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  #121  
Old October 6th 17, 04:08 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 16:55:07 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-10-04 17:42, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 10:29:08 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-10-04 09:12, sms wrote:
On 9/30/2017 7:35 AM, Joerg wrote:

snip

There can only be one reason. The Chinese are subsidizing it and the
government is paying for a large chunk of operatingh the China Post
aircraft or any hired air transport.

Wrong. The U.S. is subsidizing it. Almost all of the cost in postal
services is in the delivery to individual addresses.


So how does China Post operate its aircraft? On three gallons of
electrolyte mix? Somehow they manage to arrive here.


China Post operate airplanes?



They do.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...irlines-cf-cyz


http://www.aircargonews.net/news/air...-contract.html



And the Boeing 747 you see on the picture flies on three gallons of
electrolyte mix from Shenzhen to Oakland or how do they manage sub-$1
postage fes for large packages?


Probably because it carried 154 tons of cargo.
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  #122  
Old October 11th 17, 12:19 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Joerg[_2_]
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On 2017-10-05 17:38, wrote:
On Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 4:55:00 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-10-04 17:42, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 10:29:08 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-10-04 09:12, sms wrote:
On 9/30/2017 7:35 AM, Joerg wrote:

snip

There can only be one reason. The Chinese are subsidizing
it and the government is paying for a large chunk of
operatingh the China Post aircraft or any hired air
transport.

Wrong. The U.S. is subsidizing it. Almost all of the cost in
postal services is in the delivery to individual addresses.


So how does China Post operate its aircraft? On three gallons
of electrolyte mix? Somehow they manage to arrive here.

China Post operate airplanes?



They do.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...irlines-cf-cyz




http://www.aircargonews.net/news/air...-contract.html


And the Boeing 747 you see on the picture flies on three gallons
of electrolyte mix from Shenzhen to Oakland or how do they manage
sub-$1 postage fes for large packages?


Not to mention that they are paying USPS MORE to deliver said
packages than they charge their own customers to send it here.


Just imagine: Two long-handled and angled 1.5" paint brushes, making for
a somewhat bluky package, sent airmail from Hong Kong to here in
California, arrived within a week, grand total including shipping was $2.96.

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  #123  
Old October 11th 17, 12:24 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Joerg[_2_]
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On 2017-10-05 20:08, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 16:55:07 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-10-04 17:42, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 10:29:08 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-10-04 09:12, sms wrote:
On 9/30/2017 7:35 AM, Joerg wrote:

snip

There can only be one reason. The Chinese are subsidizing it and the
government is paying for a large chunk of operatingh the China Post
aircraft or any hired air transport.

Wrong. The U.S. is subsidizing it. Almost all of the cost in postal
services is in the delivery to individual addresses.


So how does China Post operate its aircraft? On three gallons of
electrolyte mix? Somehow they manage to arrive here.

China Post operate airplanes?



They do.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...irlines-cf-cyz


http://www.aircargonews.net/news/air...-contract.html



And the Boeing 747 you see on the picture flies on three gallons of
electrolyte mix from Shenzhen to Oakland or how do they manage sub-$1
postage fes for large packages?


Probably because it carried 154 tons of cargo.



Nope. The actual cost per kilogram over that distance is normally above
$4. It simply does not compute.

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http://www.analogconsultants.com/
  #124  
Old October 11th 17, 12:59 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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On 10/10/2017 6:24 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-10-05 20:08, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 16:55:07 -0700, Joerg

wrote:

On 2017-10-04 17:42, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 10:29:08 -0700, Joerg

wrote:

On 2017-10-04 09:12, sms wrote:
On 9/30/2017 7:35 AM, Joerg wrote:

snip

There can only be one reason. The Chinese are
subsidizing it and the
government is paying for a large chunk of operatingh
the China Post
aircraft or any hired air transport.

Wrong. The U.S. is subsidizing it. Almost all of the
cost in postal
services is in the delivery to individual addresses.


So how does China Post operate its aircraft? On three
gallons of
electrolyte mix? Somehow they manage to arrive here.

China Post operate airplanes?


They do.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...irlines-cf-cyz



http://www.aircargonews.net/news/air...-contract.html



And the Boeing 747 you see on the picture flies on three
gallons of
electrolyte mix from Shenzhen to Oakland or how do they
manage sub-$1
postage fes for large packages?


Probably because it carried 154 tons of cargo.



Nope. The actual cost per kilogram over that distance is
normally above $4. It simply does not compute.


in fairness, marginal freight such as mail goes on a 'space
available' basis. If the plane is full it goes in the next
empty ULD slot, sorta like flying standby, at a lower rate.

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  #125  
Old October 11th 17, 03:15 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 4:59:05 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/10/2017 6:24 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-10-05 20:08, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 16:55:07 -0700, Joerg

wrote:

On 2017-10-04 17:42, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 10:29:08 -0700, Joerg

wrote:

On 2017-10-04 09:12, sms wrote:
On 9/30/2017 7:35 AM, Joerg wrote:

snip

There can only be one reason. The Chinese are
subsidizing it and the
government is paying for a large chunk of operatingh
the China Post
aircraft or any hired air transport.

Wrong. The U.S. is subsidizing it. Almost all of the
cost in postal
services is in the delivery to individual addresses.


So how does China Post operate its aircraft? On three
gallons of
electrolyte mix? Somehow they manage to arrive here.

China Post operate airplanes?


They do.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...irlines-cf-cyz



http://www.aircargonews.net/news/air...-contract.html



And the Boeing 747 you see on the picture flies on three
gallons of
electrolyte mix from Shenzhen to Oakland or how do they
manage sub-$1
postage fes for large packages?

Probably because it carried 154 tons of cargo.



Nope. The actual cost per kilogram over that distance is
normally above $4. It simply does not compute.


in fairness, marginal freight such as mail goes on a 'space
available' basis. If the plane is full it goes in the next
empty ULD slot, sorta like flying standby, at a lower rate.


While that is true in many cases the entire luggage area is filled with boxes of mail. This was part of the fire hazard I talked about when that plane disappeared into nowhere.

The battery exploded setting a fire. This fire was directly beneath the electronics wiring for the entire aircraft. It is also directly adjacent to the luggage compartment. The fire beneath the pilots compartment would have overcome the pilots almost immediately. Since the pilots compartment is almost unbreakable and can only be opened from inside so-long aircraft. The fires in the luggage compartment would have dumped the smoke directly into the passenger area overcoming them in very short order.

I understand that someone took me serious about using the ship's batteries as a power source and they now use ground power units as they should have from the beginning.
 




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