when-a-bike-is-not-a-bike [sic]

On 2016-10-03 06:31, Doc O'Leary wrote:
For your reference, records indicate that
Radey Shouman wrote:

I thought that had already been covered:

http://www.bikeforest.com/tread/index.php

It’s gotten to the point where I don’t even know if these sorts
of things are real, or just elaborate jokes.


They are real alright. I have met almost a dozen people on "rolling
ellipticals. One of the guys have been super-fit because he had no
problem going up a hill the same speed I did on my road bike (though I
had almost 40mi behind me at that point). The sound of those things is
awful, like a big old whipsaw .. PHHHSHRATT .. PHHHSHRATT ...

One rider let me and my MTB buddy try out his rolling elliptical. Let's
just say it must be an aquired taste. Not my cup of tea. This guy was
very lucky because I mentioned that it felt wobbly. "Nah, you just
aren't used to this" ... "But look at those loose axle bolts up front"
.... "Oh S..T!" ... I got out my tool kit and we fixed it.

The other issue on the versions with two front wheels is the constant
swerving motion. It's low amplitude so won't bother riders who are
passing but according to one couple with ellipticals their front tires
don't even last 1000mi.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 2016-10-03 10:20, Radey Shouman wrote:
Doc O'Leary writes:

For your reference, records indicate that
Radey Shouman wrote:

I thought that had already been covered:

http://www.bikeforest.com/tread/index.php

It’s gotten to the point where I don’t even know if these sorts
of things are real, or just elaborate jokes.

I have that problem with The Onion -- most of their headlines are no
more bizarre than those of the other news outlets. But I'm reasonably
certain the bike treadmill is an elaborate joke.


You can buy E-Bike versions:

https://lopifit.com/nl/winkel/
https://www.lopifitus.com/

Without electric assist you'd probably be the slowpoke of the day on a
bike trail because the efficiency must be really low.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 10/3/2016 9:35 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2016-10-02 13:41, DougC wrote:
On 10/1/2016 5:13 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2016-10-01 13:50, W. Wesley Groleau wrote:
http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/whe...health-device/





Quote "Why are people inactive, especially when they have diabetes and
know how much physical activity could benefit them?"

The answer for many of them was unbelievable to me at first but I've
heard it so many times that I believe them now: "Nah, that's too much, I
don't feel like exercising". IOW they rather pop a pill instead.

Yea, but somebody who broke their leg yesterday probably doesn't want to
go jogging this morning either.


That's 0.00001% or whatever. All the others are plain lazy and
sedentary. My wife and I visit nursing homes a lot and we see the end
result of that, such as morbid obesity that at some point sort of goes
out of control.


That sounds like a convenient way to explain a problem that you think
you are "too smart" to have.

Ponder this for a moment: obesity is the last disease that is still
acceptable to blame on the patient. For everything else, the common
person assumes nowadays that there is an underlying medical cause that
must be addressed. Do you find that odd?

On 2016-10-03 12:51, DougC wrote:
On 10/3/2016 9:35 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2016-10-02 13:41, DougC wrote:
On 10/1/2016 5:13 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2016-10-01 13:50, W. Wesley Groleau wrote:
http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/whe...health-device/






Quote "Why are people inactive, especially when they have diabetes and
know how much physical activity could benefit them?"

The answer for many of them was unbelievable to me at first but I've
heard it so many times that I believe them now: "Nah, that's too
much, I
don't feel like exercising". IOW they rather pop a pill instead.

Yea, but somebody who broke their leg yesterday probably doesn't want to
go jogging this morning either.


That's 0.00001% or whatever. All the others are plain lazy and
sedentary. My wife and I visit nursing homes a lot and we see the end
result of that, such as morbid obesity that at some point sort of goes
out of control.


That sounds like a convenient way to explain a problem that you think
you are "too smart" to have.


Most of us have health problems or risks we could avoid. Also, in all
fairness one has to exclude people who can't exercise for other medical
reasons.


Ponder this for a moment: obesity is the last disease that is still
acceptable to blame on the patient. For everything else, the common
person assumes nowadays that there is an underlying medical cause that
must be addressed. Do you find that odd?


It isn't the case. If the chain-smoking guy down the street with a
permanent hacking cough is finally diagnosed with lung cancer it is also
he himself who caused it. Trying to find a medical cause to whitewash
oneself or another person is generally not going to stick (but there are
exceptions, of course)

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Mon, 03 Oct 2016 13:20:40 -0400, Radey Shouman
wrote:

http://www.bikeforest.com/tread/index.php

[snip]

I have that problem with The Onion -- most of their headlines are no
more bizarre than those of the other news outlets. But I'm reasonably
certain the bike treadmill is an elaborate joke.

Nah. Any competent joke writer would have iced the cake by including
an optional trailer to carry the ice cream you were urged to buy.

On the other hand, the footnote "the variable resistance feature is
not yet available" is a humorous touch.

Not to mention that "buy now" takes you to a page selling the program
used to design the thing.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

Joerg writes:

On 2016-10-03 06:31, Doc O'Leary wrote:
For your reference, records indicate that
Radey Shouman wrote:

I thought that had already been covered:

http://www.bikeforest.com/tread/index.php

It’s gotten to the point where I don’t even know if these sorts
of things are real, or just elaborate jokes.


They are real alright. I have met almost a dozen people on "rolling
ellipticals. One of the guys have been super-fit because he had no
problem going up a hill the same speed I did on my road bike (though I
had almost 40mi behind me at that point). The sound of those things is
awful, like a big old whipsaw .. PHHHSHRATT .. PHHHSHRATT ...

We have one of those in my neighborhood, but it's not quiiite as nuts as
the bicycle treadmill in the video. It's a thin line, I know.

--

Joy Beeson writes:

On Mon, 03 Oct 2016 13:20:40 -0400, Radey Shouman
wrote:

http://www.bikeforest.com/tread/index.php

[snip]

I have that problem with The Onion -- most of their headlines are no
more bizarre than those of the other news outlets. But I'm reasonably
certain the bike treadmill is an elaborate joke.

Nah. Any competent joke writer would have iced the cake by including
an optional trailer to carry the ice cream you were urged to buy.

On the other hand, the footnote "the variable resistance feature is
not yet available" is a humorous touch.

Not to mention that "buy now" takes you to a page selling the program
used to design the thing.

Some of the other "projects" are entertaining as well.

--

On Mon, 03 Oct 2016 09:55:44 +0700, John B.
wrote:

Somehow I thought that was the norm. A little nap after lunch :-)

This was after dinner. It was Friday evening and I was celebrating
(by myself) having completed a rather messy computer upgrade. I do
tend to get sleepy after stuffing my face, but didn't expect to do
much more than collapse after dinner when I returned to my palatial
office to unload the junk from the Subaru. However, I got a call from
my neighbor asking for immediate financial assistance so he could have
his gas hog SUV towed from downtown Santa Cruz. I logically deduced
that trying to find a parking place in downtown Santa Cruz on a Friday
evening offered equal odds to winning the lottery, so I decided to
make the 1.5 mile ride on my bicycle.

I inflated the tires (they leak), grabbed some cash, checked the
lighting (batteries were discharged), and took off forgetting my
helmet. About half way there, I started to experience chest pains
(angina). I slowed down which didn't help much. I walked the rest of
the way. When I arrived, I had to take a nitroglycerine pill. The
pain went away instantly. After paying the tow truck, I tried to ride
the bicycle back to my palatial office, but gave up after the chest
pains returned. Another nitro pill temporarily solved that problem. I
made it back to the office, collapsed in a chair, pondered my fate,
and fell asleep for about 2 hrs. When I awoke, I was fine.

I never did find my bicycle helmet and had to buy a new one.

If they are "cartridge" bearings, with a identification number, than
your local bearing shop should have them

The local bearing supplier (Motion Industries) closed many years ago.
I now buy such things online from various resellers.
http://www.mscdirect.com/products/bearings?rdrct=bearing
If I can identify it, I can usually find it. I'm currently trying to
find replacement spindle bearings that can handle side thrust to
convert a drill press into a crude mill.

Remember Jim Fixx, the guru of jogging? He died at 53 from a heart attack.

He had a family history of heart problems and apparently refused
medical treatment. He might have lived longer if he had been taking
some of the drugs that we're both complaining about. Unfortunately,
most of them did not exist 40 years ago. It's also difficult to fight
heredity.

There is/was a Texas heart clinic, Cooper Aerobics Center in Dallas,
that was very active in studying and testing runners, that had been
after Fixx for some time to do an endurance test but he had either
refused or didn't have the time for it.

He mostly claimed he was too busy, which was largely true. He knew he
had a problem, and did a good job of hiding it.

They wrote, after the autopsy
that had Fixx lain down with his feet and legs elevated he might not
have had the heart attack, or at least might not have died from it.

Maybe, but I doubt it. The heart is fighting gravity trying to pump
blood uphill and laying down makes it easier on the heart. However,
when the heart is trying to pump blood through a constricted orifice,
I doubt if reducing the back pressure will be enough to save his life.

There are different types of plaque that clog the arteries, which vary
in density. Expanding the blood vessels with a vasodilator would
certainly have increased blood flow, but since he was apparently not
taking any drugs, that was probably not an option. The soft stuff
tends to flake off and create a "plug" followed by a heart attack or
stroke. The hard stuff just sits there and reduces blood flow. I
have the latter problem. When the stents were installed, one artery
had to have the plaque removed with a drill of some sorts. I'm told
this is not standard procedure and rather risky. My cardiologist
assured me that I would be dead if he had not done it.

The cardiologist explained some of this to me with this diagram about
an hour before throwing me out of the hospital:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/stent-01.jpg
I'm still trying to decode it.

The autopsy revealed that atherosclerosis had blocked one coronary
artery 95%, a second 85%, and a third 70%.

No real clue where Jim Fixx fits into this, but my guess(tm) is that
he had the rock hard variety, which is the result of many years of
plaque accumulation. With those numbers, nothing short of a bypass
operation would have saved him.

Also, in 2002, I started feeling chest pains when my blockage numbers
were similar to Fixx's. I would expect him to also have at least felt
some discomfort or pain on exertion. I would be surprised if he
pushed himself despite the pain, which does go away rather quickly
when one slows down. It's much like continuing to use a noisy
machine, ignoring the noises until something fails and it falls apart.



--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

The cardiologist explained some of this to me with this diagram about
an hour before throwing me out of the hospital:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/stent-01.jpg
I'm still trying to decode it.

Those are your arteries? Honestly, Bro, it looks more like a sketch of a bike frame ...

On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 11:38:04 -0700 (PDT), Doug Landau
wrote:


The cardiologist explained some of this to me with this diagram about
an hour before throwing me out of the hospital:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/stent-01.jpg
I'm still trying to decode it.

Those are your arteries?

I think so, but it's difficult to tell from the drawing. You've
probably seen a doctors signature or prescription hand-scribbling.
Well, now you see how well they can draw. Admittedly, he was in a
hurry, but then doctors are always in a hurry.

Honestly, Bro, it looks more like a sketch of a bike frame ...

I have the same problem trying to identify what passing clouds
resemble. Anyway, this might help turn a bad bicycle frame design,
into a more readable bad bicycle frame design:
https://www.bikecad.ca

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558