot better than stubborn idealism in the real world. He could win the war, but it might mean he'd have to give up a battle or two, and in his mind that just doesn't add up. snip -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Hypocrite Vandeman criticizes those who follow his preachings!!!!!
Mike Vandeman wrote in
: On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:54:27 -0700, "chasw" wrote: A true fanatic, his tirade against bicycles I'm not against bicycles, liar. I'm against the inappropriate use of bikes to destroy wildlife and wildlife habitat. DUH! is mere self gratification. Winning is not his objective, too messy and full of compromise. Instead, he firmly believes he's on the side of good, fighting against bad MTBers and their evil machines. snip He has no sense of pragmatism, which works a lot better than stubborn idealism in the real world. He could win the war, but it might mean he'd have to give up a battle or two, and in his mind that just doesn't add up. snip Another sparkling example of van-DUH-man's extraordinary debating technique. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Irrelevant Vanderschmuck misses the point!!!!! Again!!!!!!!!
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... Hmmm. No mention of the MULTI-LANE FREEWAY rigth above them. In denial? The space is "wasted" because of people like you, who insist on driving motor vehicles. Or do you BIKE to all of your trails? ... Do you really need to smacked across the head with a dead fish? EVERYBODY DRIVES YOU PATHETIC FOOL!!!! People like me apparently is everyone who isn't you. We all drive ..... as you rant. ( A great visual) |
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Irrelevant Vanderschmuck misses the point!!!!! Again!!!!!!!!
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:10:47 GMT, "JP" wrote:
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... Hmmm. No mention of the MULTI-LANE FREEWAY rigth above them. In denial? The space is "wasted" because of people like you, who insist on driving motor vehicles. Or do you BIKE to all of your trails? ... Do you really need to smacked across the head with a dead fish? EVERYBODY DRIVES YOU PATHETIC FOOL!!!! People like me apparently is everyone who isn't you. We all drive ..... as you rant. ( A great visual) Thanks for admitting it. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Mountain Bikers Are Happy to Ride Amidst Extreme Air Pollution!
On Sep 9, 11:25 pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
Evolution in action! This is a good indication that mountain bikers are, let's say, a bit SLOW! http://picasaweb.google.com/valvefac...ay/photo#51083... -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande Wow....after all this time Vandeman is still ranting... -teamsimpson |
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Mountain Bikers Are Happy to Ride Amidst Extreme Air Pollution!
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:36:50 -0000, teamsimpson
wrote: On Sep 9, 11:25 pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: Evolution in action! This is a good indication that mountain bikers are, let's say, a bit SLOW! http://picasaweb.google.com/valvefac...ay/photo#51083... -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande Wow....after all this time Vandeman is still ranting... You obviously can't tell a rant from a pearl of wisdom. -teamsimpson -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Hypocrite Vandeman criticizes those who follow his preachings!!!!!
On Sep 13, 11:23 am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:54:27 -0700, "chasw" wrote: I'm not against bicycles, liar. I'm against the inappropriate use of bikes to destroy wildlife and wildlife habitat. DUH! ... So are you saying the bike track under the freeway is an inappropriate use of bikes that will destroy wildlife and wildlife habitat? Am I missing your point? Also a question: Wouldn't the drivers up on the freeway be exposed to more polution than the riders below? Surely, assuming there's a slight breeze blowing (and assuming it's not blowing vertically downwards), the track 100 foot below the freeway would be relatively polution free. |
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Hypocrite Vandeman criticizes those who follow his preachings!!!!!
On Sep 18, 12:17 pm, Jon_C wrote:
On Sep 13, 11:23 am, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:54:27 -0700, "chasw" wrote: I'm not against bicycles, liar. I'm against the inappropriate use of bikes to destroy wildlife and wildlife habitat. DUH! ... So are you saying the bike track under the freeway is an inappropriate use of bikes that will destroy wildlife and wildlife habitat? Am I missing your point? Mike is opposed to using bikes for anythnig but plodding along down congested city streets. Only boring utilitarianism is permitted. Also a question: Wouldn't the drivers up on the freeway be exposed to more polution than the riders below? Surely, assuming there's a slight breeze blowing (and assuming it's not blowing vertically downwards), the track 100 foot below the freeway would be relatively polution free. Under stagnant inversion conditions, pollution will likely accumulate under the freeway; otherwise, yes, a breeze will blow it away. Of course, Mike advocates riding one's bike only in the city on pavement anyway (he is bound and determined that nobody should have any real enjoyment on a bike), and frankly, you'll get just as much pollution there as you will get under the freeway (an air quality specialist, which I have been in the past, can fill you in on the technical details). Beyond this, Jon, I *guarantee* that he will find a lame way to illogically refute what you've said here (Gaussian distributions be damned!) and further alienate people in the process. Resistance is futile! It is best to ignore him. Bruce Jensen |
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Hypocrite Vandeman criticizes those who follow his preachings!!!!!
Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:40:54 GMT, "JP" wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... Then show me how it's done, sidewalk superintendent. The fact is, you don't have a clue how to deal successfully with the mountain biking problem. You see, that's your problem, defining the hypothesis. There Is No Mountain Biking Problem. There is Global warming, Slash and burn agriculture, the changing of the PH of the oceans, Pipelines built on permafrost that is no longer permafrost, All kinds of Toxic Residue from Industrial Activities, destruction of tidelands and estuaries. The consequences of rotating tires in the wilderness powered by muscle alone doesn't even make the first thousand on the environmental problem list, nor the first ten thousand. The problem doesn't exist. I suppose that makes you irrelevant. If that were true, mountain bikers wouldn't be working overtime to lobby and create bogus "scientific studies" to prove it. Where there's smoke, there's fire. Yawn. If the smoke is crying wolf about an effectively irrelevant environmental issue, and the fire is junk science, your paranoid delusions, illusions of grandeur, and hypocrisy, and an inability to understand the phrase "order of magnitude", then you are correct. |
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Hypocrite Vandeman criticizes those who follow his preachings!!!!!
On Sep 18, 1:11 pm, cc wrote:
Mike Vandeman wrote: On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:40:54 GMT, "JP" wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message . .. Then show me how it's done, sidewalk superintendent. The fact is, you don't have a clue how to deal successfully with the mountain biking problem. You see, that's your problem, defining the hypothesis. There Is No Mountain Biking Problem. There is Global warming, Slash and burn agriculture, the changing of the PH of the oceans, Pipelines built on permafrost that is no longer permafrost, All kinds of Toxic Residue from Industrial Activities, destruction of tidelands and estuaries. The consequences of rotating tires in the wilderness powered by muscle alone doesn't even make the first thousand on the environmental problem list, nor the first ten thousand. The problem doesn't exist. I suppose that makes you irrelevant. If that were true, mountain bikers wouldn't be working overtime to lobby and create bogus "scientific studies" to prove it. Where there's smoke, there's fire. Yawn. If the smoke is crying wolf about an effectively irrelevant environmental issue, and the fire is junk science, your paranoid delusions, illusions of grandeur, and hypocrisy, and an inability to understand the phrase "order of magnitude", then you are correct.- Hide quoted text - Oh, he understands "order of magnitude" just fine. However, Mike has stated more than once that the big things will "take care of themselves." It is his way of avoiding having to deal with them so he can focus on his pet peeve. Bruce Jensen |
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